Carr and Tressel chillin' in Cleveland
http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp11/story/_/id/6865962/jim-tressel-fo…
Warning: The word "tragedy" is included in a quote here.
August 16th, 2011 at 5:19 PM ^
Raddy on Wtka is talking about this right now. I wish Loyd had used a different word. But can't fault him to much Loyd isn't going to attack Tressel we all know that.
August 16th, 2011 at 5:17 PM ^
Tragedy is not the same as "tragic hero."
August 16th, 2011 at 5:23 PM ^
No it's not the same, but usually a tragedy desribes the struggles of a tragic hero. Wish he would've said something different, but oh well.
August 16th, 2011 at 5:48 PM ^
a stage falling at the Indiana state fair was not a tragedy? A tragedy, only in its latin routes, describes the struggles of a tragic hero. Dantonio really misused this word, lets not misuse it more.
August 16th, 2011 at 7:45 PM ^
Roots.
Just FYI, not to be a dick or anything.
August 16th, 2011 at 5:27 PM ^
I personally don't think it's a big deal to say either thing. Maybe they as coaches have a different perspective than fans. But given the freakout of some people over Dantonio's comment, Carr's is similar enough to be noteworthy to them.
August 16th, 2011 at 5:18 PM ^
August 16th, 2011 at 9:28 PM ^
Tremendously tragic?
August 16th, 2011 at 5:19 PM ^
These players already get paid!
August 16th, 2011 at 5:29 PM ^
I'd be stunned if Tressel weren't on an NFL sideline at some point next year. Maybe just a scout in Cleveland, like John Cooper pretended to be in Cincy.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:02 PM ^
You know football season is getting close when Brodie is back.
August 16th, 2011 at 5:32 PM ^
After reading countless threads that end up with the conclusion that more blame is to be allocated to Carr than RR for RR's failures, I can only imagine what that photo led some to conclude.
August 16th, 2011 at 5:50 PM ^
Wow so are you concluding that people will think Carr and Tressel conspired together for Michigan to lose to OSU? Im not sure how your mind makes that jump.
August 16th, 2011 at 5:47 PM ^
I'm still waiting for Carr to punch Tressel in the face for the bomb-sniffing dogs incident.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:02 PM ^
Carr is a man of great integrity. Although Carr suffered from Tressel's actions at Ohio State, he's not one to hold grudges and would be the first to say that football games are not amongst the more important things in life. I actually see this as a testament to his character.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:29 PM ^
How Carr suffered from Tressel's actions is 100% unquantifiable and 100% unknowable. It's really weak, man.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:02 PM ^
August 16th, 2011 at 7:07 PM ^
He does feel bad for Tressel.
Unlike many folks on this board most people who know and/or have worked with or competed against Tressel admire him and feel bad that he made an admittedly major mistake.
He was an exceptionally successful coach -- as we know all too well -- a brilliant strategist and master motivator. It says something when Carr and Hoke both say Tressel is a good man. The guy screwed up and paid a terrible price: The loss of the job he loved. That fact is good for Michigan football and the fan base should be satisfied with that fact instead of trying to rationalize how he somehow cheated Michigan into a 1-9 record against him.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:41 PM ^
Tressel was a brilliant strategist against US.
It was a maddening pattern. Ask OSU fans about this - he more or less rested on his talent against every opponent with vanilla gameplans (leading to some frustrating losses for them, especially in the Pryor era) but he had great curveballs in The Game. We were so outschemed from 2004-06 it was gross.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:10 PM ^
lloyd was going to say "tremendous!" and then caught himself after the first part got out and substituted the only word he could think of, which was "tragic."
August 16th, 2011 at 6:10 PM ^
Maybe it was intentional by Coach Carr to get MD's back. Remember in 07 when it was rumored he told Dantonio after the win in EL that it was his last UM-MSU game? They might be closer than we'd like to admit.
August 16th, 2011 at 6:55 PM ^
does funny things to the mind
August 16th, 2011 at 7:27 PM ^
it appears that OSU got custody of the sweater vests.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:30 PM ^
I could not imagine Hoke all smiles hanging with Jim Tressel if he was 1-6 against him. Very disappointing.
August 16th, 2011 at 9:35 PM ^
Um, you've seen that photo, right, of Bo and Woody having a laugh together....?
August 17th, 2011 at 12:37 AM ^
Sometimes rivals become the best of friends... mutual admiration and such.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:04 PM ^
Lloyd truly does not give a fuck, apparently. I always liked that about him.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:42 PM ^
On local news tonight in Columbus, the segment for this story was called "Tressel watches Browns practice." The film was entirely of Tressel talking to Lloyd Carr, but not once was Carr mentioned by the news reader. True story.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:57 PM ^
I couldn't help but want to yell "LLOYD!!!" in Ari Gold's voice when I heard about this...