BYU Accepts Invites to 2016 & 2018 Poinsettia Bowls
Obviously because they're independent and they need to be bowl eligible....but my stars, college football is broken.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/241958…
November 6th, 2013 at 8:14 PM ^
What??? How is that even possible? Lol. So i guess they dont like their chances at the National Championship game in the next 4-5 years, or even getting to a Traditional New Year bowl. Thats gotta suck for recruiting, if not for this agreement, you would atleast be able to sell Hope to these young guys coming in to BYU, with this deal you are basically saying "Yea We plan on being mediocre for the next 4-6 years and going to poinsetta bowls."
November 6th, 2013 at 9:47 PM ^
November 6th, 2013 at 8:23 PM ^
...how?
November 6th, 2013 at 8:26 PM ^
Poinsettia has an automatic tie-in with Army for 2013, and with the MWC through 2014, so this is how they roll. I wonder how often the television contract is re-negotiated? It could be a used as leverage to increase the pay out, and negotiate a more high-profile tie-in.
On the other side of the ledger, BYU really has to be hating that Utah is in the Pac-12, with its automatic tie-ins and revenue share, and it has to make these types of pre-commitments to secure a bowl spot. (But then, they do not have to split the payout with a conference.) In 2011, it went 9-3 with wins at Ole Miss and Oregon State and ended up in the Bell Helicopter Bowl.
November 6th, 2013 at 8:27 PM ^
If that's allowed to happen, lets get dibs on the 2016 and 2018 MNC right now.
November 6th, 2013 at 8:32 PM ^
they should try and team up up with San Diego St. and try to joing the Pac 12 or Big 12 or something like that.
SDSU should be attractive to the Big 12 especially cause then they can get SoCal market for TV and recruiting.
November 6th, 2013 at 8:47 PM ^
They'll never join the Pac-12; a couple of the Pac-12 schools (Cal comes to mind; I forget the other one) are explicity opposed to religious schools joining their league. Regardless of whether one supports that or opposes it, that's the case there
November 6th, 2013 at 9:39 PM ^
That seems like a fairly significant claim, sir. Do you have an article stating this?
November 6th, 2013 at 10:47 PM ^
this was the speculation during the conference expansion boom of a few years ago
it's also the reason Baylor was never involved in the Pac-16 talks
November 6th, 2013 at 9:18 PM ^
the Big 12's issue is that WVU is on an island. A team in San Diego does exactly nothing to help with that... if they expand, they'll grab either two ACC teams or Cincinnati+ to ease the burden some.
November 6th, 2013 at 8:35 PM ^
This is no different than Notre Dame or another independent like Navy arranging a bowl tie in
November 6th, 2013 at 8:45 PM ^
November 6th, 2013 at 8:58 PM ^
Utah and Colorado are both better cultural fits. Pac-12 markets itself as a "progressive" conference, on the cutting edge of science & etc. Berkeley, UCLA, Oregon would probably not be thrilled. Big 12 is a better fit for BYU, but I am not sure that provides the same economic incentive.
November 6th, 2013 at 9:03 PM ^
November 6th, 2013 at 11:46 PM ^
November 7th, 2013 at 8:59 AM ^
Until recently the NCAA had a rule, known as the BYU rule, prohibiting its championships from being held on Sundays. Any conference adding BYU is going to have to adopt that policy. Not only that, they are put in the position to advocate the NCAA readopt the rule. Adding BYU would be a major pain in the ass for us. The Big Ten holds its championships for nearly every sport but football on Sundays. Why would any major conference ever add them over any reasonable candidate?
November 6th, 2013 at 9:42 PM ^
Utah's basketball program has been much more successful than BYU's over the past 20+ years.
BYU would bring a larger TV audience, but we all know the reason the Pac 10 passed on them - anti-mormonism.
November 6th, 2013 at 11:44 PM ^
November 7th, 2013 at 6:36 AM ^
All this talk about "why isn't BYU in a conference" sort of ignores the glaringly obvious fact that if BYU wanted to be in one, they'd still be in one.
November 6th, 2013 at 8:48 PM ^
According to a few other stories, BYU was supposed to be in the 2015 Poinsettia Bowl, but that bowl decided it wanted a Mountain West team and Army, assuming Army is eligible that year. The idea supposedly is that they will play a MWC team in both of those years, per Sports Illustrated.
November 6th, 2013 at 8:57 PM ^
Dave Brandon needs to get on the Rose Bowl horn. We would pack that place even if we were the 5th place team in the conference.
November 6th, 2013 at 9:06 PM ^
November 6th, 2013 at 9:40 PM ^
#lolwut
November 6th, 2013 at 10:39 PM ^
"BYU accepts their fate as a mediocre team for the foreseeable future"
November 6th, 2013 at 11:51 PM ^
November 7th, 2013 at 1:05 AM ^
no, they just chose not to accept a bid in advance for those years
I have no idea why everyone finds this weird, Army and Navy have done this with the Poinsettia Bowl for years now
November 7th, 2013 at 6:38 AM ^
Not only that but conferences are lining up their bowl tie-ins this many years in advance too. BYU just happens to be a conference of one. This is their tie-in. If they don't get on the train, they're going to get to 2016 and find there isn't room anywhere for the independent.