BC Coach Jeff Hafley taking Packers DC job

Submitted by jimmyshi03 on January 31st, 2024 at 6:26 PM

Per ESPN’s Ohio State beat writer.

Was a former OSU DC before doing an adequate job at BC (had been on hot seat before the year).

Cycle doesn’t stop. Feels like a Brian Hartline job (will repeat until he leaves).

MichiganFootball

January 31st, 2024 at 6:31 PM ^

Chip Kelly is also trying to get an NFL OC job reportedly as well.

There’s definitely a number of coaches who are tired of having to deal with NIL and the transfer portal and having to constantly rerecruit their roster.  And it feels like we still have a ways to go till we settle into a better equilibrium there.

Maybe Harbaugh can do us a solid and hire Hartline as the receivers coach with the Chargers.

St Joe Blues

February 1st, 2024 at 8:35 AM ^

So what you're saying is the best time to fire a coach is after game 8. The 30-day window starts for weeks 9-12, the season ends, hire a new coach who gets the kids excited to stay. Survive the 30-day portal because games are being played, then survive the normal portal due to excitement with the new coach.

JonnyHintz

February 1st, 2024 at 2:54 PM ^

Excitement due to the new coach isn’t necessarily going to get guys to stay. Bama was still having guys enter the portal after DeBoer took the job there. 
 

But the bigger idea is to have your new coach in place by the beginning of December so HE can raid the portal to fill out his roster. It’s more about that than it is trying to con your roster into staying. If guys enter the portal now, you can’t really replace them until the post-spring window. 

NittanyFan

January 31st, 2024 at 8:55 PM ^

There were all kinds of media reports following their November 11 17-7 home loss to Arizona State that he was going to get fired.

But then it never happened.  They beat USC the next week.  They had an absolutely horrible 4-score (!!!) home (!!!) loss to Cal (!!!) the week after that, but I guess the USC win bought him a LOT of good will.

Kevin14

January 31st, 2024 at 9:17 PM ^

Why is that? I remember the report he was going to get fired toward the end of the season.  As an outsider, I was pretty surprised by that. The program was in the gutter when he took over and he's been solid the last three seasons.  He's had 8, 9, and 8 wins.  The program has had three 10-win seasons since 2000.  What are expectations there?

 

Blue@LSU

January 31st, 2024 at 6:32 PM ^

I don't know why, but BC was a school I always liked to root for since I was a kid. Hopefully they get someone to at least make them competitive in the ACC.

RobM_24

January 31st, 2024 at 6:35 PM ^

They had interviewed Orr (one of the Ravens defensive coaches). I've lost count on remaining "Ravens style" defensive coaches left. Obviously Minter and MacDonald have been hired, the Ravens will need to promote someone (Orr?) ... does that leave us anyone to target? 

MichiganiaMan

January 31st, 2024 at 6:57 PM ^

Selfishly, I’d been kinda clinging to the idea that Elston and Clink were both elite position coach lifers who liked being at Michigan and were willing to embrace the revolving door at DC. After all, it’s been quite some time since either was a DC and they both spent exactly one year as a DC when they had the role.
 

This offseason seems to have firmly placed those notions in doubt.

JonnyHintz

January 31st, 2024 at 8:00 PM ^

Jim Leonhard does run a 3-4, which is as close as you’ll get to what we run personnel wise. He does switch up alignment and go 2-4-5 or 3-3-5 as his nickel, similar to what we run on the majority of plays. Alignment wise, it’s about as close as you can get to the Ravens style defense without the Real McCoy. 
 

The biggest difference in my opinion would be personnel at the edge spots. If memory serves, Wisconsin typically had outside backers that were heavier and Michigan has preferred some athleticism at the spot, allowing for some positional versatility. 
 

From a playcalling standpoint, it’s going to be about maintaining the complex zones and simulated pressure turning into players dropping into coverage. Something that would be fairly easily incorporated into what Leonhard is accustomed to running. 

JonnyHintz

January 31st, 2024 at 8:16 PM ^

The Ravens D isnt really all that different from a generic 3-4 except for the fact that they really value positional versatility. Edge rushers who are linebackers or defensive ends. Rush the passer, set the edge, or drop into coverage. 

Michigan’s defense for example is either a 3-4 or a 5-2, depending on how you want to classify the edge rushers. But because it’s the 2020s and virtually everyone runs a spread, we’re nearly always in nickel. Which means dropping a DT for a nickel corner, and lining up in a 2-4-5 or a 4-2-5, again depending on how you want to classify the edge rushers. 
 

I don’t know enough about Aranda or Leonhard’s defenses to really make a comment on their man/zone preferences or their blitz setups and make that comparison, but it’s similar enough that Leonhard would be walking into a situation where he has the personnel to run his scheme and we have the staff (knock on wood) that can incorporate some of the concepts we’ve been using the past three years. It’s a seamless transition and you gain a DC with multiple years experience and top 10 defenses. 

wetnoodle

January 31st, 2024 at 8:22 PM ^

Thanks for the breakdown/info...sounds like it would be a pretty good match then.  I know some want to stay in house but sometimes good to go outside a little to get a different perspective too

Edit:And just to add might be best to have someone with actual DC/play calling experience as well since have a 1st time true HC

JonnyHintz

January 31st, 2024 at 9:22 PM ^

That’s why my preference was Leonhard. Elston has experience in a 3-4 defense from his time at Notre Dame, as well as knowledge of our system from being on staff here the last two years. Paired with Clinkscale it could work out, but the lack of playcalling experience between the two with a rookie head coach would be concerning.
 

Especially with Moore’s background being on offense. Moore would be suited to help a first time offensive coordinator, but a rookie DC will be stuck learning on the fly by themselves. 

m1817

January 31st, 2024 at 8:51 PM ^

The Ravens have four defensive assistant coaches that are being interviewed for defensive coordinator positions.

Assistant head coach and defensive line coach Anthony Weaver, defensive backs coach Dennard Wilson, inside linebackers coach Zachary Orr and defensive pass game coordinator Chris Hewitt are all candidates after interviewing for defensive coordinator positions with other NFL teams this offseason.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39429973/sources-seahawks-hire-ravens-dc-mike-macdonald-coach

Perkis-Size Me

January 31st, 2024 at 6:39 PM ^

Probably a smart move for him. BC is going to become more and more irrelevant as the ACC moves closer to the end of that GoR deal it has. BC, from a football perspective, is probably the least attractive job in the ACC. You’re in a city where really no one cares for college sports (at least not local college sports), and when this GoR runs out, BC is not going to find that good a dance partner that’ll be willing to take them. Honestly if you’re a BC student athlete and you’re not a hockey player, no one cares who you are. 

If I’m Hafley I get out now while I can. That job becomes much less attractive by the year. 

jimmyshi03

January 31st, 2024 at 6:43 PM ^

They had something going when O'Brien was there, essentially acting like B1G program grabbing and developing linemen from Ohio and playing a pretty pro-style offense. Then they made one of the worst firings (firing Jeff Jagodzinski for interviewing for the open Jets job) in recent memory and quickly became irrelevant. 

crg

January 31st, 2024 at 7:20 PM ^

Honestly, I love that we won it all this year but hate what this is all becoming.  Anyone trying to claim that it will still be "college" sports going forward is being naive, disingenuous or simply in denial.

I know many here (and around the college sport fanbase) don't mind the pay-to-play, the free agency, the "ain't come to play school" character, and the rampant monetization of everything.  Personally... I'm nearing the point of checking out of the whole thing.  Growing up a Michigan fan, having that reinforced by my time as a student there, and retaining that connection after my career took me far from there is what has been keeping me from pulling that trigger.  Yet, if it is no longer the sport I fell in love with in my younger days... I don't know any longer.

Is anyone else struggling with this or am I just an old man yelling at clouds?

1WhoStayed

January 31st, 2024 at 7:29 PM ^

Is anyone else struggling with this or am I just an old man yelling at clouds?
 

Yes. And Yes! “Get Paid” is so tiresome. I know I’ll get negged for saying this, but players were compensated AND given a chance at the lottery as well. Graduating debt free is something most kids would love to experience. But that’s just “old school” talking!

maquih

January 31st, 2024 at 7:53 PM ^

Nobody says kids on academic scholarship can't get paid.  Some of them at the bschool or law school make a lot of money being summer associates that they only can get because they're elite students of the University of Michigan.  Why should football and basketball players be treated differently?

Students on full academic scholarship have absolutely no restrictions on transferring, why should students on athletic scholarships?

Bluesince89

January 31st, 2024 at 7:55 PM ^

Yes. You've been sold a bunch of BS and bought it hook, line, and sinker. I encourage you to read James Duderstadt's book on college athletics. He does a great job outlining how football and basketball have always been cash cows and not really for the benefit of the student-athlete. Hell, sometimes, they weren't even students.