Is anyone else worried about losing more recruits?
Since Campbell and Newsome have left, I find myself increasingly worried that some of our top recruits will have a change of heart. Especially if this season gets even uglier (which it sure could), and this starts looking like a 24 month project instead of a 1 year project, I worry if some recruits will want to come to a school where morale is lowest its been for a really long time. To be honest, i never considered this year to be a rebuilding year, but now that its is pretty evident that this is the case, I really wonder about our recruits...
Does anyone else feel this way?
September 15th, 2008 at 10:54 AM ^
September 15th, 2008 at 11:00 AM ^
If a kid really wants to play for RR, he'll have watched the games. If he's watched the games, he'll see what's going on: improvement and good coaching.
If he can't see that, then maybe it's not the type of player RR would have wanted. At worst, he would see that there is an opportunity to start if he can beat anyone on the current roster. That is porved by the amount of freshmen actually playing.
Safeties should be chomping at the bit to get to UM.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:03 AM ^
I don't worry about this very much at all. The recruits know it's a bit of a rebuilding project. But they also saw what Rodriguez did at WVU. A lot of recruits want a chance to play early, and I'm sure they see that at Michigan. Rodriguez plays the guys who give him the best chance to win - thus Minor, Brown, and Grady on the bench watching a couple freshmen dominate the carries. Martin is getting playing time over Jason Kates, etc. That has a lot of appeal to an 18-year-old kid who wants to be the next big star.
By the way, Newsome decommitted because he wants to play QB in the NFL. He doesn't want to be the next Pat White or Michael Robinson and have to face a position change in 4 years. I thought it was a strange fit from the time he committed, so I wasn't surprised at all when he decommitted. If I were him, I'd do the same thing.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:04 AM ^
Recruits look at a team in a number of ways. Some view it as I get to play ASAP. Others take down years negatively. The over riding factor is the ability of the head coach and staff to recruit in general.
This season is only 3 games old. The offense is making a lot of progress. All is not lost.
And this was ALWAYS going to be a rebuilding year. losing five offensive starters to the draft and four other starters to graduation and quitting defines rebuilding.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:15 AM ^
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September 15th, 2008 at 12:34 PM ^
1) you can't judge a young offense after 3 games
2) Threet looked pretty good passing against ND
3) A taller faster true WR like McNeil will play day 1, and will get a lot of balls thrown his way because he is not a 5'8" small quick slot guy
4) Forcier and Beaver are both good QBs (Forcier is really accurate, and the Beav looked great on Thursday).
September 15th, 2008 at 2:06 PM ^
The offensive GAMEPLAN looked good, even if the offense did not execute well.
Also, ask Stonum how the whole "prototypical WR" thing is working out for him so far. He's played every game and gotten some looks as a true freshman. McNeal is in the same mold. If you've got an awesome WR, you use him. I trust RR on this.
September 15th, 2008 at 11:18 AM ^
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September 15th, 2008 at 12:25 PM ^
for the NCAA or Michigan is the question. If his grades or credits did not meet Michigan requirements than applaud the coaches/AD/admissions for not lowering their standards for an athlete no matter how talented he is.
Also a about future recruits. No matter what Michigan's record is this year recruiting will still flurish and becuase of the atmosphere the coaches bring and the fact that this is still Michigan. Recruits know that this will be a one maybe two year bump in the road because each week the team gets better.
September 15th, 2008 at 12:17 PM ^
Yeah, cuz you know, ND's recruits fled for the hills after a 3-9 season. Oh wait, the only one who decomitted was Omar Hunter, who left for Florida due to negative recruiting by Urban Meyer. Our offense is improving every week and we had 200+ yards of passing. McNeal won't be going anywhere but Michigan. Get a grip people; this season is going to show who is a loyal Michigan fan and who is a fair-weather fan.
September 15th, 2008 at 4:33 PM ^
I agree wih most of that. but recruits are not always 'fans' of michigan like we are. obviously if WE were being recruited by michigan we'd go. but they don't see it the same way. most the guys i know on the team aren't nearly the 'fan' of michigan that we are. to be honest, most of them could care less.
i have said in almost all of my posts that i think we will do better and i'm not worried about things. we are rebuilding and will be great again. however, i still think it is fair to say we could lose a few recruits. and i understand ND did that with a 3-9 season but, and i hate to say this, but i don't think we have the same top level pull in terms of recruiting that ND has currently. Charlie Weis can still get off on his whole 'i'm an NFL guy and i can get you there'. but yes, i agree in the long-run we will be fine.
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September 16th, 2008 at 5:29 PM ^
Plus, the fan support in LA isn't near what it is in the Midwest. USC has been winning BIG for 5 years now and they still don't sell out the Coliseum.
This is patently false. They sell out the Coliseum and have a terrific fanbase, not to mention the tradition and all that. USC can, and does, get any kid they want. And besides, what do sell-outs mean to recruits? On the list of wants from a kid, sell-outs might be last.
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September 15th, 2008 at 1:57 PM ^
There should be very little worry in our recruiting, the Barwis factor alone will bring in the players we want. On that point do we really want the kids who are afraid of having to earn their rep?
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September 17th, 2008 at 11:59 AM ^
I'm not attacking you personally kgh, but this type of thinking is ignorant and common on this board and among Michigan and Big Ten fans in general. USC is, hands down, the best program in the country - they have the best, most fun coach; campus is gorgeous and great; they are the only 'pro' team in town, so they are treated like one; players are stars in Hollywood; the song girls...I could go on and on. And, oh yeah, they've won a shit-ton of Rose Bowls.
Michigan's sell-out streak is very commendable, but like the 'all time winning percentage' or 'all-time wins' records, they aren't as important as U-M fans make them out to be. Sure, kids are lured by traditions in many cases, but they aren't as important as we fans take them. I was bothered b/c Michigan was losing recruits before - and I'm a huge Lloyd Carr guy - because we were banking too much on the past. Rich Rod and his offense, Barwis, etc etc is FUN. More kids are looking at Michigan than ever before, many the type of player we always saw and said 'why can't we have a guy like that?' The future's bright.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:53 AM ^
I'm not attacking you, but you're ignorant.
KGH stated a fact, that USC does not sell out their home games unless they are marquee matchups despite the last 6 or so years of unparalleled success that they've had. You attacked KGH and called her a liar. Others pointed out that what KGH said was true and yet she is ignorant. Probably everyone on here agrees that USC has more working for it than any other school out there, but to criticize and tell someone they are wrong when you are in fact wrong, is the same type of ignorant behavior that you are critiquing.