Another QB for 2010

Submitted by McFarlin on
Okay we have Gardner. Now who else should we try to get? We NEED 1 more qb for sure because Gardner is a little raw and Robinson is still an experiment and Sheridan is well....Sheridan. I think we might be able to get Christian Green. But that is a long shot. http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=87825&Sport=1 We NEED another QB. I am still not very convinced that Robinson or Gardner will pan out. Hopefully.

helloheisman.com

April 25th, 2009 at 9:02 PM ^

Why do we NEED another QB? We have Tate, Devin, and Denard now. When have we ever had the QB position 3 deep with talent? Not under Lloyd, and QB was never really an issue then, save for Navarre's first season. In fact, when does any program ever have more than 3 top guys competing for QB?

Maize and Blue…

April 26th, 2009 at 8:38 AM ^

What are you basing this on? The fact that he has blinding speed. Have you watched his tape or seen him play? Denard's probably ahead of Pat White at this point in his career as a passer, but he is definitely not Tate. The threat of him taking off will make defenders have to make quick decisions on staying in coverage or going after the QB. This will make the passing windows a little bigger. We have the kid from Pioneer coming in as a walk on, but still need another QB commit.

Magnus

April 26th, 2009 at 12:24 PM ^

Completion percentage is not the best way to determine a high school kid's ability. You don't know the talent level of his receivers, his offensive line's protection ability, or what kind of plays his coach called (were they low-percentage deep balls or high-percentage short throws?).

therealtruth

April 26th, 2009 at 10:49 AM ^

Look, in all fairness (and I'm not saying Robinson can't be a great QB): -If the "scouts" you are touting thought Robinson had a huge potential as a QB, he would have been rated as a QB, not an ATH. If it was widely agreed upon that he would be a great QB, then Florida wouldn't have offered him as a CB. -He completed less than half his passes in his high school career.

Maize and Blue…

April 26th, 2009 at 2:44 PM ^

Yes I realize he completed less then 50% of completion (kind of like U of M QBs last year), but did average 18 YPC and his passing yardage was down from the year before. I'm just referring to fact that everyone thinks run, run, run yet he had less than 500 yards rushing and lead his team to the state semis. Junior year had over 1900 yards passing. Gardner did complete over 50% but for roughly the same amount of yards and he had a D1 prospect at WR. I think Gardner will be a much better QB, but Pat White wasn't a great passing QB and the WVU offense was a juggernaut.

estarr01

April 25th, 2009 at 10:50 PM ^

In Lloyd's system we could get away with 3 QB's because they were less prone to leave the pocket and take hits in the open field. That's probably why RR needs more quality QB's. I believe we are still going to get a 2nd QB in this class, but it's still early to get worried about it. From everything I've read RR is still trying to get that second option and at this point we look goof for a couple of prospects, Jones and Munchie.

therealtruth

April 26th, 2009 at 8:47 AM ^

Lloyd may not have carried 3 QB's, but they were spread over a few classes, and normally at least one of them was somewhat established, in that they had played before, or Lloyd had seen enough of them in practice to be comfortable with them. Michigan doesn't have a single viable QB who has taken a single snap in college, so, really, RR doesn't have a wonderful idea of what he has. Get it?

jmblue

April 26th, 2009 at 12:45 PM ^

When have we ever had the QB position 3 deep with talent? Not under Lloyd. How are you defining "talent"? If "talent" means "guys on scholarship," we were always three-deep or more under Carr. Here's a breakdown of scholarship QBs under Lloyd: 1995 - Brian Griese, Scott Driesbach, Tom Brady, DiAllo Johnson, Jason Carr 1996 - Griese, Driesbach, Brady, Jason Kapsner 1997 - Griese, Driesbach, Brady, Kapsner 1998 - Brady, Drew Henson, Driesbach, Kapsner 1999 - Brady, Henson, Kapsner, John Navarre, Andy Mignery 2000 - Henson, Navarre, Jermaine Gonzales 2001 - Navarre, Gonzales, Spencer Brinton 2002 - Navarre, Brinton, Matt Gutierrez 2003 - Navarre, Brinton, Gutierrez 2004 - Chad Henne, Gutierrez, Clayton Richard 2005 - Henne, Gutierrez, Richard, Jason Forcier 2006 - Henne, Forcier, David Cone 2007 - Henne, Ryan Mallett, Cone All of these guys were recruited QBs and with few exceptions (maybe Mignery, Cone and Carr) were all highly-regarded. Only with the benefit of hindsight can we say that some weren't talented. It's possible that some of the QBs we currently have, or will have, won't end up being as good as we think, too. (Note as well that there was a fair amount of attrition.)

foreverbluemaize

April 25th, 2009 at 10:37 PM ^

the last article that I read about Munchie said that we are number 1 on his list. I think the kid will probably commit soon and then I figure there will be one 4 star we go after every year until D Rob and Tate gradguate. In answer to the question why we need so many QBs I think RR wants a lot of back ups because as a dual threat guy they are twice as likely to get hurt. I know the arguement that Pat White never got hurt but I think it still stands to reason that if they run and throw they are more likely to take a nasty hit than if they just throw.

Tater

April 25th, 2009 at 10:38 PM ^

The problem right now is that the QB position is so thin that players are expected to come in and be great as freshmen. The position really needs to have enough depth that a kid can come in and spend a year learining the offense and getting Barwisized before he is expected to be the Baby Jesus of QB. I won't be comfortable until there are at least three who have demonstrated that they can run the team, with one or two redshirts learning the offense. As well as Forcier is apparently turning out, we still don't know about DRob or about Gardner until they actually get to Ann Arbor. Really, right now, there are three known quantities on the team: Forcier, who looked great against the second and third string defense. Sheridan, who was terrible last year and needs to be "much-improved" to be of any help whatsoever. Cone, who looks a lot like Threet did last year (slow and not much arm), but against third and fourth string players. Anyone who is comfortable with that has a lot more faith than I do. And I would like to sell you some great land down here in Florida.......

therealtruth

April 26th, 2009 at 8:44 AM ^

Wait, so are you a troll, like you claimed a few days ago? Overall, though, I agree with your point - we need another QB for depth purposes. It's not neccesarily going to be a top-100 sort of guy, because of the existing talent we have, but we do need more numbers there. People, in general, need to realize that at leat half the recruits we pick up aren't going to pan out, in that, they're not going to become great college players. Tate Forcier and Devin Gardner are highly-rated players, but that's not a guarantee of anything, one or both may very well end up as busts. Scott Dreisbach, Jason Kapsner, Steven Threet, Matt Guttierez, and Clayton Richard were all highly rated QBs who, for one reason or another (injury, position change, transfer, pure bust) never panned out to do anything for Michigan. You need depth to combat that - the more QB's we have, the more likely we'll get one that can play.

victors2000

April 26th, 2009 at 11:47 AM ^

is more guys like Tate. Guys that regardless of size that can throw well, make good reads, and have a little speed to create a running threat. Maybe it's rare that a guy can be so composed and throw with such accuracy, after all Tate has had a qb tutor forever, but seeing the accuracy that Tate has- and I don't want to hear he was playing 2nd/3rd stringers, he has a marvelous touch- and what guys can do with the ball whether they are 'in space' or not, I would much rather recruit that kind of qb then these 'prototypical' big dual threat guys with speed that are raw at passing and will take a couple years to really establish their 'A' game.