Adam Shibley in the Portal
February 16th, 2021 at 2:55 PM ^
I wish the kid only the best and believe this was the right choice for him
February 16th, 2021 at 3:21 PM ^
Was he on scholarship?
February 16th, 2021 at 4:31 PM ^
He earned a scholy heading into the past season...possibly as a result of the other LBs who left?
February 16th, 2021 at 3:00 PM ^
Good luck to him. I’m eager to see how Kalel Mullings and Nikhai Hill Green perform. Hopefully the underclassmen are ready to step into a more prominent role
February 16th, 2021 at 3:22 PM ^
Will Mullings beat out Lance Dixon for the starting spot?
February 16th, 2021 at 3:36 PM ^
Will admissions even allow Dixon here? That’s the question
February 16th, 2021 at 7:14 PM ^
I have more faith in B1G transfers in than elsewhere
February 16th, 2021 at 7:31 PM ^
Isn’t Dixon to Tennessee to follow Banks the current smoke?
February 16th, 2021 at 7:36 PM ^
That would seem odd to me. He was looking to leave PSU when he thought Banks would still be there...so why would he follow a guy he was planning to leave? To be part of a dumpster fire? No challenge for playing time, but.....is it worth it?
February 16th, 2021 at 3:48 PM ^
They play different spots. Mullings is an ILB while Dixon’s strength is his speed on the outside. This was a big reason that people thought Dixon was playing out of position at PSU because PSU was playing him in the box
February 16th, 2021 at 3:01 PM ^
Good luck to him. Sounds like a nice guy.
Former walk-on linebacker Adam Shibley was named to the Wuerffel Trophy watch list. The Wuerffel Trophy goes to the college football player "who best combines exemplary community service with athletic and academic achievement."
February 16th, 2021 at 4:48 PM ^
Whoa, is this named after Danny Wuerffel? If so, I need to read up more about him.
February 16th, 2021 at 6:08 PM ^
Yes, Wuerffel was basically Tebow (but with outstanding grades) before Tebow. He quite famously declined all-American recognition from Playboy (which used to put out a very prominent pre-season all-America list) because he did not want to be associated with pornography.
Here's a wikipedia tidbit I did not know:
"[Wuerffel] is one of only two Heisman Trophy winners to also receive the Draddy Trophy, which is presented annually by the National Football Foundation and the College Football Hall of Fame to the nation's top football scholar-athlete."
February 16th, 2021 at 8:34 PM ^
Check out the details on gettuff.org the charitable organization he founded that includes a handful of other (mostly Michigan) players.
February 16th, 2021 at 3:04 PM ^
Best of luck. He got some quality snaps on film this year so hopefully he'll get some offers. Props to him for his off the field work as well.
February 16th, 2021 at 3:06 PM ^
He probably showed enough to get paid somewhere. Maybe MAC schools or a Big Ten school with a need for LBs.
Who knows, with a couple years with starter minutes somewhere, he gets a shot at the NFL.
Good luck to the young man. Can't wish him ill to pursue a dream like that.
February 16th, 2021 at 3:39 PM ^
I read "He probably showed enough to get paid somewhere" and thought, "Hmm... not sure I see him garnering significant interest in the SEC."
February 16th, 2021 at 3:07 PM ^
I wasn't expecting him to ship out
February 16th, 2021 at 3:19 PM ^
Shib out.
February 16th, 2021 at 3:24 PM ^
You guys would be great at a party. Would really get the adrenaline pumping.
February 16th, 2021 at 6:08 PM ^
I like parties
February 16th, 2021 at 3:30 PM ^
His shib has sailed.
February 16th, 2021 at 3:37 PM ^
That is number 14 in the portal....
February 16th, 2021 at 3:57 PM ^
Are you keeping up this count for a reason? As in are we counting up to a number you know will transfer? or is it more like that’s 14 transfers from this program which is more than other programs?
To put into context, 5 of those 14 are previous walk ons on the team. There’s a full list on Michigan’s 247 page
February 16th, 2021 at 4:15 PM ^
Losing players to transfer is just the reality of modern college football it seems. That being said, it would sure be nice to see Michigan have some quality players arrive inbound via the transfer portal.
February 16th, 2021 at 4:27 PM ^
We have gotten Willie Allen but your point is fair. Unfortunately this is one of those situations where Michigan’s strict rules on transfer are a major hindrance. Until the university starts allowing transfers more freely, Michigan will have problems attracting non grad transfer players to the program.
February 16th, 2021 at 4:46 PM ^
I've heard and read a couple of places that UM's issues with credits transferring really hurts non-grad transfers in.
February 16th, 2021 at 4:51 PM ^
Yeah, UM's turnover doesn't look particularly different than what we see at OU, PSU, Notre Dame, etc. And it makes sense with coach turnover you'd see even more guys look around. But UM losing a bunch of walk-ons doesn't strike me as weird or unexpected.
February 16th, 2021 at 7:00 PM ^
To put into context, 5 of those 14 are previous walk ons on the team
Yeah, I'm much more concerned with the number of 4 & 5-star transfers like Solomon, Vilian, Singleton, Anthony, etc. And, to be honest I don't really care about guys transferring after their 3rd year because that means they aren't starters and were likely mis-IDed as recruits. It's the Hudson types that you hate to see go who had a role and left because he was mad at the coaches versus a walk on or a guy going into his junior year that still hasn't cracked the 2-deep. But, certainly when you turn over your entire defensive staff minus the line coach, chances are some of the guys going to leave now that they no longer fit into the scheme. And, that's in addition to normal attrition of 3rd and 4th year guys looking for PT. That being said it would be nice to see the sort of devotion it's players get at OSU who seem content to wait until their 4th and 5th years to play. But, winning conference titles and getting to playoff and NC games certainly helps I'm sure.
February 16th, 2021 at 7:39 PM ^
Charbonet and Carpenter hurt. That looks like a lot of linebackers. Holding onto Jennings would’ve been nice he’d be a great Mike in the presumptive system to be installed.
February 17th, 2021 at 8:55 AM ^
Charbonet and Carpenter hurt.
Carpenter for sure. I can only assume that the result of losing Warriner. But, it was needed to make room for Hart & Bellomy. I would have loved to keep Warriner too. I'm not sure Charbonnet hurts. I mean it sucks to lose a high 4-star. I would have preferred it be mostly Haskins & Charbonnet last year and let Corum RS, but they obviously believed he had a role. But, the reality is Haskins was more productive than Charbonnet and they are the same year of eligibility so unless Haskins leaves for the NFL he's going to be stuck behind him his whole career. Add to that Edwards coming in next year and Charbonnet is just unfortunate, but doesn't really hurt. We are deep at RB.
Holding onto Jennings would’ve been nice he’d be a great Mike in the presumptive system to be installed.
To me the more disappointing thing is our highest rated guys are not our most productive players. Compare Gary to Winovich. Gary was a much higher rated recruit, but Winivich was much more productive. Same with DPJ vs Collins & Bell. Same with Charbonnet vs Haskins. Same with Paye vs Vilain. Same with Bush, Uche, Hudson, & Glasgow vs Anthony, Singleton, & Ross. Same with Gray vs Sims & Perry. Same with Vastardis, Spanellis, Carpenter & Honingford vs Jones, Rumler, Hall, etc. I don't know why this trend keeps happening over and over. But, if you look at teams like OSU, Clemson, & Bama their best players are their highest rated recruits. Our highest rated recruits often don't pan out and that is a problem. If all these guys played supporting roles and were still productive, but DPJ, Gary, Charbonnet, Vilain, Sims, Perry, etc. all played like top 200 recruits and were even more productive than their supporting guys UM be an 11-12 win team. We still wouldn't be better than OSU, but we'd pretty much dominate the rest of the B1G of whom we are significantly more talented than. We need our highest rated recruits to be our best players the way Chase Young, Wyatt Davis, Josh Myers, JK Dobbins, Jeff Okaduh, & Justin Fields were for OSU. That needs to be our DPJ, Aubrey Solomon, Drew Singleton, Jordan Anthony, Luiji Vilain, Chuck Filiaga, Ambry Thomas, & Dylan McCaffrey. But, we all know how their 2017 class turned out vs ours :/
February 17th, 2021 at 9:19 AM ^
Over the last few years, Michigan certainly hasn’t been more talented than PSU or Wisconsin. On average, they’ve probably been less talented.
February 18th, 2021 at 7:44 AM ^
Over the last few years, Michigan certainly hasn’t been more talented than PSU or Wisconsin. On average, they’ve probably been less talented.
In the 6 classes that JH has been at UM, he's had a higher ranked class than Franklin 5 out of 6 years and every class has been way higher than Wiscy's.
2016
- UM - #8
- PSU - #20
- Wiscy - #35
2017
- UM - #5
- PSU - #15
- Wiscy - #35
2018
- UM - #22
- PSU - #6
- Wiscy - #46
2019
- UM - #8
- PSU - #12
- Wiscy - #29
2020
- UM - #14
- PSU - #15
- Wiscy - #26
2021
- UM - #10
- PSU - #15
- Wiscy - #21
Average
- UM - #11.2
- PSU - #13.8
- Wiscy - #32
February 16th, 2021 at 5:26 PM ^
This isn't your grandpas transfer portal anymore! It's a sign of the times! It's a watered down second recruiting period!
February 16th, 2021 at 5:32 PM ^
There were basically no seniors and everyone got an extra year of eligibility. You have to clear the scholarships for the guys coming in somehow.
I'm guessing there are some hard conversations going on. Most of them are probably better for the exiting players than riding the bench for another year, or finding out later they don't have a spot.
Some of them might be culture or attitude issues. Obviously we didn't have a good culture last year. It appears that was mostly on the coaches, but maybe there was a player or two that just don't fit.
Addition by subtraction is a real thing on a Team. No offense to any of them.
February 16th, 2021 at 7:49 PM ^
In my experience locker room culture is tied to the players more so than coaches...Jimmy Johnson didn’t make those leaders and that culture all those years ago in Miami it was the Bennie Blades and Mike Irving’s getting interface of anyone on those teams that didn’t go 100.
February 17th, 2021 at 9:36 AM ^
I agree, and that is my experience as well. But it is quite obvious our coaches did not work together well last year. Coaches can create factionalism in the locker room. Assuming that problem is solved, the next job is to make sure the players left that all behind too. Some of them won't. Those guys have to go.
Just the way it is. Loyalty is good, but you can be too loyal, especially at that age.
February 19th, 2021 at 8:09 AM ^
In my experience locker room culture is tied to the players more so than coaches
I think it's both. The two work hand in hand. The coaches recruit the right players and cultivate leadership amongst their players, but at some point the players have to step up and lead. We've had some good leaders in the past under JH in 2016 with Peppers and 2018 with Bush & Winovich. I think Hutch can be that type of guy on defense. Unfortunately we haven't had many the past two seasons and have not had good leaders at QB, which we need. Then again Haskins was shit and OSU was still phenomenal with him. The players need to produce. Ideally your best players are also your leaders. This is how that model works best. It doesn't help when the guys who are supposed to be our most talented players like Patterson & DPJ aren't setting good examples. And, I think some other guys like Bredeson & Paye are just quiet guys. Hopefully Dax, Ross, Hinton, & Hutch can develop into leaders next year on defense and Haskins, Bell, Filiaga, & Hayes can do so on offense.
February 16th, 2021 at 6:33 PM ^
Not sure how many are aware of how special this Wolverine was off the field. I am disappointed that we couldn't find a place for someone that represents UM so well, but I give the coaches credit for obviously letting him know where he stood.
As the founder of the charitable organization, TUFF, I am proud to call him a Michigan Man.
https://www.ignatiuswildcats.com/news_article/show/1032483
Make sure to see Adam and Kwity in the video:
Godspeed and Go Blue!
February 16th, 2021 at 7:33 PM ^
It is what it is.
February 16th, 2021 at 7:45 PM ^
Not sure anyone can really make any meaning on that number this year with everyone getting an extra year of eligibility. Probably some dudes that may have had a chance to play next year are realizing time isnt opening up, or are having honest convos with the staff.
February 17th, 2021 at 9:54 AM ^
I hope we get some more DL and DBs through the portal.
February 16th, 2021 at 4:19 PM ^
Best of luck to him. Seems like a good kid.
February 16th, 2021 at 4:21 PM ^
Shibley? I barely knew ye.
Best wishes to the young man. It's good to see walk-ons developing to the point where they can go to another school and, hopefully, snag a scholarship.
February 16th, 2021 at 4:21 PM ^
ILB depth was a concern going into the season, it proved to be a concern during the season and Shibley certainly showed some promise. Now, ILB depth is a giant black hole.
February 16th, 2021 at 4:30 PM ^
2 linebackers in 2 weeks. What is Macdonald's problem!? /s
But seriously help me out with the change in philosophy of defense. Would these two not see as much time on the field?
February 16th, 2021 at 4:44 PM ^
Let's be real, if Don Brown wasn't here those guys may not have played last year.
February 16th, 2021 at 6:34 PM ^
Really, the only reason they saw the field in the first place was because we had a bunch of freshmen linebackers with more upside that weren’t ready to see the field yet. Add a year and those guys are expected to see a role, which pushes out guys like this.
February 16th, 2021 at 4:45 PM ^
Probably a good move. This could mean a move to 3-4 and he doesn't fit as well any longer. But, he was also a former walk-on so I don't necessarily ever expect those guys to turn into starters unless their name is Glasgow. I didn't expect to see him taking over for Ross or Barrett, then you've Solomon coming into year #3 and Mullings, Hill-Green, & Wheeler coming into year #2 and of course Colson although a true freshman is a top 100 guy and the #5OLB in the class. I'm not sure Hood is ready, but Colson is already 228 lbs on his recruiting profile, so he's probably well over that now.