3 Michigan OL's in PFF's Top 10 "Returning" BIG10 OL's
The guy at #1 was a walk on at Cincinnati who followed Luke Fickell to Wisconsin. He spent March to August of the 2020 lock down gaining 55 lbs in the weight room at his high school.
Great to see 3 Michigan players so highly rated. Here's to 2000 for Blake Corum this season!
#2 and #3 may not even be starters. #Depth!
Nugent 1000% starter
Maybe, but Don't tell Greg Crippen.
Love me some Corum, but with the 10 touches he'll get (per JMFH), split with Edwards) not sure the math works...even with 6 ypc he will be lucky to crack 1k. And I hope that's the case, because that means he won't have as much wear and tear. Heismans are awesome and very hard to come by, but not as great as national championships, we need the best to play in January.
And I get it was a tongue in cheek comment, very cool post and thanks for sharing! GO BLUE!!
Corum came back in part to win the Heisman or to have a shot at it. You reward that.
10 carries a game is crazy.
Hes our best player. Our identity is to run the football.
I think we take more shots with JJ but through PA.
Jim already said he wants more 50/50 than 60/40, and Edwards has really come on and is super dynamic out of the backfield.
Could it be more than 10? Sure, but anyone expecting 20 touches a game will be disappointed.
74 offensive plays a game gives 20 touches each Corum and Edwards as well as another 34 plays, passing et cetera. And we can go faster pace with JJ in his second year starting. Get that up to 80 plays and plenty of touches for everyone! Jmo
UM averaged 70 last year and 65 their last 3. And JH says they want 50/50 vs 60/40 last year. With 3-5 qb runs, that's 15 for Blake without a rb3.
This team has CoJo, Wilson, Loveland, and a great qb. It's balanced AF and doesn't need Corum to be doing more than 15.
I mean, all of these are nice ideals. But I don't think Corum's carries are going to be cut down in half from last year. He is a monster player. He has to get the ball more than last year, not less. I know there is the 50/50 talk. But I don't think that ideal is going to happen. He should be getting 25+ carries a game. And I don't thin JJ has improved that much where he will get that much more. It's just hard to believe a Jim Harbaugh team will change to be that.
Edwards is going to get some passes. So he and Corum may get an equal number of touches but with Corum getting more carries.
970 plays in 13 games is a 74.6 play per game avg in an offense that ran, ball control ie kept the clock running. In offense with closer to 50/50 balance from the 60/40 run/pass split. That play ratio can easily go to 80 plays per game with clock and pace or stay the same. Citing the last three games didn't mean a lot as how those games played out. Osu didn't run effectively until the 2nd half and the first half essentially was big plays, not long drives. Purdue was a bit different as well as the defense was on the field a lot of that game so t.o.p. at 55 snaps 20 less than avg was in part due to Purdue's offense working to control the ball and keep our offense off the field ie purdue had 84 offensive snaps to our 55. Or osu had 77 offensive snaps to our 60. Just how the games went vs their offenses.
Good insights, well thought out response. I don't know exactly how it will play out, and I have no insight beyond what I've read lately, but I it seems like Corum won't get enough carries to be in the Heisman running. If UM keeps winning, I don't care if it's 10 or 15 or 20. I feels to me like it would be closer to the 15 range.
The number of plays in general will be down this year with the game clock continuing to run after first down though.
And somehow with a run dominated offense 600 rushes to 370 passes we still avg'd 74.5 plays per game. With a more balanced approach it's reasonable to expect at least 70 plays per game and if we speed up the pace even a bit we can get more plays per game. Hence why i do believe the staff still wants about 75 plays per game to get enough snaps for the offensive weapons.
LMAO!!!! Umm, have you ever seen a Jim Harbaugh offense play offense?
Only 10 carries a game for Blake Corum would be a crying shame. It would be criminal.
Blake Corum is getting minimum 20 carries per game. Maybe a few less the first few games. The work load between Edwards and Corum will be evident in B10 play. I'm expecting about 20 carries per game each, and expect the hot hand to get the series.
Thanks for posting. Fun rankings.
But aren't rankings down to the tenths an indication of how innumerate we are? An innately subjective assessment doesn't get more specific by using tenths. Is there any plausible way that Huber is 1/10 better than Drake?
87.638% chance the tenths place is not a significant digit.
Thanks. That calms my concern.
Secretly, I was worried that there was then 87.637% it was a significant digit.
MATH!!!
Not a olineman in the big ten I'm taking over Zinter.
It's surprising he isn't higher, was last season when he was hurt for a little bit?
I think it was 2021 when he was playing with a club on his hand.
Also surprising not to see Olu Fashanu on this list. That might be more about PFF's wonky grading.
Little surprised Jones is that high. Great to have a top line again though
For what its worth Jones was our best at PP in the spring game...which was a pleasant surprise.
He was the only tackle that handled Stewart...who was able to get by others at time fairly easy.
Although, Ladarius Henderson and his 36 inch arms was not present.
Keep in mind PFF grading for OL was a mess last year. Our guys are very good and the line should roll again this year but I wouldn’t use PFF for proof of that, personally
The fact that anyone from MSU's sieve of an OL is on this list is proof of that.
Yep... I remember pretty much every post-game podcast Brian was complaining that PFF gave a better grade to MSU's OL than to Michigan's. So eat plenty of salt with these numbers...
LIke to see Jones get another chance at RT. Wasn't overly impressed when Barnhart was in there.
Wow.
Where does the Sherrone Moore O-line Era rank in Michigan history?
Michigan bred offensive lineman seemingly for decades. But I can't recall the backups grading out like this.
Zinter behind Jones makes very little sense. Keegan behind Duplain?
Jones was a sixth man when he returned last year and is fighting to start this year. It’s a good problem to have but I’m not sure this list has much credibility.
55lbs in 6 months. Can’t be the roids.
Bradley Cooper gained 40 pounds in 3 months for American Sniper. And he said he made it a point to do it all natural, without any steroids or growth hormone.
Gaining 40 lbs in 3 months is easy. It’s the type of weight that matters.
Yeah, I could do that, but my belly is already big enough!
What kind of weight did he gain?
Good weight...
Without cheating, the human male is generally only able to put on 6-8 pounds of actual lean muscle mass per year. You can certainly gain more weight than that, and I’m sure there are variances, but anybody who gained 30 pounds or, in that kids case, 50 pounds did not put on 50 pounds of muscle. If they did, it was absolutely positively the joy of chemistry.
I'm a fan of your posts in general but these are utter horseshit numbers pulled out of your ass without any qualifiers. If you revise to add "on an already heavily trained, top end athlete" then at least it's somewhat reasonable. Your average high schooler with decent genetics can put on 20-30 lbs of muscle in a year starting "untrained" - they have hormones that can match low end users. Half a pound of muscle per month as a max, otherwise you're on drugs? Come on, man.
i did qualify it with 'generally' and 'variances'. a high schooler who is still growing is a big qualifier, and even then 20-30 lbs is a huge stretch. mature athletes can't put on 30 or 50, or even 20 lbs of pure muscle in a year without chemicals. see: the steiner brothers, tony mandarich, arnold, lee haney, and thousands of others as examples. except out also a fighter or wrestler who drastically cuts weight - they can get 20 lbs heavier in a day or two after the bout, but it ain't muscle.
Once, when wrestling ended in high school, I gained 25 lbs in a week and a half.
I give this Five Fakes out of Five.
While the exact details of numbers might not be perfect, and I certainly can't prove one way or the other if he had any other "assistance," this was actually somewhat documented.
How is Keegan not top 10?
If he transferred in, how is it "returning?" Same with Nugent.
Returning to college football?
(Instead of going pro.)
This is "great" but did the blog not establish that PFF OL ratings are hot trash? I am pretty sure they ranked MSU OL as better than ours the last two years.