cbs650

January 14th, 2015 at 1:49 AM ^

Jay Harbaugh can break down film and handle all that stuff. He's done it. What we don't know is can he translate that to teaching. Analyzing tape doesn't always equate to teaching it just like all former players are not capable coaches.

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Jack Hammer

January 14th, 2015 at 3:27 AM ^

Sorry. Haven't read all posts. But isn't it a great thing for Jim and UM if 5 of his 6 kids are in A^2? (Assuming his second oldest son attends UM.) I hope he is here for the next 25 years. WE WILL DO NO BETTER THAN JIM HARBAUGH. sorry. forgot to turn off all caps.

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vablue

January 14th, 2015 at 5:30 AM ^

Just a reminder, Jay does have more Super Bowl rings working as part of an offensive coaching staff than anyone on this board that is criticizing him.  Just something to keep in mind.

Well, okay, I guess I am assuming Bill Belichek is not trolling the boards to crush the Jay Harbaugh hire.  Sorry if I am wrong on that.

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SalvatoreQuattro

January 14th, 2015 at 6:21 AM ^

My dad knows first hand as he worked for my grandfather at Caesars. I don't envy this kid. He will be held to a higher standard because of his name. Jay will justify his hire in time I think.

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M-Dog

January 14th, 2015 at 7:44 AM ^

Curious how this hire will impact TE recruiting.  

On the one hand, your all-important position coach is inexperienced and barely older than you.  That can't exactly help draw elite talent.  

On the other hand, the head coach is a big time rockstar that emphasizes TE's in his offense.  That's a pretty good mitigation. 

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Hannibal.

January 14th, 2015 at 8:41 AM ^

Wouldn't it be nice to not already be looking at an assistant position as a problem that has to be mitigated?

Was there really not one eligible and proven TE coach at a lesser program looking for a pay raise and a promotion?  What's the point of having a big pool of assistant money if you aren't going to go out and find proven guys? 

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NittanyFan

January 14th, 2015 at 8:30 AM ^

 back in 1995, Penn State hired a then 26-year old Jay Paterno to be tight end coach.

 

Same scenario: coach's son with the EXACT same first name to coach the EXACT same position (tight ends).  Only difference is the age, 26-years-old vs. 25-years-old.

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chango

January 14th, 2015 at 8:44 AM ^

First off, congrats on getting the job. Many father/son combos have coached together. Schottenheimers, shanahans, spurriers etc. Jim has put together a staff that he is ready to go in to battle with. They will fight some wars and find out what, if any, their weeknesses are. Jay played some TE and had been around the best of the best coaches his whole life. As for recruiting, it may be a situation where some future recruits eyes won't open to M and heads will not turn until after they see this next season and the whooping Jim and co coach out of the current players. Exciting times are a coming.

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KC Wolve

January 14th, 2015 at 8:57 AM ^

People are seriously worried/pissed about this? Bizarre. He has some experience, been around some of the best coaches his whole life, and oh yeah, there are 8 other damn good coaches on the staff that will probably notice if something is off.

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uncleFred

January 14th, 2015 at 9:43 AM ^

"I draw the longer straw," Harbaugh said. "There's a difference between being 24 and 50 in the way you see the world. He's most helpful to me. He's young, academic and his perspective enlightens me.

"One time, I asked, 'Do guys give you a hard time about working for your uncle, automatically look at that as the reason you got the job?' His response was: 'It's my responsibility to not give them the opportunity to confirm that suspicion.'

I suspect that Jay will not function solely as the TE coach but will assist Jim in any number of ways. From Jay's response above I have no doubt that he be at minimum the 2nd hardest working coach on MIchigan's staff, assuming his father can out work him. 

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It Happened

January 14th, 2015 at 10:17 AM ^

My first real job was working for my dad. Believe me, he was harder on me then he was any of the other guys. I understand he had to be, and I worked harder and turned out better because of it. I don't doubt that it will be the exact same with Jim and his son. Jim is going to push him hard and I believe we'll be happy with the result.

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ak47

January 14th, 2015 at 10:50 AM ^

That's a bullshit response.  I assume that was a job you had a degree in or could do successfully with what your background was and if not your dad fucked up.

Being a coach means teaching blocking techniques, route running, seeing the mistakes your players make and correcting them, finding the right balance between size/strength and figuring out how to get there, recruiting and showing how your experience or past performance can show that recruit that you have the skills necessary to take them to the next level.  Jay has none of that.  He might be a great guy and one day a great coach but there is a reason everyone else starts as a GA learning under someone, especially if they didn't play themselves.

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WFDEric

January 14th, 2015 at 12:09 PM ^

Jay was a GA at Oregon St for 4 years. Then, Jay Harbaugh provided statistical analysis, self-scouting reports and breakdowns of opposing defenses for the Ravens for 3 years (quality control).

If you look at DJ Durkins bio he was a GA for 2 years after playing college ball before getting a job as position coach.

Mattison was a GA for 1 year before becoming a position coach.

Roy Manning was a DA (Defensive assistant) for 1 year and then 1 year as a GA before taking a position coach job.

Tim Drevno was a GA for 1 year before taking a position coach job.

Baxter was a GA for 3 years before taking a position coach job.

Point is...This is a normal advancement pace in the coaching ranks.

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ALLmaizeNOhayes

January 14th, 2015 at 12:23 PM ^

Wisconsin's Chryst hired a TE coach who was also a former Offensive QC coach.  Very similar move to what we are looking at only difference is young Harbaugh was at the pro level and UW's new hire was at the college level.

 

 

 

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