Danwillhor

April 30th, 2015 at 11:10 PM ^

Not a huge believer in Mariota & QB is weak overall. Yet, when HB is making the 1st round comeback it is (may get a 3rd HB), a guy with a toe issue that could hamper the one thing he's very good at (why you draft him) getting traded up for a couple days after getting caught with pot (bigger issue being the timing judgement, not the pot) & such a lack of trades overall proves it. The teams themselves aren't in love with anyone all that much. It just feels like the 1st round became the 2nd after the top-10. Most positions are equal across the top 3 or 4 guys with nobody being spectacular. Just a "back heavy" draft. Not much for mega-stars but a ton of good, solid players that will be decent starter/role guys. BTW, Lions just picked & I really like the pick! We could have traded out to the early 2nd & grabbed him but not much later as he is that kind of solid OL that the great drafting teams always "reach" for & turn into a decade long starter. This guy is smart & a very solid OG. Nice pick as you can't replace Suh. Brown isn't Suh, he's Cory Redding 2.0, a fine player but we can't replace him in the 1st. I like the pick. Get a DT in the 2nd/3rd that isn't much further off than Brown.

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SalvatoreQuattro

April 30th, 2015 at 11:36 PM ^

I have history on my side. You don't. It's wa terrible pick made by a terrible GM. You don't need three fucking guards.  You don't expend draft position to acquire a backup guard. You just don't.

The Lions have a dire need for DT and CB. Instead they wasted it on a position that can eaisly be filled in later rounds. It was a remarkably stupid pick no matter the quality of the player. Once Ramirez was drafted the guard position was filled--unless of course they think Swanson can't cut it. Then the Lions are admitting they wasted a 3rd on him. Either way, the Lions wasted a pick.

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Ricky from Sunnyvale

May 1st, 2015 at 12:59 AM ^

Travis Swanson plays center not guard and will start this year

Ramirez is depth thats all

Add Ngata in this draft as well. Judging by how most the DT's slid in the 1st round it seemed like the league had a consensus on this years crop

Making fun of the Lions is like picking on a smaller kid, what's the point

Have a nice day :)
 

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DrewGOBLUE

April 30th, 2015 at 11:14 PM ^

I would have cringed a bit if his response to being pre-med would've been simply "to help people." But this guy seems to be very genuine with all-around excellent character.



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7words

April 30th, 2015 at 11:14 PM ^

Super nice and intelligent kid.  I take it he wouldn't have lasted til the Lions 2nd round pick since they had him in the green room for the draft?   

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MaximusBlue

April 30th, 2015 at 11:17 PM ^

"This is a really interesting pick for the Lions. Tomlinson is one of my favorite guards in this draft. Tomlinson is a people mover; a phone booth guy and a finisher." -- Mike Mayock

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Wolverine Devotee

April 30th, 2015 at 11:21 PM ^

Funchess probably should have stayed in school. Why leave if you know you aren't going in the first round?

I wish he would've at least waited until Michigan hired Harbaugh. What would you rather do? Play for Harbaugh and go from a non-first rounder to a first rounder AND get your degree?

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Danwillhor

April 30th, 2015 at 11:30 PM ^

Yes. From a personal standpoint? He was mentally gone. Trust me on top of the obvious. I predicted (along with many) that he'd fall to the 3rd round. Many don't think he's a 1st round talent b/c he isn't a a burner & despite his size he just doesn't like to block - period. So, he's a big target that would be a terror inside if he was an average blocker as a TE (!) but he's not. On the outside he tends to get covered by guys half a foot shorter than he is. He isn't an NFL Calvin Johnson with the body, speed & hands. IMO, the Pats grab him to replace Hernandez or he falls late 2nd-3rd. I think they take Brown. We'll see but best to him. I wish he did come back & focus on being great. I'd change my tune then.

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Mac Attack

April 30th, 2015 at 11:24 PM ^

From being a playoff team to contender on offense, is the offensive line. No, they're not being flashy but Millen was shooting for the stars in his tenure, instead of trying to land on the moon. Give confidence in these guys, Mayhew is making the right front office moves and Caldwell is the right coach for this squad.

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Danwillhor

April 30th, 2015 at 11:49 PM ^

but let's see what he does without Suh playing for $100+ Million. Can't replace Suh. When he decides to dominate it doesn't matter if you throw 3 guys at him. Brown is not Suh. No DT in this draft is Suh. We grabbed picks & drafted a very good OL. We did ok. IMO, no CB was worth taking at that spot & I think (almost entire league must, too) there are guys you can get in the 2nd-4th that are close to Brown. The interior OL falls off hard here soon. As players I had him above Brown! I was happily surprised we took him as I thought he'd be that crazy 2nd round steal this year. Every year a great, quiet, unrecognized future decade long starter falls to the mid-2nd because everyone is reaching on hype & overvalued need.

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SalvatoreQuattro

April 30th, 2015 at 11:57 PM ^

So it was mostly about Austin last year. Offensive guards--high quality ones-can be found in all rounds of the draft. You shouldn't be drafted one right after you traded for one.

Martin Mayhew hasn't earned the patience some are giving him. His track in the draft is not good. http://www.christianpost.com/news/martin-mayhew-draft-follies-have-cost-the-detroit-lions-talent-135765/

 

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Danwillhor

May 1st, 2015 at 1:13 AM ^

Austin has more clout in the draft room & they passed on Brown. It's not all Mayhew, he just has final say. Admittedly, Austin could have been screaming for anyone but an OL. Yet, it says more about the draft this year than Mayhew. Teams treated the 1st round like they didn't want to be there lol. If all but 8 teams could have traded back they would have! It's deep but weak. You ever play Madden, get to the draft & think "dafuq?" Haha? There are like 5 dudes worth taking in the 1st so the game rates scrub ass QBs 2nd round talents? That's the real life 2015 draft. If Brown was anywhere near Suh we'd have grabbed him. Suh is Suh. Nobody in this draft is half as good a talent. I'm just saying that this year we were at 23, we snatched 2 picks to drop back & take a good OL. Yes, you can funrd them deep but that's more projecting/buckshot drafting to find. We drafted a starter. As for Austin, I won't deny he had an impact but let's see what a Suh-less Austin led Lions defense does. If he gets these guys to play as well up in the front 7 (he had a talented secondary for the first time in Lions forever along with it being his specialty) he'll be a HC in 2016. He didn't get a job last year b/c teams want to see what he does without the widely regarded #2 most dominant DL in the NFL.

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Danwillhor

May 1st, 2015 at 1:32 AM ^

but I do agree if you want to talk last year! I was screaming for Donald & a few others. I knew Mack wouldn't fall to us but k really wanted him. I did not like the Ebron pick at all. I'm not sure many did before Donald not only met but exceeded expectations. We could really use him now considering Suh left & Fairley didn't pan out. I didn't like that pick, either. He only played when he had incentive since HS. HS-JC-Auburn-NFL, he only played hard when he had to get a scholarship then paid. In between he was lazy at all 3 levels.

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Mr. Yost

April 30th, 2015 at 11:25 PM ^

The Saints at 31 and the Pats at 32 BOTH need DTs...no way Brown makes it past them.

All good though, at least we've solidified the OL.

2nd - DT (Eddie Goldman, FSU)
3rd - CB (Senquez Golson, Ole Miss)
5th - WR (Tyler Lockett, KSU)
5th - LB (Jake Ryan, Michigan) - homer pick
6th - RB (Karlos Williams, FSU)
7th - S (Kyshoen Jarrett, VT)
7th - LB (Jeff Luc, Cinci)

That'll be my prediction...I'll be interested to see just how off I am. If we get those first three, they'll ALL be steals (Goldman is prob late 1st/early 2nd, Golson late 2nd/early 3rd, Lockett in the late 3rd/early 4th)

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MaximusBlue

April 30th, 2015 at 11:25 PM ^

Strengths Intelligent four-year starter who sees and responds quickly to twist games up front. Plays with low pad level. Generates torque through hip snap and lower-body power. Has enough sand in his pants to drop anchor against bull rushers. Brings impressive level of power against like-minded phone-booth warriors. Generates push as an in-line blocker. Didn't allow a sack over the last two years. Will give teams his best brand of football when highlighted in straight-ahead power game. For the Lions horrible run game and pass protection, sounds good.

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SalvatoreQuattro

April 30th, 2015 at 11:45 PM ^

an aging Ngata and an unknown in Tyrunn Walker at DE, and one RB. But yeah, let's trade for two guards when we already have one spot filled.

It was a dumb draft by dumb people. Either not trade for Ramirez or don't draft a Tomlinson.But don't do both. Not when you have other pressing needs. 

 

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SalvatoreQuattro

May 1st, 2015 at 12:08 AM ^

If the Lions had done anything in free agency the Tomlinson pick would garner a smile from me. But they didn't.  They signed a DT from one of the worst defenses in the league and traded for a declining Haloti Ngata. Considering Mayhew's track record I have every right to be highly skeptical of the moves made tonight.

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SalvatoreQuattro

May 1st, 2015 at 12:07 AM ^

You don't trade for a OG and draft one when you already have a one spot filled. It's an either/or propositon--especially for a team that has done little to fill pre-existing holes. As it it the Lions still need starters at DT, CB, RB, and perhaps even S if Ihedigbo decides to holdout or gets injured again.

Tomlinson the player isn't the problem. It's how they went about it that infuriates me. The Lions have done nothing in free agency besides sign a DT from a terrible defense. They re-signed an ancient CB. They still don't have a third WR. They may even need a LT.

Guards are dime-a-dozen. They can be had at all rounds of the draft. If they really wanted Tomlinson then don't trade for Ramirez. Draft another late then. Just trade for the two fifths or better yet, a fourth. Lord knows that this team needs the draft picks.

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Danwillhor

May 1st, 2015 at 1:21 AM ^

guards are not a dime a dozen. It's football. We recruited a class of 4-5* guys a few years ago & exactly none of them have panned out as expected so far. A true freshman was or best OL last year. It only gets harder to find opponent beating starters in the NFL. After QB it's maybe the hardest position to find going from LT-RT-C-OG. So, arguably the 5th hardest thing to find in pro football.

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Willis

May 1st, 2015 at 8:05 AM ^

Ramirez also started at center in 2013, and was the 5th highest rated center that year. Warford starts, whoever is more ready between Tomlinson and Swanson starts, and Ramirez starts at either guard or center. Not only did we get at least one starter, but we also improved our depth on a very weak o-line.



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