M-Dog

February 12th, 2016 at 1:13 PM ^

 
 
 
 
1980:
Michigan - 9 recruits
Ohio - 6 recruits
Florida - 5 recruits
West of the Mississippi - 0 recruits
 
2016:
Michigan - 3 recruits
Ohio - 0 recruits
Florida - 6 recruits
West of the Mississippi - 4 recruits
 
Times have changed.
 

M-Dog

February 12th, 2016 at 1:24 PM ^

Agreed, but it won't look anything like 1980.

Bo: "We are a Midwest recruiting school."
 
Under Harbaugh:  Midwest recruits made up only 21% of the 2016 class.  Southeast recruits made up 34%, Mid-Atlantic recruits made up 28%, and West recruits made up 14%.
 
The mix may change some, but it will still be a National class under Jim Harbaugh.
 

 

Doctor What

February 12th, 2016 at 1:56 PM ^

I believe the lack of Ohio recruits was an anomoly. Not sure Harbaugh's staff had a lot of Ohio relatioships. I am thinking he had to build those relationships and demostrate success to compete for their top recruits. Not sure he wants to settle for left overs like Hoke did...in many but not all instances. 

markusr2007

February 12th, 2016 at 1:23 PM ^

Caveat: 1980 Dr. Charles Holland's Top 100 H.S. Recruits list:

QB Steve Smith and OL/DL Vince DeFelice

The previous year, lots of Michigan kids, an Arizona kid and a conpicuous Florida kid:

1979 National 100 by Dr. Charles Holland, who was a football analyst and computer scientist.

1. Eric Dickerson, RB, 6-3, 205, Sealy (Texas) - SMU

2. Don Mosebar, OT, 6-7, 265, Visalia (Calif.) - USC

3. John Elway, QB, 6-2, 185, Granada Hills (Calif.) - Stanford

4. Drew Dossett, ILB, 6-4, 235, Shreveport (La.) – USC

5. Joey Browner, OLB, 6-4, 200, Atlanta (Ga.) – USC

6. Darryl Sheffey, OG, 6-3, 272, Washington (DC) – Oklahoma State

7. Roger Craig, RB, 6-2, 202, Davenport (Ia.) – Nebraska

8. Jimmy Smith, RB, 6-0, 190, Kankakee (Il.) – Purdue

9. Mike Cade, RB, 6-1, 205, Eloy (Az.) – Michigan

10. George Achica, OT, 6-5, 265, San Jose (Calif.) – USC

11. Vincent White, RB, 5-8, 175, Denver (Co.) – Stanford

12. Craig James, RB, 6-1, 210, Houston (Texas) – SMU

13. Stanley Wilson, RB, 6-1, 195, Los Angeles (Calif.) – Oklahoma

14. Wayne Apuna, ILB, Honolulu (Hawaii) – Arizona State

15. Mike McCloskey, TE, 6-4, 230, Philadelphia (Pa.) – Penn State

16. Jon English, QB, 6-3, 190, Birmingham (Mi.) – Michigan State

17. Tony Hunter, WR, 6-6, 210, Cincinnati (OH) – Notre Dame

18. Buford McGee, RB, 6-1, 180, Durant (Ms.) – Ole Miss

19. Phillip Boren, DT, 6-5, 245, Dallas (Texas) – Arkansas

20. Kevin Ward, QB, 6-1, 198, Conestoga (Pa.) – Arizona

21. Tom Jelesky, TE, 6-6, 250, Merrillville (In.) – Purdue

22. Mitchell Bennett, WR, 5-11, 180, Bonham (Texas) – SMU

23. Doug Collins, DT, 6-4, 240, Andalusia (Al.) – Alabama

24. Weldon Ledbetter, RB, 6-3, 210, Clayton (Mo.) – Oklahoma

25. Michael Carter, DT, 6-2, 235, Dallas (Texas) – SMU

26. Malcom Moore, TE, 6-5, 215, San Fernando (Calif.) – USC

27. Anthony Carter, WR, 5-11, 165, Riviera Beach (Fla.) – Michigan

28. Matt Harlien, OT, 6-4, 265, Corpus Christi (Texas) – Texas Tech

29. Johnny Hector, RB, 5-11, 180, New Iberia (La.) – Texas A&M

30. Claybon Fields, OT, 6-7, 270, Washington (DC) – Purdue

31. Doug Smith, DT, 6-5, 255, Bayboro (NC) – East Carolina

32. Glenn Cobb, LB, 6-4, 212, Miami (OH) – Ohio State

33. Ray Brown, DE, 6-4, 230, Rome (Ga.) – Clemson

34. Rob Moore, FB, 6-2, 217, Santa An (Calif.) – Stanford

35. Winfred Carraway, ILB, 6-3, 235, Detroit (Mi.) – Michigan

36. Stanley Godine, DB, 6-1, 180, Houston (Texas) – SMU

37. Reuben Jones, QB, 6-2, 205, Tulsa (Ok.) – TCU

38. Curt Warner, RB, 6-1, 180, Pineville (WV) – Penn State

39. Paul Parker, OG, 6-3, 280, Tulsa (Ok.) – Oklahoma

40. Bob Clasby, DT, 6-5, 265, Boston (Mass.) – Notre Dame

41. Steve Mott, DL, 6-4, 245, New Orleans (La.) – Alabama

42. Cyrus Lawrence, RB, 5-10, 200, South Hampton (Va.) – Virginia Tech (VPI then)

43. Norris Brown, WR, 6-3, 197, Laurens (SC) – Georgia

44. Johnell Brown, QB, 6-1, 180, Gainesville (Fla.) – Florida

45. Joe Lukens, OG, 6-4, 230, Cincinnati (OH) – Ohio State

46. Shawn McNamara, OT, 6-6, 250, Long Island (NY) – Penn State

47. Will Forts, OLB, 6-1, 205, Fayetteville (Ga.) – Georgia

48. Shelby Gamble, RB, 6-0, 195, South Haven (Mi.) – Boston College

49. Darryl Songy, S, 6-2 185, New Orleans (La.) – Oklahoma

50. Melvin Dorsey, RB, 6-0, 180, Atlanta (Ga.) – Georgia

51. Kevin Lindsey, RB, 5-11, 180, Sandusky (OH) – Ohio State

52. Andrew Provence, OT, Savannah (SC) – South Carolina

53. Irv Eatman, OL, 6-3, 250, Dayton (OH) – UCLA

54. Rick Sharp, TE, 6-5, 220, Carmel (In.) – UCLA

55. Randy Justes, DL, 6-5, 240, Omaha (Neb.) – Missouri

56. Kinny Hooper, RB, 6-1, 205, Cleveland (Tn.) – Ole Miss

57. Phil Carter, RB, 5-11, 190, Tacoma (Wa.) – Notre Dame

58. Tim Spencer, RB, 6-2, 190, St. Clarisville (OH) – Ohio State

59. Tim Case, OL, 6-4, 250, Tilton (Ga.) – Georgia

60. Spencer Jackson, WR, Boca Raton (Fla.) – Florida

61. Darryl Moore, OT, 6-5, 240, Venice (Calif.) – USC

62. Eddie Hornback, QB, 6-2, 200, (Ocean Springs (Ms.) – Notre Dame

63. Dan Plonk, OG, Merritt Island (Fla.) – Florida

64. Rich Hewlett, QB, 6-1, 195, Plymouth (Mi.) – Michigan

65. Roosevelt Wilder, RB, 5-11, 195, Macon (Ga.) – Alabama

66. Clyde Duncan, WR, 6-3, 185, Potomac (Md.) – Tennessee

67. Alana Risher, QB, 6-2, 180, Slidell (La.) – LSU

68. Randy Edwards, DT, 6-4, 245, Marietta (Ga.) – Alabama

69. Rob Hedequist, C, 6-3, 218, Spokane (Wa.) – USC

70. Don Dixon, TE, 6-6, 230, Jacksonville (Fla.) – Georgia

71. James Jones, QB, 6-3, 205, Pompano Beach (Fla.) – Florida

72. Chuck McSwain, RB, 6-3, 198, Forest City (NC) – Clemson

73. Barry Young, OT, 6-6, 240, Apple Valley (Mn.) – Notre Dame

74. Dan Marino, QB, 6-2, 185, Pittsburgh (Pa.) – Pittsburgh

75. Donnie Humphrey, DT, 6-3, 260, Huntsville (Ala.) – Alabama

76. Marty Martinez, WR, 6-1, 180, Drayton Plains (Mi.) – Stanford

77. Todd Blackledge, QB, 6-4, 200, North Canton (OH) – Penn State

78. Jeff Guy, DB, 6-1, 175, Aurora (Colo.) – Texas

79. Mike Edwards, WR, 6-5, 200, Bradenton (Fla.) – Auburn

80. Mike White, DL, 6-5, 240, Philadelphia (Pa.) – Arizona State

81. Dan Gregus, OL, 6-5, 235, Chicago (Il.) – Illinois

82. Layne Walker, QB, Clovis (NM) – SMU

83. Derald Williams, RB, 6-0, 195, Jacksonville (Fla.) – Florida

84. Mike Buchanan, ILB, University City (Mo.) – Texas

85. Charles Waggoner, RB, 6-2, 200, Dallas (Texas) – SMU

86. Mike Cofer, DE, 6-5, 220, Knoxville (Tn.) – Tennessee

87. Jim Hawn, El Dorado (Calif.) – Arizona State

88. Guy Thurston, DL, 6-3, 240, Arvada (Co.) – Colorado

89. Al Blue, DB, 6-2, 175, Maitland (Fla.) – Alabama

90. Richard Abraham, DE, 6-3, 238, Paducah (Ky.) – Kentucky

91. Woody Grigg, OT, 6-7, 240, Winnfield (La.) – Ole Miss

92. Marcus Toney, DB, 6-2, 190, Muskegon (Mi.) – Michigan State

93. Damon McCurty, LB, 6-3, 220, Washington County (Ga.) – Clemson

94. Todd Spratte, TE, 6-4, 235, Rochester (Mn.) – Nebraska

95. Brian Holland, RB, 5-11, 195, Devon (Pa.) – Arizona

96. Jeff Hostetler, QB, Davidsville (Pa.) – Penn State

97. Chuck Ehin, DT, 6-5, 255, Layton (Utah) – BYU

98. Michael Charles, RB, 6-0, 205, Houston (Texas) – SMU

99. Billy Ray Smith, DL, 6-4, 215, Dallas (Texas) – Arkansas

100. Kyle Money, QB, 6-3, 200, Dallas (Texas) - Baylor

FauxMo

February 12th, 2016 at 1:26 PM ^

This isn't that surprising. I am pretty sure that back in 1980 people believed the world ended at the Mississippi, and that if your tried to go any farther you would simply fall into an abyss beneath the turtle that carries the planet on its back...

True Blue Grit

February 12th, 2016 at 1:26 PM ^

tenure is more and more players coming from other states not in the Midwest.  This somewhat coincided with the shift in population as more people moved to the south and west.  For example Flint used to be a big area of talent for Michigan in the 70's and before, but declined markedly by the end of the 80's.  

LSAClassOf2000

February 12th, 2016 at 1:38 PM ^

Not surprisingly, we were also doing (and have done for a long time) very well in Chicagoland as well as northwestern Ohio (where entire swaths of the team seem to come from) as the 1980s began - they show that map as well. To see this snapshot is interesting when you compare it to classes lately.