11W's Article About B10 Stadium Arrests/Ejections in 2014
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football/2015/07/55371/a-look-at-…
Say what you want about 11W's forum, but their writers do post some interesting articles.
To cut to the chase, MSU led the league in arrests at a whopping 258 followed by Wisko at 200 and OSU at 186. (Michigan only had 18....)
In terms of ejections, Wisco led the league at 205 followed by Michigan at 107 and OSU at 104...
Minnesota managed to have the lowest amount of arrests at 1 and Purdue had the lowest amount of ejections at 5. Still impressive even though they barely had a third of the attendance as PSU, OSU and UM.
All in all, I can't say I'm surprised about MSU, but I also didn't think Michigan's arrest number would be so low either. Kudos.
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Sounds like Michigan is predisposed to just eject and cal it a day. Yay AAPD restraint?
Wouldn't their stadium be pretty empty by the 4th quarter that way?
My brother-in-law is a Husker alum and he and my sister take in games when NE is close by (live in western MI). Like most Huskers, he's ridiculously nice. They said they will NEVER go back to MSU. Couldn't believe that a bunch of drunks were throwing garbage and screaming at a pushing-60 couple in town for a football game. In contrast, they LOVE Ann Arbor. Our fans are great to them and he said one guy he sat next to knew more about Nebraska recruiting than he did (obvoulsy an MGoblog reader).
I went to East Lansing for the 2013 Michigan-MSU game and had a blast.
Apparently my Sparty friend stared daggers at anyone who looked twice at me, so I suppose that helped.
And yeah, I did see some Michigan fans get harassed. But everyone around me was strangely nice, and I ended up having a lot of fun.
I'm aware that I'm an outlier.
I know that the police in EL are way more strict than AA cops. Don't ever go 5-10 over the speed limit on Hagadorn or Grand River...
If they're that strict about speed limits, then I can't imagine them with minors, alcohol and drunks on game day.
Or MSU fans could just be assholes like I've learned from my own experiences in the stands over there.
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Once had to get up at 3am, drive to EL and bail a friend out of jail for urinating in public. Fucking jail, for pissing in public. Ridiculous.
Yep and you can apparently be registered as a sex offender if it's done too close to a park/school/playground
What was the harm?
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That's why the term "Minnesota Nice" exists, I guess.
Interestingly, isn't Minnesota one of the few stadia that allow beer sales? If so, may speak to the seemingly counterintuitive argument that when the stadium actually sells the alcohol, the incentive to get blindingly drunk before the game is at least partially mitigated.
I went to USF games and an Outback Bowl in Tampa. They allow beer sales there. It's really not a problem at all. Then again, since Jim Leavitt got railroaded, nobody there has really been very interested in USF football anyway.
But I did see Wiscy vs Tennessee, two rowdy fanbases that like their alcohol, and there was no problem. The Michigan vs South Carolina game didn't result in any fights in the stands, at least that I could see.
There really isn't any reason to curtail beer sales. If someone acts like too much of an asshole, they can just be ejected from the stadium.
I think fans knowing they won't be able to get drinks in the stadium leads to some chugging right before the game and therefore being even more intoxicated when they enter. Of course I have no experience with this.
Iowa's list is gold.
Having lived in MN I can tell you... Minnesota Nice is just a slogan. Reality is "Minnesota Nice To Your Face".
Having lived in MN I can tell you... Minnesota Nice is just a slogan. Reality is "Minnesota Nice To Your Face".
I was once ejected from Michigan Stadium for trying to smuggle in two beers. I had one in my shorts pocket (I had already had a good 8+ that morning and was not thinking about what a terrible hiding spot that was), and one waistbanded. They spotted the one in the shorts pocket right away, took my ticket, and booted me.
Once out of the stadium, I drank the still hidden beer from my waistband, bought another ticket from a scalper, and went in a different entrance.
#TheMichiganDifference
I got kicked out of my last OSU game in 2013 b/c the stadium ran out of seating somehow.... So the staff shoveled us all into the aisles only to kick us out later by threatening to call the cops since we were in the way (even though the stadium staff put us there due to overcrowding in the first place smh)
#DaveBrandonsMichigan
Yep and then when my buddy and I asked what the hell we should do about this, one of the staff members said take it up with Dave Brandon
....
So this was our prompt reaction.
Jesus, two beers and you were ejected? When I was a student, I went in with a barely hidden fifth of Jack and a couple joints. Nobody cared. Different time.
The punchline is I was so trashed I forgot the entire game and so I have never since drank for a game, not even a game I'm watching on TV.
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Went to game as a student in early 80s and we tried walking in carrying a 12-pack. They said, "You can't bring that." So we walked back 10 steps, wrapped the 12-pack in a jacket and went right in.
It's a shame the "anything goes" days are gone. No student drives to the games, so didn't seem like a big deal at the time.
Were you already in the gate when discovered?
Eventually, it makes its way to the Great Lakes, therefore East Lansing ultimately shares this treasure with the rest of one of the world's largest watersheds. How thoughtful of them indeed.
Actually, one of the times I went to see us play them in East Lansing, it was a veritable misty urine-soaked breeze up and down campus after the game. Never pee into the wind.
it's easy to have no arrests or ejections when you only have 15 people in the stands.
(i know, minny was better than that)
Tell me about it... I had 50-60 year old men calling me an Arab terrorist (Not Arab or Muslim) every 5 seconds when I went to EL for the game in 2011... They then followed me to the bathroom trying to start shit until they realized that maybe they're too old to be blatantly racist and annoying like that...
Luckily I had some MSU and UM buddies around me to keep the situation under control. Obviously starting a confrontation in the stands was not going to favor a bunch of UM kids amongst hundreds of MSU fans.
MSU fans are hands down the worst. They make OSU fans look like angels.
11 Warriors is a good website. On occasion, you can even get into a reasonable discussion with some of their posters.
I've attended a fair number of Michigan games over the years and crazy behavior seems to be the exception rather than the norm.
What I'd also be curious to see would be the nunber of criminal incidents, i.e., felonies and misdemeanors, by university for student-athletes in the B1G as well as other major conferences. I can't remember the last time I read about a Wisconsin player being arrested. Ditto for PSU. Maybe it's because no one drinks in State College or Madison. /s
I've always thought OSU is like what would happen if you merged MSU and Michigan (plus the Ohio factor). There's a lot of really smart, reasonable people who go through that school, but there's also hoards of mouthbreathing fans that cheer alongside of them
when it comes to Michigan. Most of it is light hearted but there's an element that wants to prove their fandom by taking it to an extreme level. You don't see that for any games other than Michigan in Columbus. Maybe I'm too old (39), but I just don't get why you wouldn't use the letter "M", yell "Ann Arbor is a whore" etc.
The worst fans I've seen are by far Miami. They were bad in Columbus and in Miami. We felt physically threatened after leaving the stadium after we lost something like 26-10. That was by far the worst game I've ever been to.
I really can't see why some of you think a night game against MSU would be a good idea. Brandon was right that it would tax the public security system in a way other games would not.
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I think it's overblown. For the PSU night game, 1 person per 19,000 were arrested according to this article. That game's attendance was 113,085 so that amounts to only about 6-7 arrests.
I know the timing of the arrests may be strictly during game hours, but that is miniscule compared to other schools. I don't think it would be much of a problem.