Issues with Brian's Playoff Plan...And a plan of my own...

Submitted by marvel99 on
"If anyone can give a single reason that would be worse than what we've got now, I'm listening."  - Brian

NOTE: I started posting this as a comment under Brian's post, but it grew too long, so I started a Diary, plus I wanted to get some good feedback on my plan suggestion.

Some great ideas Brian, but I DON'T think your plan would be all that much better than what we got now. I agree that the current BCS needs to be replaced with a playoff system and my playoff plan is detailed at the end of this post. But first, here are my reasons why Brian's plan won't make us any better off:

1)The elimination of the autobids by the conference champions is a BIG red flag. If you are not going to reward the regular season conference champions, then why even have conferences? I mean, under Brian's plan, we should just go to a 116- (or whatever number) team conference and just forget about these regional conference distraction thingys. This doesn't sound like a good idea to me. I know Brian didn't suggest that we disband the conferences, but what's the point in having them, if there is no tangible reward to winning one? And yes, the current system does offer a reward for the conference champions (well at least for the BCS conferences it does).

2) Teams will play REALLY weak-ass non-conference schedules (even more than they do now). Under Brian's plan, the goal for each team will be to have the best regular season record as possible, kind of similar to how it is now. But with one exception, not teams are GUARANTEED to get an autobid if they win their conference. So if they stumble in the non-conference once or maybe 2 times, they still got a shot a BCS game due to the conference tie-ins. Under Brian's plan, as previously noted, this tie-in is eliminated. So, teams will feel that there is no need to play any tough non-conference games anymore, and just pad their stats against NW Lafayette State U and the like to improve their chances. Heck, some teams are doing this already, even with the BCS bowl tie-ins (see UM). But this will increase more under Brian's plan and it also would not be a good thing.

3) A six team playoff chosen by a committee is a good idea, but they would never choose a team from a mid-major conference, as we all know. There would need to be some type of Notre Dame type rule put into place the would guarantee a spot for these teams (and also one for ALL independents, not just ND). Without this, we are just rewarding the BCS schools again and again, and this is what we wanted to eliminate by going to the playoff in the first place. The current system at least provides some type of reward for great mid-major schools. But if you only are picking 6 schools using a committee, the members are going to fight hard for the conference champions every year, and you are going to be leaving the mid-majors out most of the time.


Now here is what I propose:

A 8 team playoff that is includes 6 auto bids for the BCS conference champions and 2 at large spots. The BCS conferences have total control over how they choose their respective champions, be it championship games like the SEC or stupid "you haven't been in a while, I guess it's your turn" tie-breakers like the Big 10. However they choose it, whatever, just choose one team. This will put leave the EMPHASIS on the regular season, and we can still say that every game counts and all that stuff we like to say when we compare why college football is so much greater that college basketball.

As for the last 2 at large spots, we will use the BCS (yes I said BCS) rankings to determine these teams from the remaining 100 or so teams left in the field, but only if we put the strength of schedule component back into the formula (more on this later). If the BCS is good for anything, it can definitely rank some teams in a somewhat comprehensive and objective fashion (at least I think it can?). Whichever two teams that are ranked the highest in the BCS polls after the end of the conference championship games, AND are not already qualified for the playoff because they won their conference outright will get the nods. Now, there is one caveat. There are certain exceptions that would cause certain other schools to have playoff seeding priority over a team in the field. If a mid-major team who has won their conference or ANY independent school, not just ND, has a end of season BCS ranking in the top 10, they are guaranteed a spot in the playoff system over a team in the field. This means that if a Boise State or TCU or Notre Dame finishes the year in the top 10 in the BCS (which would probably mean they had an excellent season) they would get an automatic slot over a team from the Big 10 or the SEC that had a very good year, but just didn't win their conference. Well, I guess you better win that conference then, huh? Again, it is important that the emphasis remains on the conference season.

Now, as for the non-conference season, my plan would allow teams to schedule big time matchups at the beginning of the season, because they would be rewarded for doing so by the strength of schedule component in the BCS formulas. Teams would also not worry so much about losing a game early on because they know that if they win their conference, they get a ticket to the BIG PARTY (ok, doesn't sound as good as the Big Dance, I know)!

I've been contemplating and refining this system for about a year or so, and I would really like to submit a formal plan to all the conference presidents sometime after I get it just right. Please provide any feedback that you think would be helpful. Thanks for the long read.


Comments

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

January 8th, 2010 at 8:27 PM ^

NCAA bylaws require half the field to be at-large bids. So six-and-two wouldn't work. I've been told a couple things in response to this: 1) Bylaws can be changed. Counterpoint: Yes, they can, but the bosses aren't going to look at the round hole they have to fit their peg in, make a square peg just because they want to, and then attempt to reshape the hole. It's backwards thinking. If they ever sit down to craft a playoff, they'll look at the existing realities and then build something to fit. 2) The NCAA doesn't run the current system; who says they'd run a new playoff? Counterpoint: If the playoff really is the money machine playoff proponents say it is, the NCAA will appropriate it with a quickness. Besides, playoffs aren't going to work on neutral sites, which is all the BCS has power over. The BCS is an alliance of bowl games, which don't have the ability to tell the schools to host a series of playoff games. So we're back to the problem of the NCAA bylaws, and that plus my belief that autobids are here to stay means that 12 is the bare minimum and 16 is more likely, if a playoff is to be implemented.

Coach

January 9th, 2010 at 1:22 AM ^

That bylaw seems fairly vague to me. It states that the committee must award
at least 50 percent of the championship field to conferences that meet automatic-qualification criteria and provide a play-in criteria. The remaining 50 percent of the championship field shall be reserved for at-large teams.
I don't think that the bolded sections quite mesh. Are they aiming for a true 50/50 split, or are automatic qualifiers more important? On top of that there is already an exception for football, and the phrase "sufficient number of applications" probably has some wiggle room. I took that from 31.3.4.7.1 Team Sports Other Than Men’s Basketball I don't think the bylaws are a hindrance to this playoff proposal, but hopefully somebody that has a better grasp of them can explain it to me.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

January 9th, 2010 at 9:49 AM ^

I'm no lawyerin' type, so I can't really parse the words, and it really doesn't look like a well-written clause. But the application of it in real-life looks like a pretty even 50/50 split, as close as the NCAA can come to it, and never less than 50% at-larges. The whole section is kind of interesting, as it keeps making exceptions for football.....but at the same time, the I-AA playoffs follow all the 50/50 rules anyway. In fact, they're expanding those playoffs specifically to accommodate more autobid teams rather than shove some of the at-larges out of the picture. I think the exceptions might be so they can get out of awarding autobids to conferences that are otherwise eligible under those bylaws. In any case, it looks like instituting a playoff would require a rewrite of a lot of these sections, which sort of nullifies my square pegs and round holes argument. At the same time, in practice, they've always abided by the 50/50 split - I don't see why they suddenly wouldn't here.

Md23Rewls

January 8th, 2010 at 8:34 PM ^

The tangible reward for winning a conference wouldn't change. Right now, a conference title comes with a guaranteed spot in a bowl game, it could still do that if there was a playoff.

Sambojangles

January 9th, 2010 at 3:19 PM ^

Well, under Brian's plan the championship is always at the Rose Bowl, I assume a week later like the BCS Game is now. So you can still have the regular Rose Bowl host the Big Ten and Pac-10 champs, if they are not in the tournament. The two semi games would come from the Fiesta, Sugar, Orange and maybe another big bowl (Cotton, now that it's in Jerry's place?), so the other two would still be able to host conference champs not in the tournament. This year according to Brian's plan, pre bowl games: 1. Alabama 2. Texas 3. Cincy 4. TCU 5. Florida 6. Boise Alabama gets bye to Sugar, Texas gets bye to Fiesta. Cincy hosts Boise mid-December, and TCU hosts Florida. Based on bowl performances, I think Boise and Florida advance. So Sugar bowl is Bama-Boise and Fiesta is Texas and Florida. The Rose Bowl can still be the prize for winning the Big Ten and Pac-10, And since the Big XII and SEC champs are in the tournament, they lose autobids. Big East champ Cincy gets a trip to the Orange Bowl, against probably Georgia Tech (ACC). As I said above, another big bowl might have to be added to provide for at large independents, and the losers of the first round games. My point, hopefully demonstrated by the example, is that there is still a good, tangible benefit to winning a conference, even if you do not make the tournament.

marvel99

January 8th, 2010 at 8:36 PM ^

+1 to you. I didn't know about the 1/2 the field must be at-large bids thing. That is stupid, IMO..hell, in everyone's opinion. It just doesn't make any sense. As for the control, it would need to be ran by the NCAA, similar to the basketball tourney. They can still tie the bowls in and the smaller tiered bowls can still go on, as long as they don't get in the way of the big boys. Similar to how the NIT does it games on the off days of the NCAA tournament.

theyellowdart

January 8th, 2010 at 8:48 PM ^

1.) I don't see how anything is truly going to change from now when it comes to conferences. If you win your conference you're going to a bowl game, are deemed conference champions, and will have the best chance to get into the playoff from their conference. It's the same as it is now, except instead of hoping to get into the NCG you're simply hoping you get into the playoff. 2.) This is why a selection via committee is so key. If you load up on a super weak OOC schedule you'd be hurting yourself in the eyes of the committee. In all honesty, I again believe not much would change from the current setup. 3.) I simply disagree completely. If there was a playoff this year you honestly think that Ohio State or Oregon would be selected ahead of Boise State and TCU? A playoff gives those smaller schools an actual chance at getting a NC. The current system doesn't.

Tater

January 8th, 2010 at 8:52 PM ^

I like going with at least eight with no autobids. I like the idea of a committee, too. I used to like the idea of going to sixteen teams, incorporating the large conference playoff games, but would settle for a committee choosing eight after they are over. Almost no major conference champions would be jilted by a committee, anyway, unless they really deserved it. Let's say, for example, Miami lost to BYU, Kansas, and Cal, then won the ACC at 7-1 for an 8-4 record. I would have no problem with them being passed over for a more deserving team, like an 11-1 Michigan team that lost to OSU. Other than that, I can't really see a scenario where any conference champion wouldn't get picked anyway. As for home games, I can take them or leave them. I know a lot of people love the "frozen tundra game," but I would rather see players play in domes or warm weather sites. I also know that some think a team should be "rewarded with a home game," but if they are truly deserving of a home game, then they can win at a neutral site. A "regional" setup could have games in Indy (midwest), Atlanta(east), Texas(south), and California(west). Then, two BCS bowls could be used for the semis, and the championship game could be played a week after the bowls, just like it is now. This would not disrupt the bowls at all. Those citing travel inconvenience for the fanbase could look at what most other sports do, and realize that such inconveninces are standard operating precedure for most sports fans. The regional game would allow each team to buy half of the available tickets, which would be quite fair. Anyway, like the systems of Wahoo, Brian, and marvel99, this would be very simple, as fair as you can really expect, and would give fans and players a true champion. In other words, it makes too much sense for the NCAA to even consider.

Ziff72

January 8th, 2010 at 9:26 PM ^

Here is the solution for you and Brian. No autobids for conference champion, but you can't be selected ahead of your league chanpion. Example is ACC does their usual and the conference champ is a 8-4 Georgia Tech team. On the other hand the SEC has 11-1 LSU that is blocked from the champ game due to their loss to Florida 12-0. Florida get knocked of by 10-2 Alabama. In order for LSU and Florida to get in the playoff you have to invite Alabama, but you're not locked into a mediocre GT team and the conf champs don't have to be worried about getting jumped if they had a bad OOC record thus encouraging better OOC schedules.

ChrisR013

January 8th, 2010 at 9:40 PM ^

With the current setup of divisions it really makes me wish that we could start from scratch. My plan would be to take the top 96 D-1 schools and create 8 conferences from them (hopefully maintaining rivalries.) The schools only play their conference. This would allow a playoff that allows only the 8 conference winners to play in the playoff. Everyone else can go to bowls with arbitrary intra-conference matchups, just like the good ol' BCS. This means that the regular season is still finger lickin' good and we get a playoff. I know it won't happen, but can't a man wish? P.S. and honestley are those bottom 20 teams really deserving of being D-1?

4roses

January 9th, 2010 at 9:12 AM ^

This idea actually makes the most sense of anything. I have even looked at it on paper and you can reasonably divide the top 96 teams in a pretty sensical/geographical manner. But lets be real here - this has about a .00001% chance of happening. The "powers that be" get their undies in a bunch at the slightest hint of a status-quo change, this idea is a seismic status-quo change. Don't get me wrong though, I love it, as it definitely make the most sense!

4roses

January 9th, 2010 at 9:05 AM ^

I like the idea of 8 (six auto bids; 2 at-large bids). Things are pretty straight forward - you win your conference, you get in the playoff. I'm sure people will point out that this year a system like this would have been messy as you would have at least 3 teams with legitimate claims of deserving an at-large bid (TCU, Boise St, Florida) But arguing about who gets to be the 8th team in a tournament is still a big improvement over arguing who gets to play in the single "championship" game. One important "Howeva" regarding non-conference schedules. The biggest reason that colleges pad schedules with cupcakes has nothing to do with ducking the competition. It is all about the $$$. The big teams want their non-conference schedule to have as many home games as possible, and this deters home-and-home agreements from occurring. If we had a playoff that guaranteed Big Ten teams a bid for winning the conference, Rich Rod, Tressel, and others would have no problem scheduling a couple games each "pre-season" against teams like USC, Oregon, Texas, Fla, etc. But this would mean having 2 road games in the non-conference each year and the ADs wouldn't allow this. They need the extra home games to keep the $$$ rolling in.

liquidroad

January 9th, 2010 at 12:15 PM ^

I think having 8 teams is the perfect amount. By the time a playoff is a possibility, I wouldn't be surprised if teams like Boise, TCU and BYU are in bigger conferences, so these good "mid major" teams might already have a legitimate shot of making the tournament. Whether the 8 teams are determined by conference champions or a committee, there would still be a ton to play for in the regular season if the first round were home games for the higher seeds, played a week after the last weekend of the regular season. One of the arguments against a playoff is that a loss in the regular season might be meaningless if that team gets into the playoff anyway, but that point would be negated by giving higher seeds home games. For instance, even though penn state won the big 10 in 2008, that loss to iowa would have still mattered because they would be playing the first round away instead of in happy valley. I also agree with Tater that the semifinals should be played in two of the BCS games on new year's day, and then the championship game maybe a couple of weeks later, so that the fan bases of the two winning teams can have some time to arrange their travel plans. Only asking 2 teams' fans to travel to more than one bowl site isn't that bad. Also, the 4 teams that would have lost in the first round would play in the 2 BCS games that are not hosting the semifinals, on Jan. 2nd and 3rd, or right around that time. That way, even if a team loses in the first round, they still get to go to a major bowl game and finish their season on a high note. All the other bowls would stay in tact as well.

Maize and Blue in OH

January 9th, 2010 at 5:34 PM ^

No team that lost in the first round would want to go to a "major bowl" to play a meaningless game for the chance to end their season with a second straight loss. There used to be a consolation game at the final four that took place before the championship game. That game was eliminated because of lack of interest and teams not wanting to go home with another loss.

LesMilesismyhero

January 9th, 2010 at 6:44 PM ^

I think 8 teams with 6 automatic bids (ACC, Big 12, Big East, Big Ten, Pac 10 and SEC) makes for potential problems. If you go all the way back to, well this season, that means you have to exclude one of Boise State, TCU, or Florida. Based off BCS rankings, this season you would have excluded Boise State. If a WAC team can schedule and beat the Pac 10 champ, finish the season undefeated and be excluded from the playoff, how is that any better than the current situation? Just one man's opinion. If you are going to have a playoff, make sure you let every team control its own destiny for entering the playoff. Try this, every conference gets an automatic bid. Currently there are 11 conferences, so make it a 12 team format, with one at-large for the highest rated team that did not win it's conference (by BCS rankings). This will reward the top 4 teams with a first round bye. It gives the best teams from Conference USA, MAC, Sun Belt, WAC and Mountain West a shot at the BCS confrences. You could play all games (except the championship) at the higher seeds home stadium. Independents would be forced to find a conference, but I'm ok with that, and if the Notre Dame faithful aren't they can go play with themselves, or hope for the at-large. What would we have this season. 1. Alabama 8. Ohio State 9. Georgia Tech 4. TCU 5. Florida (at large bid) 12. Troy 2. Texas 7. Oregon 10. Central Michigan 3. Cincinnati 6. Boise State 11. East Carolina

BlueBulls

January 12th, 2010 at 5:03 PM ^

Just because there the math works out nicely doesn't mean that 11 auto bids is a good idea. Ironically, you have Florida playing Troy in the first round. I couldn't have provided a better argument myself. They already played this year, the result? 56-6. Is that a team that should be given a shot at the national championship?

jsquigg

January 9th, 2010 at 12:19 PM ^

Interesting. A good playoff system would solve some problems, but while this diary does hope to solve the problem, the real problem is that everyone has a different bracket/scenario and the lack of people getting behind just a few ideas is preventing the dismantling of an established, albeit flawed, system. Whoever has the influence/power needs to adopt a system and get people behind it to even get close to challenging the BCS. Hopefully that happens while they "review" the process. To me the BCS is worse than the old bowl system and whatever playoff would be decided on.

psychomatt

January 9th, 2010 at 1:37 PM ^

You all are approaching this as if we were starting from scratch. We are not starting from scratch. The six major conferences (and even the other conferences) have substantial vested interests in the current bowl and BCS systems. Unless you deal with these vested interests and convince the key decision-makers involved that the new system is better (or, at a minimum, not worse) for them, they will never agree to it and it will never happen. The first and most difficult issue to deal with is the fact that the six major conferences currently receive automatic bids to the four major bowls. The six major conferences actually own some of the bowls and are not going to agree to anything that either significantly diminishes those bowls or requires the conferences to give up their annual automatic bids to those bowls. Therefore, unless someone successfully sues the major conferences and forces a change (and that appears unlikely), any idea for a playoff must preserve the six automatic bids to the four major bowls and the money that goes with those bids. Moreover, the new system cannot diminish the profile of the four major bowls or disturb the traditional conference tie-ins. Any attempt to do either of these things will be a non-starter. The second issue to deal with is the four at-large bids. Prior to going to a 5th BCS game (the NC game), it would have been easy to move to an 8-team playoff using the four major bowls as the quarter-finals. All you would need to do is add two games the following weekend (the semi-finals) and a NC game one week later. However, when the 5th BCS game was added, two additional at-large bids came with it. It would be extremely difficult if not impossible now to take back the two extra at-large bids. The non-BCS conferences would howl (and rightfully so) and revenue from the extra game would be lost. So, like with the six automatic bids, the four at-large bids need to be preserved. Some have suggested a 16-team playoff. It is very difficult to have a 16-team playoff that preserves the vested interests of the six major conferences and maintains the prestige and profile of the four major bowls, so my suggestion is to limit the playoff to 10 teams. The six BCS conferences would be allowed to keep their automatic bids to the four major bowls and those bowls would be played on New Year's Day and function as the quarter-finals of the playoff. As with the BCS, a committee would be established to select four at-large teams to round out the ten. The at-large teams would not automatically be given bids to the major bowls but would need to earn their slots in those bowls by winning one of two play-in games a week or so prior to the major bowls. Effectively, the winners of the six major conferences would get a bye in round one of the playoff, while the at-large teams would not. This might seem unfair to the non-BCS conferences, but the current system is already unfair to those conferences and this would at least give the non-BCS schools an on-the-field chance to earn their way into and win the NC game. Moreover, it could be argued that the non-BCS schools generally have softer schedules than the BCS schools and that requiring them to play one extra tough game would help compensate for that. Requiring the at-large BCS teams to play an extra game is fair because, well, they failed to win their conferences. Clearly, a 10-team playoff leaves a lot of teams out, but having too many teams undercuts the primary purpose of the playoff anyway, which is to determine the best team in the country. I cannot remember any year in which a team ranked outside the top five or six (let alone 10) had a legitimate claim as the best team in the country. Keeping the field small also guarantees that the regular season does not lose its importance. Every regular season game will continue to matter just as it does now, because even one loss might cost a team its playoff berth. Of course, one of the big benefits besides a better way to pick a national champion is more TV revenue. A 10-team playoff will have a total of nine games versus the five currently in the BCS, so the playoff would generate substantial additional revenue that could be shared by all the conferences. A couple of issues still remain. First, it is questionable whether even the most ardent fan bases would be willing to travel en mass for multiple playoff games in a single season, and it is possible that turnout would be light for the play-in games. Another question is whether this type of playoff will excessively "devalue" the four major bowl games. As long as the winners of the six major conferences continue to get automatic bids to the major bowl games and those games function as the quarter-finals of the playoffs, the four major bowls will continue to be highly coveted due to the fact that they effectively come with a bye week. I also doubt the major bowls will generate any lesser TV ratings than they do now just because they are the quarter-finals of a playoff. Again, this clearly is not the best playoff system one can come up with starting from scratch, but we are not starting from scratch and the only way we are going to get any playoff system is if the key decision-makers are convinced they are not losing anything. A 10-team playoff that keeps the automatic bids and traditional bowl tie-ins for the six major conferences and keeps four at-large bids (with play-in games) is a better way to select a national champion than the current system. It does not undercut the importance of the regular season or destroy the bowl system. Ultimately, it is a system under which none of the six major conferences or even the lesser conferences will lose anything. All of the conferences should, in fact, come out ahead financially. For these reasons, notwithstanding the many "better" ideas floating around, this is the only one (or something close to it) that I can see all of the key decision-makers eventually accepting.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

January 10th, 2010 at 12:21 AM ^

The thing that cracks me up is this. Every year, people have their gumdrop rainbow fantasies, and they all ever only manage to address that year's specific issues. Last year, we had the Big 12 mess, two power teams in the Big Ten and two more in the SEC, and so nearly every silly little Candyland fantasy dispensed with the autobids and just invited everyone that looked about right. This year, pretty much everyone who's "deserving" has won their conference and there's really only one team per conference. So out the window go the pile of at-larges, and now it's win your conference or go home. Last year was soooooooo unfair to the Texas Techs and Texases of the world......someone please tell me how this one-at-large stuff or win-your-conference-or-go-home stuff would shut up last year's whiners about unfairness?

Zone Left

January 10th, 2010 at 12:50 AM ^

A playoff isn't happening, but it's fun to speculate and we have eight months of Fulmer Cup and nothing ahead of us, so why not, let's formulate something solid. My thoughts on your suggestion: 1. We have conferences because teams like to have guaranteed schedules and because it's convenient, the NCAA doesn't divide teams into conferences for its own amusement. Eliminating auto-bids gives us a chance to have a stronger overall playoff. 2. You're totally correct about non-conference schedules. You think teams have no shame now, try Alabama vs. Tuscaloosa Central High. Nick Saban is a rule book Jedi/Sith, he'd find a loophole allowing him to count a win against a Pop Warner team. Tuscaloosa Central would be proud to contribute. I like Brian's proposal because bye weeks and home games are incentives to be ranked higher. As much as we hate OSU, they've taken the desire to be ranked higher and decided the best way to accomplish that goal is to schedule marque matchups OOC each year. That said, the real issues when constructing a playoff are: 1. Convince university presidents. 2. Convince coaches. 3. Convince athletic directors. That's easy, right?

mi93

January 10th, 2010 at 5:41 PM ^

I see all the elments of my own preferred plan (I've been thinking about this for YEARS - pre-BCS). 1) 8 teams - 4 at-large, 4 conference champs; the 4 auto-bids are for the best conferences over a period of years/prior year (European champions-league like); have Sagarin to the math 2) BCS style determination for the at-larges, regardless of affiliations 3) first round on campus in mid-December (even though I'm a believer home field is a bigger advantage -too big for a fair playoff - in CFB than any other sport) 4) semis on 1/1 in 2 of the 4 major bowls; losers get to play each other in 1/1 games at the other 2 sites - good season reward 5) NC game 2 Saturdays after 1/1 (mostly for logistics planning time) and NO OTHER GAMES MAY BE PLAYED AFTER 1/1 (the games after 1/1 are ruining the traditional beauty that was once 1/1) 6) trim the regular season back to 11; conferences can play 12th for title game While point 1 would be contentious, it certainly opens it up. Another idea would be that the big 6 champs have to finish in the top 12 to qualify. This year, Boise and Iowa would have been hosed, but this is also one of the few years in my memory that a team outside the top 8 would have had a legit shot in a playoff (Iowa). I don't think anyone believes Boise could win 3 straight against elite competition and if they want to get in show, start begging to get into a better conference. (The MWC probably deserves to be discussed - I said DISCUSSED - as a replacement for the Big East and would have an even better case with Boise in the mix.) Since I don't really like round 1 home games, maybe find other bowl sites to serve as round 1 sites. Find me a city that wouldn't want a second, highly significant game in its locale to drive tourism and I'll show you a town that needs a new mayor and city council (People will attend. Don't fool yourselves.) I'd also keep all the other bowls. They're festive and a great reward. We should assemble a handful of us to build out a legit plan, poke holes, write the business plan and start shopping it. This will happen someday. We just need the right first draft and the right audience. "Who's coming with me?"

oakapple

January 11th, 2010 at 10:25 AM ^

If you want to have a playoff, you need first to understand why the college presidents, athletic directors, and conference commissioners oppose one now. Here’s a big hint: it has nothing to do with seeding, autobids, and so forth. Any playoff proposal that makes sense will be about economics, not about the seeding mechanism. You may rest assured that if the proposal makes economic sense, selecting and seeding the teams is a second-order problem. Many of the institutions are also concerned about the effect on academics: if an 8-team playoff were in existence, Alabama and Texas would have played 16 games apiece this year. That’s a lot of games for kids who are supposedly students, as well. One contributor to this thread suggested going back to an 11-game season. This is a perfect example of ignoring the economics. While the 8 teams that make the playoff would get that game back, the hundred that do not would simply be deprived of the revenue that a 12th game provides. Fans tend to obsess over the nitty-gritty of how the system would work, but that is not really the issue that is holding up a playoff. What counts is that the universities and conferences do not believe it makes economic or academic sense. If it’s ever going to happen, that is what needs to be addressed.

Tim

January 12th, 2010 at 1:16 PM ^

Haven't read any of the other comments, but a playoff with autobids wouldn't work for football. It would render significant parts of the regular season pointless (like the past 2 years when Florida and Alabama both wrapped up their respective divisions with 2 regular season games left. Also, conference champions aren't guaranteed a spot in the national championship game now, so why would extending that policy (again, the only reasonable way to have a playoff is to not have autobids) to a playoff system? Teams can win their conference and still go to the Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl, etc.