Other than Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State, the Big Ten is sad
I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
The recruiting rankings get a bump after three recent Michigan commitments; while the Wolverines still hold the top spot, Ohio State has made a serious run of late to close the gap. Elsewhere, Rutgers goes for quantity, the Indiana schools battle for Not Last Place, a kid named Freedom commits on Independence Day, and Wisconsin comes to a mutual understanding with Taiwan Deal.
Changes since last rankings:
6-19-13: Rutgers picks up Brandon Russell. Michigan State picks up Jalen Watts-Jackson. Wisconsin picks up Dominic Cizauskas. Indiana picks up Willie Yarbary.
6-20-13: Ohio State picks up Jalyn Holmes. Rutgers picks up Jacob Kraut and Donald Bedell.
6-21-13: Ohio State picks up Stephen Collier. Michigan State picks up Gerald Owens and David Beedle. Iowa picks up Jameer Outsey. Indiana picks up Delroy Baker.
6-22-13: Iowa picks up Keegan Render.
6-23-13: Ohio State picks up Terry McLaurin.
6-24-13: Wisconsin picks up Michael Dieter. Illinois picks up Malik Turner. Maryland picks up Brett Kulka.
6-25-13: Wisconsin picks up Taiwan Deal. Maryland picks up Tyler Burke and Brendan Moore.
6-26-13: Rutgers picks up Adonis Jennings. Penn State picks up Troy Vincent Jr.
6-27-13: Ohio State picks up Jamarco Jones. Wisconsin picks up Austin Hudson. Iowa picks up Matt Nelson.
6-28-13: Rutgers picks up Kiy Hester and Jimmy Hogan.
6-29-13: Michigan picks up Freddy Canteen and Brandon Watson.
7-1-13: Michigan picks up Noah Furbush. Penn State picks up Antoine White.
7-2-13: Illinois picks up Matt Domer. Indiana picks up Donovan Clark.
7-4-13: Nebraska picks up Monte Harrison and Freedom(!) Akinmoladun.
|Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings|
|247 Comp. Rank* (Nat'l Rank)||School||# Commits||5*||4*||3*||Rivals Avg||Scout Avg||247 Avg||ESPN Avg||Avg Avg^|
|2 (8)||Ohio State||14||0||9||4||3.36||3.57||3.64||3.50||3.52|
|3 (18) ↑2||Rutgers||20||0||2||17||2.80||2.85||2.85||3.05||2.89|
|4 (19) ↓1||Penn State||13||0||5||8||3.23||3.31||3.31||3.38||3.31|
|5 (25) ↑1||Michigan State||12||0||0||12||3.08||3.17||3.25||3.33||3.21|
|6 (26) ↓2||Northwestern||12||0||3||9||3.17||3.08||3.33||3.33||3.23|
|7 (37) ↑1||Wisconsin||10||0||2||7||3.00||3.20||3.00||3.10||3.08|
|8 (38) ↓1||Nebraska||11||0||0||10||2.91||2.64||2.82||3.00||2.84|
|10 (59) ↑1||Illinois||8||0||0||8||2.63||2.75||2.63||3.00||2.75|
|11 (64) ↑1||Maryland||8||0||0||6||2.75||2.50||2.75||3.00||2.75|
|12 (69) ↓2||Minnesota||5||0||1||4||3.00||3.40||3.20||2.80||3.10|
|13 (75) ↑1||Indiana||7||0||0||4||2.57||2.43||2.57||2.43||2.50|
|14 (76) ↓1||Purdue||6||0||0||4||2.33||2.67||2.67||2.83||2.63|
*Full rankings and explanation here.
^The average of the average rankings of the four recruiting services (the previous four columns). The figure is calculated based on the raw numbers and then rounded, so the numbers above may not average out exactly.
NOTE: Unranked recruits are counted as two-star players.
On to the full data after the jump.
|#1 Michigan - 14 Commits|
The Wolverines narrowly maintain their hold on the top spot — despite a big push from Ohio State — after picking up MD WR Freddy Canteen, MD CB Brandon Watson, and OH LB Noah Furbush over the span of three days.
|#2 Ohio State - 14 Commits|
The Buckeyes add VA DE Jalyn Holmes, IL OL Jamarco Jones, IN WR Terry McLaurin, and GA QB Stephen Collier, moving into a virtual tie for first with Michigan.
|#3 Rutgers - 20 Commits|
The Scarlet Knights shoot up the rankings by sheer force of numbers, adding six commits — NJ S Kiy Hester, NJ WR Adonis Jennings, FL FB Jacob Kraut, NJ DE Jimmy Hogan, NJ DE Donald Bedell, and FL LB Brandon Russell — to move up to the #3 spot. They'll inevitably drop as other programs with more quality at the top fill out their classes.
|#4 Penn State - 13 Commits|
|Troy Vincent Jr.||CB||MD||4||4||3||4|
The Nittany Lions land MD CB Troy Vincent Jr. — a Michigan offer and the son of former Wisconsin and NFL standout Troy Vincent — and NJ DT Antoine White.
|#5 Michigan State - 12 Commits|
|Enoch Smith Jr.||DT||IL||4||3||4||4|
The Spartans land NJ RB Gerald Owens, MI DE David Beedle, and MI CB Jalen Watts-Jackson, moving past Northwestern into fifth place.
|#6 Northwestern - 12 Commits|
Nate Hall picks up two stars from Rivals and three from ESPN.
|#7 Wisconsin - 10 Commits|
The Badgers move past Nebraska after picking up commitments from MD RB Taiwan Deal (NOTY candidacy, er, noted), OH OL Michael Deiter, WI LB Dominic Cizauskas, and FL S Austin Hudson.
|#8 Nebraska - 11 Commits|
The Huskers add NJ WR Monte Harrison and MO TE Freedom Akinmoladun (on Independance Day, no less).
|#9 Iowa - 9 Commits|
The Hawkeyes hold steady at #9 with the additions of IA TE Matt Nelson, IA OL Keegan Render, and NJ LB Jameer Outsey.
|#10 Illinois - 8 Commits|
The Illini pick up a pair of in-state commits in RB Matt Domer — thank goodness that guy didn't choose Notre Dame — and WR Malik Turner.
|#11 Maryland - 8 Commits|
The Terrapins move up a spot after adding PA LB Tyler Burke, TX OL Brendan Moore, and PA DE Brett Kulka.
|#12 Minnesota - 5 Commits|
No change for the Gophers, which drop a couple spots due to inactivity.
|#13 Indiana - 7 Commits|
|DeAndre Herron (JuCo)||OL||IA||3||3||3||NR|
The Hoosiers take the lead in the riveting battle for Indiana's Big Ten Recruiting Champion after gaining commitments from IN CB Donovan Clark, FL OL Delroy Baker, and GA DE Willie Yarbary.
|#14 Purdue - 6 Commits|
The Boilermakers fall to last place despite adding FL OL Denzel Ward — the one-time Michigan commit — and AR K Austin McGehee.
Other than Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State, the Big Ten is sad
Staee is quietly putting together a decent class. Only thing is all the top talent in the state,that sparty was getting during RR's era, is now going to AA.
Well, state is putting together a pretty typical MSU recruiting class. A handful of guys on the 3/4 star border, the rest generic 3 stars. Still very little talent on the lines. It's a decent but non-threatening class.
Guys they knew they would get on the O-line, like Norman and Kugler, they struck out on. Riley Norman is going to staee but for track and field. That hurts.
How is Michigan St ranked ahead of Northwestern?
Looks like MSU's 3 star kids are considerably better than NW's. Enough so to offset NW's 4 stars. Obviously is a nominal difference overall.
MSU has 0 4-stars ranked in the 247 composite (which is what the first chart uses), but it has 9 kids that are 4-stars on at least one service. The ratings for MSU's kids are all over the place this year.
Northwestern has 5 kids that are 4-stars on at least one site (2 consesnsous 4-stars)
given the penalties. They must be making a convincing pitch for more playing time or something like that.
That's what I figure. Depth chart going forward has to look mighty appetizing to players who want playing time, on top of the usual assets PSU has. Silver linings.
I'd also say, it's reasonably encouraging to see so many NJ and MD athletes scatering across the Big Ten. To the degree that we expanded to improve our footprint in recruiting areas, that seems to be paying off some returns.
What are the PSU penalties aside from less scholarships and no bowls?
I am asking because I am trying to think if I am someone who wants playing time and get to the NFL and still go to a high end program. What do I miss by going to PSU? I will lose those practices between the end of the season and the bowl, and a bowl game. My team will lose 2-3 more games a year (maybe). I still go to a high pedigree school with an ex-NFL coach, with a great fan base and a great tradition. I get more playing time assuming some kids who would normally go to PSU go elsewhere.
Just trying to be devil's advocate... there are no guarantees on wins or losses, we saw that here in Michigan with RR. So I don't want to use "winning a championship" as a reason to pick one school over another. So aside from 6 weeks of lost practice a year what am I giving up by going to PSU?
They got a lot of players with lots of stars, which is more than I would have thought given their penalties, but it sure would be nice if they picked up an OL or two (or three). Their top QBs (one each of the past 2 years) won't have the time to throw to their 4 WRs this year behind a line full of nothing but walk-ons.
Sorry Ace but its Independence not Independance.
Love your write-ups. Wouldn't be MGoBlog without us grammar nazis.
Well, if you're going to play that game: (1) "it's" is the proper contraction of "it is," and (2) "independance" is a spelling error, not a grammatical error.
I dig your screen name though.
As long as it is not a content error and it does not distract from the message why do people feel it is neccessary to point this stuff out? This is a blog. We should not have to edit our posts and responses in Microsoft Word just to contritube without being corrected.
A big part of being a Michigan grad is by showing people how smart we are. Even to other Michigan grads.
That actually makes a lot of sense because my Dad is a UM grad and he corrects people all the time and it's super annoying.
Have to get to number 6 before a West division team shows up...
in the B10 in the long-run. I can see Nebraska struggling to attract top recruits going forward. They just do not have have the base. The same could be said for Wisc. It seems to me that on average the following should be the pecking order after UM and OSU.
#3 PSU: Has the reputation, a good couch (for now), and a good recuiting base
#4 MSU; Has a good coach on the defensive side, a decent recruiting base
#5 NW; Has a good academic reputation, a good coach, and decent recruiting base for
#6 RUT; Has a good recruting base and a decent coach (good recruiter?)
#7 NEB; Good reputation and nothing else
#8 Wisc; Had a good reputation as a place to develop OL and RB talent; but will it be last?
Wisonsin has had that rep for a pretty long time. Don't know why we would think it would dissapear unless the coaching change is disastrous. So, I think you're way underrating them.
Penn State's off to a good start of surviving the sanctions, but it's probably going to start hurting them more as time goes on and their depth shrinks. They might be able to rebound quickly and maintain their status as a top team, but I wouldn't count on it.
MSU/NW/RU/UNL are probably 6-5 and pick'em in the long term. I think NW is on the upswing, MSU on the downswing, and RU has a chance to leap up if their recruiting takes off with the switch to the B10, and reputation lasts longer than I think you think it does. So I might order them NW/UNL/MSU/RU over the next 5 years with Rutgers having some upside potential. It also wouldn't surprise me if Iowa got back into that picture.
Gary Andersen who is not a power running coach. If he sticks with the same system, then they should be moved higher.
has never "had the base." Seems to me they'll recruit like they always have, hitting California and Texas hard, and picking off kids from other nearby states like Colorado and Missouri. Maybe that will change they longer they're a part of the B10, but I don't why it would. Three recruiting classes into their tenure, and they still seem to be following that pattern. I agree they will struggle to have classes that compete with M's and OSU's year to year, but over the long term, I would expect them to be at or near the top of that next tier.
With that particular #4 team eyeing them, I also would not expect the good couch to last at PSU
Happy Valley may be a different story.
FYI Nebraska 247, your table shows 2 guys, including Tai Mosley to be a 2*, he is reported to be a 3* on their site.
Furbush is a new 4* on Scout
a member of the Tigers for a short period of time, I still think Charlie Furbush every time I see the name Furbush mentioned.
You posted this and it got upvoted to "5," so maybe I'm crazy, but where do you see this? His Scout profile lists him as a 3-star prospect and the #59 OLB, no? ESPN has him as a 4-star, though.
HAHAHAHA!!! Get'em boys.
Minor note: Vayante Copeland was recruited as a CB/S for MSU, not a RB.
If you add Minnesota, Purdue and Indiana together, Rutgers still has a better, and somehow bigger, class. I still don't know if this makes me want to play those teams more or less though...
Who are some UM recruits that you guys suspect to move up in the rankings? There is a lot of talk from posters on 11W about Parris Cambell and Terry McLaurin moving up and Damon Webb adding a 5th star. Just interested to see who you guys are keeping on eye on.
Pretty much all of them.
In all seriousness, Canteen and Winovich are probably the most underrated guys we have. Possibly Bunting as well. Bunting is a HS WR who is a TE recruit. Plenty of ?? about the kid, but if he can adjust to the new position, he has the athleticism and body to be a star.
I expect Drake Harris will be a 5 star by NSD. Canteen and Watson could climb if their high school team actually plays a full season this fall. Speight seems a bit underrated.