WTKA Roundtable 10/27/2022: An Old Woman With a Broom Comment Count

Seth October 27th, 2022 at 10:42 AM

Things discussed:

  • Respect for MSU's academics and history.
  • Respect for MSU's performance at the 1 yard line.
  • Respect for MSU's performance on 4th and 6.
  • Respect for Jacob Slade and Xavier Henderson, who came back vs Wisconsin.
  • Respect for Jayden Reed. They're not moving the ball with him regularly though. More that they're good at lobbing it up.
  • Disrespect for Wisconsin.
  • Respect for the weatherman, who says it will be good throwin' weather.
  • Disrespect for Michigan's schedule thus far, since they gave them a lot of time to red letter this game.
  • Brian: State can (and will) get all the calls, convert all their low-percentage events, and be maximum annoying, but they're not good enough. It's not a slight favorite deal.
  • NCAA's new NIL rules: Any NCAA rule is just a thing that cheating teams get to do. Seth doesn't like the 2nd piece though suspects there's a carve-out you can drive a truck through.
  • Basketball preview: We go around the league and try to find someone worthy of a tourney run. Illinois maybe? Michigan?

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Comments

Gondolin

October 28th, 2022 at 8:45 AM ^

Yes! Which is definitely not an opinion I expected out of long winded and full of wonderful tangential stories Craig. Alas for poor old Tom. He saves the hobbits from the willow. And the barrow wight! And in between is a whole lot of not advancing the narrative . . . 
 

(I do like Tom but mostly I’m just glad to see him referenced on a football podcast in any fashion)

Don

October 27th, 2022 at 2:21 PM ^

When there is such unanimity among the MGoBlogerati and the general Michigan fanbase that MSU is terrible and laughable and incompetent and we're going to beat them like a drum without breaking a sweat is when I start becoming convinced that Sparty is yet again going to suddenly pull pixie dust out of its ass and play more like Alabama and we're going to sludgefart our way into playing more like Iowa and the game is going to be a close nail-biting affair that can go either way.

dragonchild

October 27th, 2022 at 3:26 PM ^

MSU gets away with a lot, and they'll have their Super Bowl prep for this game, but let's be honest, a lot of Michigan's struggles in this rivalry haven't been "pixie dust"; it was Michigan punching itself in the face.  They frequently look unprepared.  We lost last year because Michigan didn't respect Kenneth Walker III (who's so far averaging over 6ypc in the NFL!) and rolled out a 5-1.  You're going to stop one of the best RBs in the country with one linebacker?  Disrespekt like that will get burned, and should get burned.

Sparty is Little Brother and will always be Little Brother, but that analogy cuts both ways.  When Big Brother goes easy on Little Brother, Little Brother smells a chance and starts biting and kicking and suddenly it's anyone's fight.  That's on Big Brother.

I'm with you.  I've seen too many Michigan State games when Harbaugh and his predecessors approached it like it was any other game.  It's not.  Little Brother will take any chance at stealing the trophy; you have to remain vigilant.  When Michigan goes into this game like they'd steeled themselves for a fight with a bear, they usually win, no matter how much crap Michigan State gets away with.  When they go "aw you're adorable" I get nervous.  And it keeps happening!

Michigan State is bad, and Michigan is good, but Michigan absolutely can lose this game if they start tossing banana peels in front of themselves like they can get away with it.

dragonchild

October 27th, 2022 at 3:54 PM ^

That was another Michigan punch to the face, though.  Blake O'Neill (NTO'N) was one of the best punters in the conference, and I'm glad he wore yellow & blue, and because of the ending people forget he also had an 80-yard punt in that game (so much for pixie dust).  But he was a bit too cocky for comfort; he once tucked the ball on 4th and 17 (!!) or whatever.  He tried to get the punt off when just falling on the ball possibly ends the game.

Yeah, Sparty charged the snapper and the O'Neill crew let it go (or probably were dreaming about toast, who know WTF those jokers were thinking).  There are far worse problems than an ambitious punter.  But my point is that simply respecting Michigan State wins that game.  Fire drill, dive on the ball, game over.  We don't need anyone playing hero to beat these guys.

LeCheezus

October 27th, 2022 at 4:19 PM ^

I’m not pulling this up as an excuse- just relevant data and very interested to see if it shows up in FFFF MSU Defense.  So much is made of Slade and how M couldn’t run last year against MSU.  Michigan’s interior line against MSU last year was Chuck Filiaga, Andrew Vastardis and Karsen Barnhart.  Both Zinter and Keegan were out.  This year we will be rolling out Keegan, Olu and Zinter.  I’d be very surprised if they got pushed around like last year.

97 Over Jimmys

October 28th, 2022 at 7:48 AM ^

Brian is confident bc the probabilities are strongly in Michigan's favor. I also remember the term "boat race" being used in the 2018 Ohio State preview, so sometimes confidence is misplaced.

This should be a cruise BUT Michigan State just got key players back on defense, their only offensive weapons have a knack for high-impact plays, they get a lot of luck in this series, and they bring their best every year (except 2019).

If they play to their absolute ceiling and UM makes a bunch of mistakes, it could be a game. 22-point underdogs win ~5% of the time, right? It's our own psychology that makes 5% feel very dangerous.