This Week's Obsession: Spring Focus Comment Count

Seth

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Show me the Peppers! [Fuller]

The Question:

Ace: Aside from the quarterbacks, which position group and specific player will you be keeping the closest eye on during the Spring Game?

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The Responses:

Seth: Safety, Peppers.

I have a pretty good idea of what the corners can do—Countess can zone like a boss but isn't sized or speedy enough for lockdown press man—and I can't really tell what happens on the OL or DL without video. Quarterback is missing one or two contenders. Where the slot side safety lines up will tell us how aggressive they think they can get, especially when it's Peppers in that spot.

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Also I'm anxious to see who among Dymonte, Clark, and Hill can play when Peppers comes down to nickel. Hill has a bad rap in my brain from getting so turned around against Lippett on the TD pass that debarked the end of the game and the beginning of Dantonio's Revenge for Imagined Slights Hour. I hate it when a bad play is what sticks out to me about a guy and I really want to start banking some nice thoughts. Same for Dymonte and Clark. One of those three or Stribling is going to be at least half a starter in the nickel, and if it's Stribling we are back to a nickel who's not a run defender (ie Countess). The floor on this defense is pretty okay; I want to see how high the cathedral can go.

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Alex Cook: I feel like this is a somewhat obvious answer, but I'll be focused on our secondary, which projects to be the best unit on the team by a fair amount. The offensive line is compelling for an entirely different reason; I'd like to see some breakout performances on the D-Line; QB is a clear concern, of course; but I'm very excited about the secondary.

Jabrill Peppers is the headliner there and, after a freshman year ruined by injury, Michigan fans surely are going to be thrilled to see him out there. He's probably the best player on the team and -- depending on if he plays on offense / special teams units -- he could be the most important non-quarterback on the team. Beyond Peppers, there's Jourdan Lewis, who's very good in my opinion, locking down one of the corner spots; I'm most optimistic about he and Peppers of anyone on the squad this year. There's Jarrod Wilson, who's unremarkable in the best way possible; there's Blake Countess, who didn't play well after recovering from ACL surgery (but could be in for a rebound season); there's Channing Stribling, who stands out immediately because of his size; Wayne Lyons won't be there, but he could start. There's a lot of depth there and if you're looking for a group to get excited about, watch the secondary.

[After the jump: aggresssssssssssiveeeeeeeeeee]

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David Nasternak: Position Group: Secondary. Cornerbacks, mostly, though. 2014 was supposed to be Michigan's transition to press coverage. That lasted for a game...well, effectively, anyway. In 2015, it sounds like the new staff is making another commitment to playing press coverage and I couldn't be more thrilled! However, the results need to be a lot better. With Jabrill Peppers looking like he's moving to safety, it appears that the pressing duties will fall primarily onto Jourdan Lewis, Blake Countess, and Channing Stribling.

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Ways was the buzz of August last year; maybe he'll be this year's spring thing. [via 247]

Lewis probably showed the most competence in man coverage, last season. Countess did not, however, consistently show the quickness to be able to stay with wide-outs right off of the line. Was there still a lingering affect from his 2012 injury? Is man coverage just not his strong suit? Or will he have a strong finish to his Michigan career? Stribling showed mixed results but probably still too small of a sample size to draw a strong conclusion.

In any case, Michigan's man coverage from their corners is going to be vital on defense in 2015. Improvements from last season must be made. One burning question that I do have: If the cornerback play does NOT improve enough and Delano Hill holds his own -with Jarrod Wilson occupying the other safety position- will Durkin slide Peppers back down to corner?

Player: Moe Ways. While I half-intended to put Blake Countess or Delano Hill in this spot (I'll still definitely still be keeping an eye on both of them), I am just very intrigued to see this guy compete. I already picked him as my offensive spring breakout player. While I'm not convinced that Michigan has a far-and-away #1 receiving threat, Ways bring a lot of challenges to any secondary. I've seen and heard some of the plays he's been making in spring practice, and I think that he will be as tough a mark as our CBs will see before the season starts. I'm not only excited to see if Ways continues to impress but also how the much-scrutinized secondary will defend him in isolated conditions.

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Adam Schnepp: If you're looking for a unit to get excited about, do what Seth and Alex and Dave said and watch the secondary. If you're looking for a group to fill you with abject terror, join me in watching the wide receivers. I guess this means I'll also be keeping a close eye on the tight ends (PHRASING), specifically those tight ends who are receivers by proxy (Butt, Bunting, et al.)

Michigan's leading returning receiver is Amara Darboh, who was the target of 21.8% of Michigan's passing attempts in 2014. His yards per target was a respectable 7.1, but his catch rate was a lackluster 53.7%. Jehu Chesson, the recipient of 7.8% of Michigan's targets, had a mediocre catch rate of 58.3% and averaged 6.4 yards per target. Dennis Norfleet had a catch rate of 68.2%, which seems to be about what you'd want for a slot receiver. After that is Freddy Canteen, whose 38.5% catch rate and 1.7 yards per target are far below what I expect from a guy who can do this. With no returning receiver outside of Darboh being targeted more than 10% of the time last season (Jake Butt was next highest at 9.4%) there's a lot of uncertainty and also a lot of room for guys to grow.

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We will accept all the bad Taco metonymy in the world if it's because he's consistently harassing quarterbacks. [Fuller]

This leads me to the specific player I'll be watching: Brian Cole. He's been the recipient of a lot of buzz throughout spring practice; Jedd Fisch said he has great ball skills and makes tremendous plays, and that he's going to be great once he knows what he's doing. I don't think I can summarize my perceived state of the receiving corps better than being really excited about a very young (he's an early enrollee), freakishly athletic guy who doesn't know what he's doing. Also, I'd be lying if I said I won't be watching Jabrill Peppers because I've purchased a first-class ticket on that hype train and it's finally time to board.

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Brian: I'll be looking at the defensive line in order to see what they're going to be doing with it. The site has been riding pretty hard for the idea that a true three-man line is not in the offing against most teams. (Florida did run a lot of 30 fronts against ECU's extreme spread 'em out offense.) I'd like to see if this is a real 3-4 or just a gussied up 4-3 under. As you know, my guess is the latter. 

Individually I'll be looking at Taco Charlton and Lawrence Marshall. Pass rush has been a major weak spot of the defense for the past few years and those two guys are the ones most likely to help. Marshall's been impressive enough to get press conference mentions as the most improved guy from a staff that seems recalcitrant when it comes to specifying things like that. Meanwhile Charlton is a physical marvel who hasn't turned that into consistent production yet. He's always going to be on the verge of busting out until he busts out; if this is the year that happens that would be nice.

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Seth: The thing about the receivers is they're so quarterback-dependent. One of my heuristics for spring is I translate comments about uncertainty at a position coming from the coaches as a bad thing, and with the QBs there's certainly reason to think all of them are probably behind on the playbook that arrived a few months ago. Here's Drevno on the QB competition as it stands:

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Yes it can get to serviceable before Labor Day weekend (yay for Rudock news!). For the expressed purpose of assessing wide receivers in the spring game however this bodes unwell.

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Ace: Well, fine, I'll be the one to say offensive line, for all the incredibly obvious reasons that we certainly don't need to discuss. Given the lineup shuffling, no Graham Glasgow*, and the way spring ball works—the defense is almost always ahead of the offense, unless the defense is 2009-level bad—I don't expect them to blow anyone away, but I'll be looking out for who seems to be adapting the best to the new schemes.

I'll be keeping closest watch on Kyle Kalis, who's getting a lot of practice hype, and Logan Tuley-Tillman; if LTT can be a legitimate option at tackle, that'll go a long way towards ensuring Michigan can throw a solid group out there even if they sustain an injury. One of the harbingers of doom from the past few seasons has been seeing how far behind the second unit has been from the starters, and it's not like the starters have been all that great to begin with; we should see that gap narrow as Brady Hoke's strong offensive line recruiting finally gives this group some depth.

*(I assume? He's been practicing but he's still suspended.)

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Adam: I definitely agree that anything receivers-related is reliant upon the quarterback(s) to the point where it should be taken with more a cube of salt, but if they can't get off the line of scrimmage against the defense's new/old press coverage then I'll know to ratchet my offensive expectations down a notch.

Maybe I'm just blinded by the enthusiasm in Tim Drevno's voice. If Drevno was a hashtag he would be #EUTM. I'm still trying to figure out how best to transcribe his pressers; italics lose their effect if I italicize the whole thing.

Comments

Blue_Masshole

April 1st, 2015 at 2:33 PM ^

I have very high hopes for the defense this year. I don't need leaps and bounds (see: first year under Mattison) but I want respectability. I feel like our offense might put them in some bad situations, so I need a solid defense to help me sleep at night

alum96

April 1st, 2015 at 3:30 PM ^

I am not sure where the defensive hype is coming from, other than Peppers.

I get the better coaching but on paper the defense lost 2 of its best in Ryan, Clark.  Beyer was not great but on at worst about equal to anything we roll out there today.   Raymon Taylor was not great but about the same as a Lyons.

So you replace

  • Ryan with Morgan (downgrade IMO)
  • Clark with Mario O (downgrade)
  • Beyer with someone (Charlton one presumes (flattish)
  • Hill/Thomas with Peppers (upgrade)
  • Taylor with some combo of Lyons/Countess (flattish)

And add presumably better coaching.

It looks like a defensive unit that is going to be flattish with last year.  The upgrades will be the DTs all coming back stronger than last year with experience, and a major upgrade at S.  Also Lewis will be established rather than finding himself at the other corner as he was early last year. 

The wildcards will be if Ross can come back this year after being frozen out so much last year (we basically played Bolden and Ryan in 2 LB sets for 70% of the year), and what we can get out of the DEs.

Net net we lost 2 NFL talents and gained 1 - in house development is going to be important to take a step from last year's D.  And hopefully this D can create turnovers which was last year's D main issue, aside from playing awful defense the last drive of the 1st half!

JoeyFootball19

April 1st, 2015 at 3:32 PM ^

DT alone will make this D better. Mone, Hurst, Willie and Glasgow a year more mature and stronger. Jourdan Lewis a year older, Peppers and Taco. I think the only real loss will see is Jake Ryan. Couple all that with better coaching and more competition=massive improvement.

Blue_Masshole

April 1st, 2015 at 4:00 PM ^

to me, it's not really hype that I am talking about, just high hopes. I was trying to say that I need them to be good, and I do believe the D-Line being able to stop the run better, maybe rush the passer a little more consistantly without bringing a blitz... and Peppers... that should help things a lot. Never mind the overall better coaching for the entire team. I am not saying I expect this to be a top rated D in the country, but I am hopeful we can be respectable and not a detriment

WolvinLA2

April 1st, 2015 at 4:00 PM ^

You can't look at it that simply, or every defense would get worse year over year because you almost never replace outgoing players (especially draft picks) with someone better. The rest of the team will improve some amount just by getting older, stronger and better. So it's very reasonable that our D improves from last season.

Humen

April 1st, 2015 at 2:39 PM ^

Re Drevno pressers, I think some select built in sound bites (built into the article so one click plays) would work well. Could be a thing for all the pressers. Determining the level of gravel in Harbaugh's speech, for example, colors my interpretation of his words... and has led to me trying to run through multiple walls. The Kool Aid guy makes it look easy, AND he's made of class. What's with that? How about airline food (or lack thereof, if you are cheap and fly Spirit)?



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Salinger

April 1st, 2015 at 2:55 PM ^

I have heard almost nothing about Pipkins and was always hoping that he'd turn into the mauler we all dream about. Is he hurt right now, do we know?

 

alum96

April 1st, 2015 at 3:23 PM ^

He has Glasgow who from the "draft" spot seems to be building on last year's breakout ... and Mone ahead of him.  Just never hit his potential and the knee obviously was an issue but even before then I didnt see a DT monster building.  Mone has been more impressive early in his career than Pipkins was - at least to me.  Not a DT expert.

He is basically battling Mone for playing time as a backup right now.  I also see Mone as the man in 3-4 sets but Pipkins might play more in those formations vs Glasgow.  I'll have to see Glasgow's size in the fall compared to Pipkins though.

Ron Utah

April 1st, 2015 at 3:04 PM ^

Can they open holes?  Can they pass protect?

The Hoke era should have taught us one important thing: In a pro-style offense, the team goes as the O-Line goes.  We're only in spring, but has Drevno picked-up where 'Nuss left off (a competent running game) or do I have to worry about TFLs being an official play call again?

We have the bodies; we'll see if these coaches can get them to execute.

I'm not worried about WR, and I'm not sure why we would be.  Poor O-Line and QB play--not to mention scheme--has distorted that position's production.  I believe Darboh, Chesson, Norfleet, Ways, Canteen, and even Jones, Cole, and Dever give us plenty of options.  Maybe there's not star, but there's a competent group there.

RB would be my #2 position to watch...we have talent, but I'm real curious to see how it translates in this system.

DE would be #3...pass rush?

TrppWlbrnID

April 1st, 2015 at 3:07 PM ^

I will be watching the BTN crew and camerawork. Last year was an epic disaster that pretty well portended the season. If they can look even near my high school coach's wife's skills from the top row of the bleachers of various downriver high schools, we are due at least a bowl bid.



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alum96

April 1st, 2015 at 3:18 PM ^

It is interesting to see how Canteen hype has completely disappeared now.  A year ago at this time he was probably the 2nd most talked about guy in camp outside of Peppers due to spring - now an afterthought.  I say that because with the WR worry he is a guy who if is anything near last year's hype can make a lot of that go away.  He looked like a guy overwhlemed and swimming in information (and undersized) last year - so those type of guys can really take a step in their 2nd year.

Of course we always focus on shiny new things so Cole is this year's Canteen.  But last year's Canteen is still here.

I am curious if they have any plans to split Bunting out wide in a Funchess role at least part time. 

It will just be tough to judge these DBs on much as I think the passing game is going to be ....relatively challenged.  So not sure if looking good against them will be that telling. 

I expect the defensive to dominate this, especially with the OL split into 2 units and the QBs still raw. 

Lanknows

April 1st, 2015 at 3:31 PM ^

I'm with Ace here.  Anyone who reads too much into these Spring 'Games' hasn't been paying attention to how meaningless it can be, which goes not only for personnel but scheme.  If Lewis, Countess, and Peppers have good days or bad days it probably doesn't change anything because they are near locks to start.  Stribling will be more interesting, because one thing we can start to discern is if there is depth at positions where we need it.

Secondary: I know some are worried about CB depth, but we have a slew of backup safeties with experience (led by Clark and Hill) that would allow Peppers to slide to nickel/CB if needed.  Plus you have Lyons coming, so even if you lose one out of Lewis, Countess, Stribling, CB is going to be O.K.  It'll be interesting to see what we might have in Stribling, Watson, Richardson, Douglass, etc.

DL: Arguably the deepest and most versatile unit on the team, no matter what alignment they run out.  We have every type of player ranging from massive true NTs (Mone/Pipkins), big versatile NT/DTs (Glasgow), quicker penetrating true DTs (Henry/Hurst), DT/DE tweeners well-suited for either an RVB-style SDE or a 3-4 DE role (Wormley/Godin/Poggi), versatile SDE/WDE (Charlton), and pure edge players that range from WDE (Ojemudia) to lighter hybrid OLBs (Marshall).  Whatever we run, we'll have the personnel for it.

WR: I'll admit to some intrigue related to Brian Cole, but otherwise you kind of know what you have here. A competant but unexceptional group. A small sample-size game won't tell us much about WR, especially with bad QBs. Plus I still remember watching Funchess, Gardner and Darboh make highlight catches in offseason videos.  Lets see someone like Chesson or Canteen get repeatedly open against Countess and Lewis and then I might get excited.

OL: Now this is where things get really interesting.  The top 5 seems locked in, but nobody knows who lines up where (Braden is either a LG or RT, ditto for Magnuson apparently, Cole is probably the LT but seems to be dabbling with OC and without Glasgow...). 

The bigger question is who the competant backups are. Is Kugler close to being ready?  What about LTT, JBB, and Dawson? It is HUGE for this team if any one of them is legitimately on the verge of pushing for playing time.

I would also agree with Ace in regard to Kalis.  Buzz is he is GETTING IT and he's the only guy who seems pretty locked to his position at RG. So yeah, he's going to start either way and one practice game isn't going to change that, but his performance will give us a glimpse into seeing if a unit that his been the biggest weakness on the team over the last 3 years might have made significant strides forward.  If they perform well against a large and solid-at-worst DL, that portends well for 2015.

The other positions with lots of unknowns are H-back and OLB. Will be interesting to see who gets pencilled in there for the fall. 

CoachBP6

April 2nd, 2015 at 5:36 AM ^

I am going to focus on the quarterbacks and the defensive line. Everyone, including me want Michigan to play press man / bump and run. If the defensive line can't generate a consistent pass rush, the secondary will have issues with the press coverage. On the flip side of that, if the defensive line can consistently get after the QB, this defense has the potential to be very, very good. As for the Quarterbacks I wan to see the play calling for each player and what kind of throws these kids are comfortable making. Play calling says a lot about a QB. Any good OC is going to call pass plays to the strength of the QB. I'm looking for how much a QB checks down with a primary receiver still open, whether or not the QB will get rid of the ball or take un-necessary chances, and I'm looking for pocket presence to see who looks more comfortable in the offense. Defensive player I'm watching - Brian Mone Offensive player I'm watching - Wilton Speight