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Brian August 19th, 2020 at 2:10 PM

Content note. NV PG Frankie Collins is committing tonight at 10 PM Eastern.

Also content note, a very visual podcast: If I've met you and you're not from Ann Arbor or environs, it's probably been at an Alumni Association club event. We don't get to do the tour this summer, but some are still happening online. The SF one had a cool idea: turn our event into an MGoPodcast on a Zoom call with the U-M Club of Greater San Francisco, with a Q&A afterwards for members. They're opening it up to the public. It's tomorrow night (Thursday, 8/20) at 8pm EST/5pm PST. $10 for general admission, $5 for AAUM members or students. We will publish the edited version minus the Q&A on the regular podcast feed later.

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. North Carolina shut down and went to all online classes after a week in which they had three and counting coronavirus outbreaks. Notre Dame shut down in-person classes for two weeks after 80 cases. They have 75 more today and have hit 222. Michigan State has gone fully online for the semester. These universities lasted less than two weeks before the Mike Tyson of reality paid them a visit.

None of this is going to stop athletic activities from happening:

UNC announced that the status of campus has no effect on football, which is still scheduled to go forward in the ACC. I've already advocated for putting athletes who want to play in a bubble, which gets a lot more workable with instate point of contact testing and is barely distinguishable from being on campus when classes are all online anyway and people are supposed to be at home if they can. So fine.

I think this makes it even more clear that athletes aren't regular students.

[After THE JUMP: get the green goddess dressing and follow me to freedom]

Kwity Paye is probably opting out. Can't blame him, he's got an NFL future and the situation doesn't seem plausible for folks in that tier of prospects:

Would playing two seasons in one calendar year — including a full NFL season — place too difficult of a burden on his body?

"It’d be a long, long year if I were to do it like that," he said. "That’s something I’d have to take into account."

Of course, there may not be college football until next fall, as the Big Ten has yet to announce details about a potential spring season. In that scenario, Paye doesn't see himself returning to Michigan, considering it will have been 20 months since his last game (the Citrus Bowl on Jan. 1, 2020).

"I don’t think I’d even wait another year to come back in the fall of next year," Paye said. "It’d be more than a year without football. Ah, I don’t know about that one. It’s not looking too good for that scenario.”

I wouldn't expect Nico Collins to stick around either, which would cement him in the top tier of What Are You Doing Throw Him The Ball all-stars permanently.

FWIW, Paye was the #2 DE on the Athletic's recent rundown of the position for the upcoming draft:

Paye put together a dominant performance on last season’s Iowa tape, posting 2.5 sacks. Lined up at right defensive end vs. left tackle Alaric Jackson, Paye pounces off the snap and stays square in his approach, not tipping his hand. He uses a simple one-two move, bursting inside off his second step and using his outside arm as leverage to grease the gap.

Must Improve: Counter timing

While the tape shows his athletic gifts, Paye is not as proficient countering once initially blocked. When he doesn’t win with his initial move, he must do a better job with his set-up and move-to-move transition to disengage from blocks. Paye doesn’t have elite length, which makes his counter timing and punch rhythm that much more important.

One of the rare cases where the NFL draft community seems more enthused about a prospect than fans and the analyst types who follow the team in question closely. I would have pegged Paye as a mid-to-late round guy.

At least it's peaceful. The specter of Big Ten football parents going crazy and respectfully looting a Panera veritably looms!

My "I Am Not Looting This Panera" shirt is causing people to ask a lot of questions already answered by the shirt.

Fine sounds good let's hope it works. Jeff Potrykus is reporting that the Big Ten is looking at a spring schedule that will "start as early as possible" and that UW parents were told that the Big Ten was looking at using indoor stadiums in Minneapolis, Detroit, and Indianapolis. [Obligatory Lions joke.] They're talking about an eight game schedule. Bare minimum would appear to be six—everyone in your division—and then a championship game.

In which firings become poignant. BYCTOM on the departure of Shrek-but-furious Bulls head coach Jim Boylen:

American sports are currently inextricable from the horror inflicting the country, and it is impossible to follow them now without hearing about Safety Protocols and testing rates and insane culture war raging and the same blueprint of incompetence and disregard for anyone's health in microcosm.  On Friday, the Bulls fired their oaf coach.  It had nothing to do with the pandemic, he just sucked.  It felt fantastic.

I felt this very powerfully during the MLS Is Back tournament, which featured a number of skilled acts in a burgeoning league. Quality was on display, and I shoved it aside to drink in the absolute mayhem of ridiculous eighty-yard recovery runs that turn bungled breakaway attempts into own-goals.

I miss the benign stupidity of sports instead of the malicious variety now literally and metaphorically infecting the nation.

They see you. NCAA lobbyists may have bought off Marco Rubio but it doesn't look like many other folks are buying what Rubio and the NCAA are selling:

Murphy and some like-minded senators have introduce a bill that would implode the association if enacted as is:

Their proposal would seek ways to:

• Allow athletes to market their NIL rights in individual deals and group licensing arrangements with minimal restrictions;

• Create revenue-sharing agreements with associations, conference and schools that result in "fair and equitable compensation";

• Develop "evidence-based health, safety and wellness standards" that come with penalties if they are not followed;

• Provide athletes with "commensurate lifetime scholarships" and comprehensive health care coverage for sport-related injuries;

• Increase transparency by mandating schools to provide more detailed reports of their athletic revenues and expenses;

• Ban any restrictions or penalties associated with transferring from one school to another;

• Establish a commission made up of current and former college athletes along with other experts to provide a meaningful voice for athletes in the decision-making process for college sports.

Along with Booker and Blumenthal, at least nine other senators, including Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders and Chris Murphy, signed on to support the bill of rights. Murphy has been one of the more vocal critics of the NCAA in the past few years.

There is likely to be legislation of some variety in the near future. It'll land somewhere between this and the NCAA's "give us an antitrust exemption for no reason" bill. Hopefully closer to this.

SAVE HOCKEY. SACRIFICE ALL ELSE. Michigan lands 4 of the top 17 prospects in Dobber Hockey's preview of the 2021 NHL draft. On Matthew Beniers, the only one of the four who hasn't been extensively covered in this space already:

  1. Matthew Beniers, C/W | USA | 6-0, 168 lbs

Clare McManus: A 200-foot player who can play physical or produce offensively. He is an explosive skater with strong edgework and mobility. With that he can beat defenders in one-on-one situations, but also use his skating to create space for himself, which makes it easy to see his available options. Beniers doesn’t have the most powerful shot, but it is quick and it will beat goalies. In the corners he battles hard and can lay the body on the opposition, but he does need to add some more muscle.

Also, Over The Boards on recent commit Andon Cerbone:

04 F Andon Cerbone (Brunswick) - Michigan

The Wolverines landed what could be their biggest recruit out of prep hockey since first rounder Boo Nieves chose Ann Arbor coming out of Kent. Cerbone exploded onto the scene this year, making a lot of noise in the process. Observers felt his omission from the NTDP roster was something of a snub, as he’s a stand-out cerebral scorer with a ton of upside who proved what he can do against older players in prep hockey this year. The Chicago Steel picked him in the first round of the USHL draft this spring. He was my sixth-ranked prospect for that draft at the time and one of the few players who wasn’t named to the NTDP that is likely to be rated as a five-star in this age group.

Everyone stay inside so hockey can be please.

Etc.: The inspiring story of how one man made Ross County a team filled entirely with guys named "Ross." The USHL is going to try to start November 6th. Two women say they were raped by LSU RB Derrius Guice in 2016, told the school, and the school did not investigate. COVID long-haulers make the prospect of getting this seem even worse than before.

Comments

Chaz_Smash

August 19th, 2020 at 2:43 PM ^

Don't understand why the plan all along wasn't "all football players take classes online, stay away from other students." Why did they think any other plan was feasible?

wile_e8

August 19th, 2020 at 2:53 PM ^

Because doing that admits that student-athletes aren't normal students, and once you admit student-athletes aren't normal students then all the legal arguments behind the student-athlete model and amateurism start to fall apart. So they had to forge ahead with a plan that was doubly stupid because they had to pretend that student-athletes are normal students while pretending there wouldn't be huge outbreaks the normal students hit campus. Sometimes the people charge, yada yada yada

I Like Burgers

August 19th, 2020 at 2:50 PM ^

The thing I wonder about all of these schools sending people home for online schooling after two weeks, is what happens to all of the people that had to sign leases to rent houses/condos and now are just stuck paying for overpriced housing?

Even if you were pretty sure online schooling was going to happen, you still would have needed to find a place to live in case it didn't.

MilkSteak

August 19th, 2020 at 3:45 PM ^

I'd imagine the students will just stay at those houses/condos/apartments for the duration. Schools can tell students "don't come to campus" as much as they want, but they can't tell the students not to move into off campus housing. I know a couple college kids that are planning on doing a fully online school year in the house they signed a lease on pre-Covid.

1VaBlue1

August 19th, 2020 at 3:10 PM ^

The only thing about that 'bill of rights' thingy is this:

"Ban any restrictions or penalties associated with transferring from one school to another"

Doing this is nothing more than unfettered free agency.  Yeah, I get that there should be some space for players to move around, and that it essentially becomes unquestioned professional sport.  But having a player exhaust his college career - seemingly four years - at four different schools seems... not right.  Can we at least pretend that they're in college and limit transfers to one without question, and any others with lost eligibility?

Trebor

August 19th, 2020 at 3:24 PM ^

I am 100% behind sacrificing the football season if it saves the hockey season.

Looking through that 2021 draft list, Luke Hughes isn't coming this year, so I'm not sure I'd factor him in with Power, Johnson, and Beniers. I'd hope that enough would be figured out that the 2021-22 hockey season isn't affected, but I would bank on at least one of Power and Johnson to go pro immediately if they're top-10 picks (Johnson at 12 on this list is the lowest I've seen him anywhere). Beniers seems like the kind of guy you draft high but are willing to stash in college for another season or two because his long term potential is high but some developmental things keep him from being immediately effective at the NHL or AHL level.

Also, it lists Samoskevich as spending the 20/21 season at Michigan, but I was under the impression he's sticking with Chicago in the USHL for another year so he can be the #1 option offensively, if the USHL even plays any games, unlike last year. With him and Duke joining Hughes in 2021, along with the potential to add Adam Fantilli, the next few years of Michigan hockey should be incredible viewing (and also frustrating viewing when the bounces don't go our way).

Packer487

August 19th, 2020 at 8:29 PM ^

But if you don't factor in Hughes bc he isn't coming this year, then you get to mention potential 2020 first rounders Brisson and Bordeleau who *are*! I think the big takeaways are: The 2021 Draft is going to be a commercial for Michigan (they had two other top 60ish prospects on that list too) and the hockey team is gonna be gross this year so Sweet Jesus PLEASE find a way to play.

You're right about Samoskevich. A couple people on Twitter keep posting that he's coming in this year but he isn't and I feel like I've never seen it anywhere that he was. I did see him, Brisson, and Power in person last year and realllllly liked all three of them. 

Side note, I woke up a half hour early today because I had a dream that Owen Power signed with Windsor and my subconscious couldn't remember who held his OHL Draft rights to fact-check that. (It's Mississauga)

I need hockey to happen. 

robpollard

August 19th, 2020 at 4:00 PM ^

I think this makes it even more clear that athletes aren't regular students.

 

Absolutely true. Which is why the B1G cancelling the season while certain schools (cough, Michigan) still plan on bringing back tens of thousands to campus was so stupid. 

The solution to both problems was obvious, but high-minded, right-thinking schools in the B1G went with "if students aren't on campus, we can't play football" which is a statement you *only* make if you are under the fiction that football players are not and should not be treated differently than regular students.

By making two correct decisions:

1) Classes online (tons safer for faculty, staff and the general community; for students, probably just marginally better, as they'll still be partying at their houses on Hill St and their homes in West Bloomfield and Greenwich)
2) Football players stay on campus (as they're doing anyway) and move into a 'high-risk' dorm where they can safely live among frequently tested and monitored individuals...

...you can effectively play "bubble" football. 

But nope.

The B1G, which wants to spend $1 billion-plus on sports, but act like it's above big time sports, has ended up with the worst of both worlds: scrambling to cancel in-person classes (see MSU, and soon Michigan) when it should have been done a month ago and no football because they want to maintain the fiction of purity and amateurism.

kehnonymous

August 19th, 2020 at 4:29 PM ^

So, this is probably a dumb question but heaven knows that's quite on-brand for the forum, but...

What about dance majors?  Anything involving chem labs likely prioritizes in-person learning, whereas Slavic history or linear algebra can probably be online without too much headache.  Music, I'm also not sure about.

Can you possibly teach dance via zoom/whatever?  How much of an impediment is not being able to pan around your student to evaluate them?

robpollard

August 19th, 2020 at 10:57 PM ^

This is about Washtenaw Community College (for some reason, they mailed to my house their "Record" newspaper ; probably as marketing) but it shows how classes, like welding, are handled: face masks, shields, temp checks, spacing, air filtering, instructors staying distant, etc. Nothing earth-shattering, but with planning and discipline, you can do it.

https://www.wccnet.edu/news/ontherecord/articles/2020-08-fallsafety.php

CharlesCarmichael

August 19th, 2020 at 5:34 PM ^

We really need to let some of these kids be on campus and do their thing. They know the risks. I mean, all of those budding soon-to-be-professional engineers really need their senior season on campus to show off their abilities and pull in that rookie contract. It isn't fair to them that they aren't allowed on campus to complete those design projects and demonstrate their abilities to potential teams. I mean, it seems to me that there are lots of problems in the world and the people that are best equipped to deal with the widest swath of them are engineers, and their needs should be prioritized.

Alright, so if this isn't all about money for the universities and the parasites that feed off of college athletics, why aren't people taking about the engineers, or the doctors, or the teachers in this way. We need to stop the deification of athletes and stop enabling universities and the athletic complex from taking advantage of them. Most of all, we all need to stop being selfish and start prioritizing actions that positively affect our community. It would be nice to watch football this fall. It would be nicer if people would stop dying from a virus that can be controlled by simply staying 6 feet away from other people. 

 

My Name is LEGIONS

August 19th, 2020 at 9:12 PM ^

I think they could play a spring season and fall season... Limit practices and the amount to games a non graduating senior can play in to 6 or 7.  They have a roster full of players and it'll force everyone to mix in the backups.  So a guy like Hutchinson would play a total of 12-14 games in 9-10 months, with drastically reduced practice time. This is the equivalent of one normal season.  I don't get people saying it's impossible. It's less taxing on body to play games spread out over one year, than one fall.

And shorten the summer practices too.  This can work.  

Medfordblue

August 19th, 2020 at 10:02 PM ^

NCAA is a dead duck.  Amateur athletics for football and basketball are relics of the 20th century.  School loyalty by athletes and fan loyalty to “our” school will disappear in the next decade.  Schools that can afford to pay the highest salaries will have the best teams. Regular students will have little emotional attachment to their professional teams and their resentment of pros in training taking up space and resources will grow. In the end there will be professional minor leagues.  They or may not be located on college campuses.

youn2948

August 21st, 2020 at 6:21 PM ^

So some schools can literally be only for athletes while everyone else actually has to pay and sit at home.

A terrible hot take but it just blazed into my head.