Unverified Voracity Discloses Spatchcocking Incident
Kwity Paye on current events. Via Orion Sang:
"Being a black man in this country is seen as illegal," he said. "People suspect the worst.”
Paye, the son of an immigrant who escaped war-torn Liberia, was filled with sadness when he learned about Floyd, a 46-year-old black man in Minneapolis who died May 25 while handcuffed by police. …
"We’re protesting against police brutality and at these protests, there’s police brutality," he said. "We’re protesting against them and they’re showing us that they can’t even change. They can’t be for the people."
It begins. Covid screening has picked up seven Arkansas State players and a number of Alabama players somewhere between one and infinity:
Sources: Alabama football has at least 5 players test positive for COVID-19
Sources told BamaInsider on Thursday that as many as five Alabama players have tested positive for COVID-19
All of these cases are asymptomatic. That's good for the players but less good for spreading the disease to people who are more susceptible.
[After THE JUMP: chicken preparation methods I cannot do but Desmond Howard can]
Man can even spatchcock a chicken. I have been banned from cooking whole chickens after the Spatchcocking Incident Of 2014, the details of which are inappropriate to relay in this forum. Desmond Howard, though:
What’s the best meal you’ve made?
I’ve spatchcocked a chicken. I use this Traeger grill that I put it on, and it’s absolutely fantastic. It’s juicy. It’s tender. The skin comes out crisp, too. I put a rub on top of it, and I inject it so the inside is moist, too. It’s probably my favorite way to prepare chicken on the grill.
/kicks rocks
That's part of a long Athletic article from Nicole Auerbach in which Howard describes his recruitment, days at Michigan, and Heisman campaign. Here is an excerpt not about spatchcocking:
So, the infamous Heisman pose you struck against Ohio State. Walk me through the thought process behind that. Had you planned it?
No, I didn’t plan it. That was completely spontaneous. I had never done the pose before I crossed that goal line. A couple of teammates in the latter part of the season, when I became the frontrunner, would tell me, “Man, you gotta do something when you get into the end zone.” I’m thinking, this is Michigan. We do things the Michigan way. I’m not going to do anything except the Barry Sanders, hand the ball to the official and turn around and celebrate with my teammates.
Meanwhile at the Athletic…
Bodes unwell. The Athletic announced layoffs and salary cuts:
The Athletic is laying off nearly 8% of staff, 46 people, according to an internal memo obtained by Axios. … In a memo to the company, co-founder and CEO Alex Mather said that in addition to the layoffs, The Athletic will be implementing pay cuts across the staff, with most people being asked to take a 10% pay reduction for the rest of the year.
Meanwhile, Spencer Hall, Jason Kirk, Alex Kirschner, Natalie Weiner, Stephen White, and numerous others are gone from SB Nation. I am baffled by approximately all of that. Ominous.
The first shoe drops. The NCAA has given Oklahoma State a one-year postseason ban. That's a result of the FBI investigation that implicated a half-dozen schools including Kansas and Louisville, and per Matt Norlander it bodes unwell for the other schools involved:
Breaking: The NCAA has levied a one-year postseason ban against Oklahoma State’s men’s basketball program. This is the first program to receive punishments tied to the FBI investigation. OSU is far from the worst offender, so this is a kaboom.
— Matt Norlander (@MattNorlander) June 5, 2020
The Cowboys got hit with one "Level 1"—the most severe—violation. Kansas is facing five and has adopted a posture of open defiance.
Oklahoma State just recruited Cade Cunningham, the #1 overall prospect in the class of 2020, by hiring his older brother as an assistant. That form of open graft is completely fine, but when Harbaugh hired Chris Partridge it led to a crazy rule that prohibits schools from recruiting players if they hire a high school coach. The NCAA: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The NBA draft will be late, and muddled. The NCAA doesn't really have a choice after the NBA announced that the draft would happen October 15th but announced no plans for a combine. They've set a withdrawal date:
The NCAA announced Thursday that either Aug. 3 or 10 days after a still-to-be-determined predraft NBA Draft combine, whichever is first, will be the deadline for players going through the predraft process to withdraw and return to college.
There is still a chance the NBA will not even hold a combine, which was to be held in May, but was postponed due to the coronavirus threat. If the NBA can't hold a combine or combine-type event until early August, then that would mean any player who participated in that would be in the draft pool for good.
This impacts Isaiah Livers, who isn't getting much draft buzz now but could have impressed. It's unlikely there's going to be any additional data to gather before the draft and thus an opportunity for Livers to put himself in a more draftable spot.
Transfer roulette gets even weirder. Until this wasn't impossible it was completely impossible:
Just in: All-Pac-12 punter Michael Turk will return to Arizona State.
— Doug Haller (@DougHaller) June 3, 2020
He declared for NFL Draft after his sophomore season. Participated in NFL Combine. Signed with agent. Went undrafted.
But ASU appealed to NCAA and got his college eligibility restored.
Arizona State punter went undrafted and was given back eligibility in large part due to COVID-19.
— Dylan Burkhardt (@umhoops) June 4, 2020
Very interesting when you start to consider the impact coronavirus could have on transfer waivers. https://t.co/RlxAiAjVEe
There are multiple eligibility-terminating events in there that we're apparently ignoring now. This is the reasoning, per 247:
Turk was granted this waiver due in large part due to the COVID-19 pandemic preventing his participation in pro days, team visits or in-person workouts ahead of the draft.
Pretty thin since Turk participated in the combine. The NCAA's waiver process remains an enigma, a black box of wonderment and randomness.
I don't have time for this guy. UNC's athletic director is mad as hell that the NCAA isn't… uh
North Carolina athletic director Bubba Cunningham warned this week that athletes would be professionalized if current name, image and likeness legislation is adopted, a move he said would be against the core of the NCAA mission.
The AD of the school that had its accreditation come under question because of an entire department of fake classes athletes took advantage of at disproportionate rates is worried that the NCAA might be departing from its mission.
Exit Connor Levis. Levis signed with the WHL team that drafted him last year. That was Michigan's wobbliest commit—Levis had attended multiple camps in Kamloops. Further attrition is always possible, but Michigan's other top-end commits in 2020 are sheltered by the NTDP.
Etc.: That guy who let 70 protestors into his residence is a Michigan grad. College football coaches on their experiences with the police. Pitcher Isaiah Page's TikTok gets an article from Yahoo.
Spatchcocked smoked chicken? Damn, Desmond Howard is legit
He uses a Traeger though. What a casual. /s
Maybe it's because I'm in an apartment that doesn't allow for grills, but I'd kill to have a Traeger
Same here, but we asked the property management company if the Bronson by Traeger is ok and they approved it.
Maybe he actually does do that, but that entire paragraph is basically ad copy for Home Depot, who is Game Day's primary sponsor.
Why wouldn't he do that? Spatchcocking chicken is a very common way to cook it on a grill. And pellet grills are mega-popular right now. I don't doubt that he got his Traeger at a discount, for reasons, but there's no reason not to believe him.
BTW, if you want to cook a whole chicken, spatchcock that thing and put it over indirect heat on your grill.
Whether he does or not, the point is that I guarantee that article was pitched to The Athletic so that Howard could read off his ad script for a high-margin item at the store that bankrolls his TV show. Even if he does make that, it doesn't make it any less of a native ad.
I've spatchcocked plenty of times without even knowing I was spatchcocking. Great way to make chicken.
As a rather uncouth individual, this is the first time I've heard of spatchcocked chicken. But I'm already smitten.
Also, continued UNC hubris regarding the notion of amateur NCAA status is rather laughable.
Spatchcocked roasted chickens and turkeys don't look as traditional/pretty coming out of the oven but you're more likely to get a good result doing it - since the legs and the breast get cooked to different temperatures, you're likely going to end up with some part somewhat overcooked (i.e., drier) cooking them as is, but spatchcocking recipes seem to solve the issue and make it likely that they finish at the same time.
Chickens since they're smaller are a little easier to get right even traditionally, but the spatchcocked turkey is a revelation.
And then putting on a grill is another world altogether... Gas grills are okay, but don't add much. Pellet grills give some light smoke flavor, and are insanely popular right now. But charcoal/wood... That's where all the flavor is. If you can manage the temp on a charcoal grill, nothing you cook will taste better.
Bubba Cunningham is the most on-the-nose name for a fat (I assume), southern athletic director. It can't possibly be real. Makes me think of this:
You know, especially now, you would think people would stop stereotyping. Bubba was born in Flint and played golf at Notre Dame. And as a former student athlete, his opinion is worthy, even if it's different from yours.
Your points are valid. But OP's point is also valid - the guy running UNC's AD has zero space to speak about 'student' athletes until UNC owns up to their outright cheating and failure to instruct their 'students' via real classes (even if online).
Yeah, I know the AD when that happened resigned, and Bubba wasn't there. But it doesn't matter - Bubba's voice on the integrity of 'student athletes' is forever silenced until UNC comes clean.
I feel for all the sports media people losing their gigs right now. Most of them are great!
Unfortunately I think this is just the beginning at The Athletic. No sports right now aside they're on the same investor- and expansion-driven sports media path we've seen before.
Salute to Kwity. Will be cheering for him even harder.
Ahh, no. C'mon, Kwitty. Am I the only one who saw the police try to quell arson, looting, and shooting? Were there many examples of peaceful protesters being brutalized by the police? The police were held back by the local governments until things got out of hand, which wouldn't have happened in most places in the world. Think about what it was like back in Liberia where good people had no protection from mobs, rebels, etc. Actually, the anarchy in the streets of American cities may be similar to what you left? Please try to objectively look at the whole situation and do not get caught up in the mass media rhetoric. Most police in America (many minorities) are good human beings trying to protect all citizens, white, black, brown or yellow and it is overwhelmingly rare that excessive force is used. And most law-abiding people in the inner cities are glad that they are there
Yes, I was appalled by the Minneapolis killing, too. Yes, there is still racism in America that needs to be addressed.
Think about what it was like back in Liberia where good people had no protection from mobs, rebels, etc. Actually, the anarchy in the streets of American cities may be similar to what you left?
I'm willing to bet hes thought about what it was like in Liberia more than you have. Have you been to Liberia? Or are you just getting caught up in the mass media rhetoric about what's it like there?
I also saw police taking a photo-op when a white senior citizen protestor tries to return their helmet back, the cops proceeded to knock him over giving him a serious head injury in the process. The WORST part is they just walk over him as he's motionless bleeding from his ear. The only person to stop and check on him happened to be from the military/NG. That speaks volumes.
Enough w/ the lip service.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFeewU0HhNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCISe83UUgI
Edit: Craziest part is they all resigned in solidarity for the 2 officers who pushed the guy. Fam you can't make this up.
*Resigned just from the task force. Not their jobs. They still are making sure they get paid.
Watching the video, it didn't appear like he was trying to return one of their helmets to me. Looks to me like he walks up to them, waves his phone at the first officer's coms then the second officer's belt and gets pushed, stumbles backwards and falls.
He's a known local activist that approached the police after curfew. Portraying him as a white senior citizen just trying to return their helmet to them seems a little disingenuous.
And what you fail to mention regarding the officer's resignation from their voluntary Emergency Response Team positions is that prior to the mass resignation, their union said they would not pay for any of the ERT or SWAT members' legal defense costs for anything related to the protests. That may have played a roll in the officers' decision.
Have you really missed the ad nauseum video clips of peaceful protesters being assaulted the past week? That's to not even mention the deliberate targeting of journalists that's been happening nationwide. It's not isolated.
The people who are against these protests don't care about those clips. They are so entrenched in their beliefs and that this is some organized Antifa riot that no number of videos of police brutality against peaceful protesters will change their mind
Have you been living under a rock? Get your head out of your ass
wow...
"Were there many examples of peaceful protesters being brutalized by the police?"
Maybe you should ask this 75-year old guy lying on the pavement with blood coming out of his ears when he gets out of the hospital. Don't bother asking the cops standing over him, though. He's got all the relevance of a squashed bug to them.
Were there many examples of peaceful protesters being brutalized by the police?
Just spend a few minutes on this twitter TL:
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1268386210373918725?s=20
Or here we have LAPD shooting a homeless guy in a wheelchair with rubber bullets:
https://twitter.com/lilyslynch/status/1268890164757172225?s=20
Of course then we have random MAGA lunatics threatening peaceful protestors with chain saws:
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1268999762411499528?s=20
"Please try to objectively look at the whole situation and do not get caught up in the mass media rhetoric"
Oh the irony of this statement.
Despite what Fox News has been showing you, the vast majority of protests have been peaceful. There have been some people taking advantage of the protests in bad faith, but using them to discredit all protesters is moronic
Actually, Jethro, there have been scores of incidents in which cops brutalized unarmed protesters. There's also been many instances in which police used overwhelming and disproportionate force to clear protests -- the DC incident being only the most obvious. I was at a peaceful protest that turned ugly only after heavily armed cops boxed unarmed protesters into a suffocating mass that provoked panic.
Regardless, his doesn't make all cops bad -- virtually no one is making that case. What they're saying is that there's been a massive and well documentic epidemic of police brutality in this country, most of it directed at black people. To suggest otherwise is to be at best willfully ignorant and at worst an outright racist.
And I can barely even stomach your suggestion that Paye should be GRATEFUL to now live in a country where cops brutalize people only somewhat less brutally (which I'm not sure is actually true). You are the picture of white privilege. You are the problem.
What the fucking fuck? It's not only local police departments attacking peaceful protestors, it's also the federal version... All for a photo op in which he looks absolutely miserable to just be standing there.
BTW it's time for Mark Esper and Gen Mark Milley to go away. We don't need the CJCS in full battle gear parading around proudly beacuse his forces beat back peaceful protestors. And we don't need the Sect of Defense turning our cities into battlespaces that need to be dominated.
Am I the only one who thinks Kwity’s comments a bit hyperbolic?
I mean I get it. He’s upset and rightfully so, but in the context that Brian mentions he’s from worn torn Liberia just seems a bit much.
You're not going to be the only one who thinks that. Which makes it even more wild that you and those who agree with you think that maybe the young black man with intimate knowledge of a war torn developing nation and also an intimate knowledge of being a young black man in America might be hyperbolic.
I'm not saying you haven't, but I'm curious if you have tried to see this through his eyes. Just try to imagine what it's like to be him. Because me, a middle aged white guy from a relatively comfortable background in a rural community, can't possibly imagine what it's like to be him. I've tried to understand it. I just can't. So I take him at face value when he shares his perspective, because it's the only way to begin to understand what his life is like.
Well ok then. My wife is a POC immigrant who came from what was at the time considered a worn torn South American country (there’s even a Netflix documentary on it now). Half of her family is here in the US under asylum. And I’m sponsoring her brother and family to come her soon.
I’ve had several conversations with my wife and in-laws about their experience and most recently their experience in context of what’s going on now. They all unanimously said it’s much better here for them. And I’m guessing Liberia is much worse.
So yea, I’ve put myself in someone else’s shoes. But it doesn’t mean I can’t dispute or ask a question. And I’m not necessarily knocking Kwity. Just that comparing anything here to worn torn Liberia is a bit much IMO and you can lose credibility. Because if push came to shove he would much rather stay here than go back to Liberia.
Statistically you're more likely to be murdered in the U.S. than in Liberia.
Per 100,000 people, the U.S. murder rate hovers around 5.2-5.3.
Liberia is consistently around 3.2.
The most recent data is 2019 (LINK) but I found Liberia data going back to 2012 and the rate is virtually unchanged. (LINK)
This is an interesting statistic. I believe police brutality is a serious problem today although statistics suggest that is declining. It is also interesting that police brutality is not the cause of the high US murder rate.
Liberia is war torn.
What's USA's excuse?
I was in Kwity’s shoes, somewhat, one day 25 years ago. My African-American friend invited me to attend a sort of church service in downtown Detroit. They were hosting a well-known preacher from LA, Grace Jones‘ brother if I recall correctly.
It was me and 4 African-American grad students from UofM. We parked the car and started walking towards the venue. I realized I was the only white person in a crowd of ~1000 black people. My initial reaction was a feeling of discomfort. This was not intentional. It was just my inherent response. I was different. I really shouldn’t have been uncomfortable at a church with friends, but I initially was.
I think my friend picked up on that and gave me a smile to let me know I was going to be OK. The lasting memory I have from that evening is the mind-opening realization that black people have to deal with situations like that EVERY DAY of their lives. Blacks make up a small percentage of the population. When you factor in segregation (for whatever reason,) it becomes apparent that many black people often find themselves in situations where it’s natural to feel like they are the outsider, they are different. That is not easy to deal with from my very limited experience. Heck, I felt different being the only white person in a Chinese banquet room of ~300 people.
So if you have a chance to be nice to a stranger, whether that’s with a smile or a simple hello, go for it.
Are we protesting police brutality ? A lot of people seem to be protesting a supposed entire system of racism and cops murdering black people.
Im all for protesting police brutality. But America is not broken and in 2020 blacks are not in any increased danger, other than from people in their own communities. There are very real problems with struggles the black community faces. But we have so grossly misidentified those problems I fear they won’t be fixed. All these white liberals making blacks to be victims fuck you. By saying how hard and disadvantaged blacks are YOU are the racist. Blacks are more than capable. Now the inequalities in crime rate and cultural issues like absent fathers, need to be addressed. How can we solve those issues ? But trying to solve the issue of cops murdering blacks will be impossible, as it does not exist.
It's impressive you were able to claim you are against police brutality and then spend a paragraph regurgitating the tired, factually incorrect bullshit people who don't think police brutality is a problem. That's really the only interesting part of your tirade, as you couldn't even keep the charade up for very long.
"Charade" is exactly the right description.
Police brutality is a problem. Studies showed Mexicans and blacks are more likely for a cop to be physical with them. But cops are a problem for everyone as they are uneducated, undertrained, and not checked themselves. But The data also shows that cops are not more likely to kill a black person than white. In fact, a white person is more likely to be killed by a cop than a Black person ! The left is purposely telling a false narrative to make blacks victims. You see, the white liberal plans to control blacks by forcing them into victimhood. If I’m wrong about that, someone explain to me why whites are killed by cops more in terms of both totals deaths, and also on a per encounter basis ?
Total deaths is easy, there are 6 times as many white people in the US as black people. You'd expect 6 times as many deaths, which there isn't.
Data I'd like to see analyzed is how death rates compare to violent crime rate. Asians are 1/3 as likely to be killed by a cop as a white person. I don't think that's because cops are less racist against Asians than white people... There are just less Asians in poverty, which leads to less crimes, especially violent ones, being committed.
This isn't saying police brutality isn't a major issue, it is. I'm saying by committing a violent crime, you are putting yourself in a position where police are likely to be more hostile towards you.
I’m not sure about Asians. But like I said in the last post, the rate per incident of police shootings is higher for whites people than blacks. So to be clear, in instances of police interaction during a crime or alleged crime, whites are more likely to be shot by police than blacks. That’s not to absolve police of wrongdoing. That is to absolve police of killing blacks due to racism.
And it is this enabling, excuse-making, minimalizing and rationalization that is most disappointing and hurtful...and impedes real progress. We have to do better.
The statistics as I understand them suggest that unarmed black people are ~3 times more likely to be killed by police than whites, on a per capita basis. If you then correct for the number of incidents that occur between police and suspects, I think Gucci Mane is correct.
Two of my female friends admitted to me this week that they felt more comfortable jogging when it’s dark when police are around.
Police brutality needs to be addressed, but this “defund the police” notion is absurd.
Last year some argued for arming teachers to combat school shootings. Most argued that is absurd. But that is exactly what would happen minus police. Defund is not the same as reduce. Perhaps police budgets should be reduced and their urban warfare tactical gear needs to be eliminated. But a society without police is a liberal fantasy and an anarchical reality.
You're basing your whole view on police and racism on one questionable statistic?
How well do you think stats are kept on interactions? What are the per capita rates of interaction for blacks and whites? Do you think, on average, the interactions are the same with whites and blacks given different poverty rates?
What about stats on deaths by unarmed vs armed victims?
You’re jumping to conclusions based on one comment?
The fact you Capitalized "The data" but didn't provide a link is illuminating because, I suspect, you couldn't find any that shows cops are as likely to kill white people as black people. Now, there IS A LOT OF EVIDENCE that POC are physically accosted and killed at a far higher rate at the hands of the police compared to white people. Again, argue your dumb anti-liberal bullshit lines if you want, but stop acting like they have the underpinning of fact.
There is data out there although it's not easy to find. WaPo compiled data which might make you question your assumptions. Just look it up.
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