One Last Blind Stab In The Dark Comment Count

Brian

rich-rodriguez_p1 Jim-Harbaugh goat

Let's make a deal.

Saturday Michigan takes on Mississippi State in the Gator Bowl and Sunday something may or may not happen involving the throttling of an infant Denard Robinson in his cradle and the tears and lamentation that may or may not result. That would hypothetically also mean the reign of terror Greg Robinson's hair and the zombie minion that goes by the name of Greg Robinson would be over. The city of Ann Arbor emerging from its cocoon of upper middle class ennui to shoot AK47s in the air would at least partially offset the tragic, still hypothetical loss of baby Denard. I have taken too long on this bit.

Two days later Jim Harbaugh and his Stanford Cardinal take on Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl. After he may or may not be destined for Michigan or the 49ers or the moon. The latest from Harbaugh is reminiscent of one Brian Kelly last year:

"I only talk about the job I have now," Harbaugh said when asked if he or his representatives had spoken to the 49ers about their coaching vacancy.

He acknowledged having a "dual focus"—

WHHHAAAA?

--on his team, which will play Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl on Monday, and on his daughter, Katherine, who was born just before Christmas.

Aw, come on, Harbaugh.

So what's going to happen? I still don't know. No one does. Last time on this show I said I didn't have anything solid and probably wouldn't because of the nature of the "search" but that the mystical aura wasn't looking so hot:

I'm not inclined to put much in the widespread chatter that had RR out the door after the OSU game and seems to be continuing since its sourcing seems to be pissed-off-you-guys folk clearly unhappy with the state of the program taking small interactions and interpreting them as they desire. However, the vibe I'm getting from other people who seem to be on the fence about what to do—or at least close to it—also makes it seem unlikely Rodriguez is back. Emphasis on all the qualifying words in the previous sentence, please. I've got nothing solid because no one does.

I also said that Brady Hoke would be named Michigan's coach over my dead body and the last semblance of sanity in the universe but that wasn't based on inside information. It was more a "has everybody gone CRAZY!?!" moment, and if the threat of Hoke didn't linger in the air I'd apologize for it. As it is I'm on the battlements with an axe* waiting to behead anyone who pops up and says "my name is Buh—." Bill Parcells is duly warned.

With less that a week left before the month of limbo is over, I haven't received anything that pushes my opinion much one way or the other. To reiterate, that's:

  1. There is a nonzero chance Rodriguez is fired, otherwise there would have been an announcement.
  2. Schools do not start coaching searches on January 2nd.
  3. There's only one guy out there that could plausibly be socked away or all but in time for Michigan to have a reasonable finish in recruiting and could justify yet more chaos in a program that is pointed in the right direction, even if vaguely.

So it's Rodriguez or Harbaugh and we'll probably know the day after the Orange Bowl. With all due respect to people who would argue otherwise, it makes no sense to fire Rodriguez in January if you do not have a coach lined up immediately. Since the list of people other than Harbaugh who Michigan could install within a week reads "Buh—[blood theatrically spraying from neck]" your alternatives are between rushing someone through without pause for consideration—which worked out so well last time—or dragging the search almost up to Signing Day, leaving your recruiting class a smoking crater and possibly dooming the next guy, who will forever be Not Jim Harbaugh, to repeat the cycle.

I have heard some things that push me more towards Harbaugh:

  • Some connected guys at Cal email that Tedford is aiming to poach Harbaugh's OL coach since he has "agreed to go elsewhere already" as of the 17th of December. Caveat: the Cal rumor mill bears no animus towards Rodriguez but would love to see Harbaugh anywhere but Stanford, so as things get passed down the chain they get more certain.
  • A player who split his career between RR/Carr years tells an emailer that Harbaugh will be installed on the fifth. Caveat: why the hell would some former player know?
  • An emailer who reports things second hand but has been reliable in the past suggests that Mary Sue Coleman isn't a big fan of Rodriguez, which isn't much of anything to go on but just adds to the pile.
  • Media people I talk to generally say the best thing is probably to give him one more year but that they don't expect he'll get it. Also not much of anything but vibe.

The only thing pointing the other way is the generally sunny disposition coming from within Schembechler Hall, but with recruits the coaches are saying they've got no idea what's going on but if they're still around after the bowl they'll still be around forever, or something to that effect. That's a hard sale right there.

If I was 55-45 Harbaugh a month ago I'm 65-35 Harbaugh now. I wish I could be more certain and wouldn't make the decision I think is likely if I was king of the world, but that's life. We'll know soon enough.

AWFUL BONUS: If there is a change you can go start the Denard transfer watch at DEFCON 2, since Robinson knows what he is—the Big Ten offensive player of the year as a sophomore at quarterback—and where he fits. How screwed up is a program that manages to get both Ryan Mallett and Denard Robinson to transfer away from certain starting QB jobs in the course of three years?

This hasn't happened yet. Breathe. I am talking to myself mostly.

*(To avoid a Tucker Carlson moment let me clarify: I am not going to cut Brady Hoke or anyone's head off with an axe.)

Comments

maizenrage

December 30th, 2010 at 2:49 PM ^

Shame if RR is fired. He is showing improvement throughout his years here, Yes, the defense is horrible and the offense is great, but a coach should be measured by wins. From 3 to 5 to 7 IMO is improvement is it not? Im afraid the choice has been made already to fire RR. You dont completely evaluate a program in a day (after Gator). If he wanted RR here he would have said so already....

 

Cheers to a new coach and another 3 years of losing  :/

Logan88

December 30th, 2010 at 4:09 PM ^

I am still surprised that people can point to the 3-5-7 win progression as "progress" when the 2005 season, in which UM "only" won 7 games, was the "Year of Infinite Pain".

UM won 11 games in 2006 and 9 games in 2007, so RR still has not even gotten back to the level UM was at when he took over. That is not progress.

MGoGolf

December 30th, 2010 at 2:55 PM ^

IMO, it's not so much Brandon, but rather Harbaugh, who "knows". 

If we agree with Brian that it is either Harbaugh or RichRod (and I do), then I have to believe Brandon has already extended an offer to Harbaugh.   I also believe Harbaugh won't formally accept until at least January 2, if not January 4 or later, given the legalities of the RR buyout and respect for Stanford and its bowl game.  Until a contract with Michigan is inked, Harbaugh can go anywhere (i.e. even if he's given a verbal indication to Michigan, he could change his mind until the day he signs).  Thus to me,  it's currenlty all up to Harbaugh and not Brandon.  Given his new baby, a big bowl game, and presumably offers from college and pro, his head has to be swimming.

My brain tells me Harbaugh and my heart tells me RR, and I sort of hope that Brandon is merely setting a standard and preserving the right to keep his options open late into the season, for all future years. 

trueblue262

December 30th, 2010 at 3:31 PM ^

but, If anybody had any questions about how much he wants to be at Michigan. If he comes here, those questions should be put to rest given that the guy could have gone anywhere.

And for the record, if Harbaugh comes, I am worried about losing ANY players to transfers, but the one I am most worried about is Gardner

uminks

December 30th, 2010 at 3:48 PM ^

Will one more win next season over this season be enough, or may be we finish 7-5 again because the defense did not improve enough. We will be in the same place next year that we are this year! Unless RR does not make a bowl next season, I would say his 5th year will be his best year.  Then I would expect wins over MSU and OSU, along with 9 or 10 wins. The defense will be about as good as it will get under RR in 2012. If he still struggling after the 2012 season, I would say yes, the RR experiment has failed.

Section 1

December 31st, 2010 at 1:23 AM ^

with something less than two and one-half of his own recruiting classes, and that for much of the time he'd be laboring under a concocted NCAA investigation, I don't think there's a person on this blog that would have been happy with that.  Wait; I think I've read some posts by people who are happy with that. 

M-Wolverine

December 31st, 2010 at 2:04 PM ^

If you had said after 3 years we'd have a losing record overall, losing record in the Big Ten, and not have beaten MSU, PSU or OSU even once (and have losing records to Purdue and Illinois), after they got doing telling you  you were crazy "because year 2 we'll win the Big 10, then win the National Championship every other year thereafter with Rich's offense and Michigan's name", and realized you were right, they'd be pretty unhappy.  And some wouldn't question why he only got 3 years, even with all that other stuff.

ST3

December 30th, 2010 at 4:36 PM ^

and if Harbaugh wants to come to Michigan, what in the HELL is keeping him from getting started? A G_d damn BCS bowl? Really? 30 years from now, he's going to look back on his career and say, boy I loved coaching UofM, but I wouldn't trade that BCS bowl at Stanford for the world. Give me a break. If Harbaugh wanted to come here, and Brandon wanted him, it would be done by now. Let's look at the big picture. One bowl game versus the rest of his coaching career. Yeah, I can see him sabotaging the future so that he can enjoy a bowl game. Sheesh. If DB hires JH on the 4th or 5th or whenever, I'm slinging that gorilla feces from a few topics ago. I don't think DB is that dumb. That's what's getting me through these tortuous last few days of 2010.

The way I picture the JH situation is that he pretends to be a student of history (that's what he wanted to go into before Bo's staff pushed him into some easier program, according to Jim). One of the oldest lessons of history is that you can't go home again. Not to get too religious, but Jesus was thrown out of the temple in Nazareth. He started a world-wide religion everywhere else. The other item I keep thinking about is that he doesn't want to compete directly against his brother. Think of the tennis-playing Williams sisters. I think that keeps him in college, or if he does go to the NFL, it would be west coast and NFC (San Francisco anyone?) where he would have the least chance of meeting up against his brother.

wolverinehusker

December 30th, 2010 at 4:53 PM ^

Remember the firestorm that erupted when Rich Rod told his players, before their BCS bowl game, that he was jumping ship? Not only did that tarnish his national reputation, but it was a big slap in the face to a program that had only done good for him. I would be DISinclined to respect a coach who, after expounding the virtues of teamwork/integrity/etc., says before the biggest moment of some of his 20 year old players lives, "sorry dudes, I found a better offer." 

Regardless of whether Michigan is where JH wants to be, sullying his reputation should not be a required part of the deal. Who wants a coach like that anyway?

kscurrie2

December 30th, 2010 at 9:42 PM ^

I would tend to agree with you, but you have to remember RichRod went to WV so it was even more bitter. JH went to michiigan.  I agree, if he were coming to michigan, he would be here.  His players have to know that he his looking elsewhere, what does it matter if he already has a destination.  Brandon is trying to have his cake and eat it too.. this will end in disaster.

kscurrie2

December 30th, 2010 at 9:42 PM ^

I would tend to agree with you, but you have to remember RichRod went to WV so it was even more bitter. JH went to michiigan.  I agree, if he were coming to michigan, he would be here.  His players have to know that he his looking elsewhere, what does it matter if he already has a destination.  Brandon is trying to have his cake and eat it too.. this will end in disaster.

ST3

December 30th, 2010 at 11:24 PM ^

Bill Frieder was going to take the ASU job after the season, and Bo found out about it. Bo shit-canned his ass so fast it made Frieder's head spin. A Michigan Man was put in charge of the Michigan Basketball team, and we all know how that ended up. If Jim Harbaugh is still a Michigan Man, why is he not here working on recruiting and building the Michigan football team? I'm sure Stanford has a capable assistant coach who can lead the Cardinal in their bowl game.

I Wrote a 4 Wo…

December 30th, 2010 at 2:59 PM ^

How screwed up is a program that manages to get both Ryan Mallett and Denard Robinson to transfer away from certain starting QB jobs in the course of three years?

 

That is insane. I haven't even thought of that before, but that would be absolutely ridiculous. I'm in the camp that thinks Mallett was gone no matter who was coaching, so I don't think him leaving was RR's fault, but it'll boggle my mind if we fire RR now and lose Denard.

htownwolverine

December 30th, 2010 at 2:59 PM ^

I just want a coach who is backed by the AD 100%. RR or JH. I like RR and I like JH. I do think one more year of RR would have alot of naysayers jump on the bandwagon.

However, at the same time I think that JH is savvy enough to adopt his offensive style to his players. As for the defense, well JH has to start over anyways so no worries there.

Now let's go beat MSU and then back our coach.

MGlobules

December 30th, 2010 at 3:08 PM ^

the best football mind of my generation, a truly fine person (whatever the fools think) and coach who was a season away from great things--as in epically, epochally great-- 

for an insufferable you-know-what who had almost exactly the same record at Stanford over his first three seasons,

one or two seasons MORE of adjustment, and

winning but boring football that is unlikely to match up to the ridiculous impatient fan expectations that brought about Rich Rod's premature end (assuming 10-2 seasons in a newly reconfigured B1G is magical thinking, nothing more).

I will also harbor dark, vaguely political inklings about what has come to roost in A2, the great town of my high school and college youth, in Lloyd and Rich's stead.  

The upside is that I will spend more Saturdays with my daughter. . . at least for the two years it takes the equally impatient Jimbo to decide that life might be sweeter in the NFL. Then we will be on to the next adventure, wondering--as we listen to bad piped rock n' roll and watch the sky emblazoned with bad paroxsysmic advertising for geriatric products, what the pizzaman has wrought. 

I will, however, have enjoyed these several great years among the fine cyberpeeps of Mgoblog.

Fuzzy Dunlop

December 30th, 2010 at 3:20 PM ^

the best football mind of my generation,

Oh, come on.  Overstate things much?  A few really good seasons in the Big East = the best football mind of your generation?  (Setting aside the fact that all of his innovations are on one side of the ball).  I don't want to come off as a Rodriguez hater, but that's hyperbole of the highest magnitude.

a truly fine person (whatever the fools think) and coach who was a season away from great things--as in epically, epochally great-- 

Again, if it was so clear that we were one year away from "epically" great things, we wouldn't be having this discussion.  7-5, barely eking out wins over Indiana, Notre Dame, UMass and Illinois, getting blown out by all decent teams, is not an indication of being a year away from the greatest team in history.

for an insufferable you-know-what

Now you're just being a prick.

who had almost exactly the same record at Stanford over his first three seasons,

Words can't describe how sick I am of this meme.  While the records were similar on the surface, each of Harbaugh's first three years involved wins over ranked teams (including USC in his first year), and Stanford was ranked #19 at the end of Harbaugh's third year.  Plus, it is historically more difficult to recruit at Stanford than Michigan.  No honest person can say that the respective performances of Stanford and Michigan in the first three years were equivalent.

winning but boring football

Have you ever watched Stanford play?  They're not "boring" by any means.  And in any case, most would prefer winning football over exciting, losing football.

 

To be clear, I'm agnostic on a coaching change, agree Rodriguez has been treated shabbily, and think the team will improve next year no matter who is at the helm.  But the things you said were so ridiculous that they needed to be called out.

Thrillhouse

December 30th, 2010 at 3:34 PM ^

I saw the best football mind of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked,
dragging himself through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,
angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,
who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of cold-water flats floating across the tops of cities contemplating jazz

uminks

December 30th, 2010 at 3:34 PM ^

I agree with your points but I don't think our young defense will grow up enough to win more than 8 games.  The defense will surely be headed in the right direction next season but will they be good enough to be over .500 in the b10 conference next year? Will the defense be good enough to defeat MSU on the road and OSU at home?  Given a great DC hire, this defense will be good by the 2012 season, and with the offensive skill players being seniors, watch out, this team will be a top 10 team come 2012.

M-Wolverine

December 30th, 2010 at 4:41 PM ^

It'll be here after Rich; whether that's January 4th or 2020. And it'll be here without you if you're not along for the ride. Again makes me wonder how many are fans of a man rather than a program. They were going to lose you at some point anyway. (And interesting considering all the yelling of loyalty to the old ways and coaches, and the call of more acceptance and love of the Team, now that the shoe might be on the other foot).

MGlobules

December 30th, 2010 at 5:20 PM ^

I come from three generations of M grads and the Michigan doesn't come out of me that easy, you presumptions to the contrary. I will/would find it easier to head out with the kid on nice afternoons rather than squirm through every play as I have the last few years, though. And with no worries some noodle could question whether I was loyal to my school or not. 

GunnersApe

December 31st, 2010 at 9:22 AM ^

He wanted to retire after 2006 but Bill begged him to stay or somthing along those lines, I'm sure some better poster can bring fact to that statement. Bottom line LC had job security for as long as he wanted to coach.

As much as people bitch about Rock,Rock,Rock. UM was balanced, offense, DEFENCE and S.T., unlike today w/ a shiny O and nothing else.