the fist of summary [Bryan Fuller]

The Last 2020 Recruiting Take Comment Count

Brian October 1st, 2020 at 11:30 AM

Last year I did a What I Learned post about the 2019 class after that set of recruiting profiles was completed; now that 2020 is done let's reprise. I've gone over every scrap of information and highlight video; I've even scouted a couple full games when information on a prospect was frustratingly thin, or used Adam and Dave's Future Blue Originals/Derivatives.

These are my takeaways.

It's a B+ class

There's a lot of consternation about the lack of truly top-end prospects in this class, and it's understandable. It's nice to have guys like Rashan Gary and Jabrill Peppers around. This class does not have a single composite top 100 prospect. 2019 had 3, including two five stars; 2021 has 3, including a five star. I don't think it says a whole lot other than it was a weird year.

On the other hand, there are almost literally no fliers. If JD Johnson had not been forced to retire, thus paving the way for Dan Villari to get a Signing Day offer, the lowest-ranked guy in the class would be #513 Kris Jenkins. That's just outside the 3.5* range we use to designate players who are high three stars pursued by a large number of mid-to-upper-level P5 teams.

The previous class, which ranked first amongst Big Ten teams, had seven guys ranked lower than Jenkins. Five of them were below 750th. The 2021 class also has some deep cuts. So while the 2020 class doesn't have much of a top end it is uncommonly deep.

This is something I said on Signing Day. Doing the profiles reinforced that take because various guys in the back half of the class jumped out as good bets. Jeffrey Persi is a Greg Frey tackle. Cornell Wheeler has Ron Bellamy travelling the state to yell at people about how good he is. Matt Hibner's composite ranking is held back by ESPN and Rivals, who missed his incredible fitness montage. Roman Wilson… yes, he is in the back half of this class. I know.

This isn't a class that's going to shift the paradigm against Ohio State but what does that even look like? If we judge it by the standards of other recent Michigan classes it's solid.

[After the JUMP: stocks up, down, and shruggie sections]

Stock up gentlemen

I became distinctly more enthusiastic about a few different guys:

  • RB Blake Corum: Annihilated the best high school competition on offer, and did so as a darting interior runner with great vision. Individual game scouts reveal a guy with very little High School Crappe to coach out of him. Short but not tiny, which is great for running backs. Already 204, which should be playing weight.
  • OL Zak Zinter: Appears to be a straight up recruiting W against Notre Dame, which is possibly the best school in the country to beat out for a guard. Post speculated that Zinter was listed well under his actual weight, a speculation that came good when the updated roster listed him at 334; that size recontextualizes the scouting quite a bit. Post didn't want to compare him to Mike Onwenu but if he's 334 and looks like he does the comparison will be hard to escape since they're both super-dense guys with adamantium bones or something. 
  • CB Andre Seldon: Seldon is tiny, which held back his rating for a long time, but when he showed up at his All Star game he drew universal praise and got significant bumps up the rankings. If there was a spot where his height would be exposed that was it; it was not. Meanwhile he has everything else you want in a cornerback, and did almost literally everything he could to seek out top opposition and defeat it. I went in thinking he'd be a nice nickel and came out thinking he could be Will Likely or Antoine Winfield.
  • S Jordan Morant: Highlight film is full of situations he shuts down in the open field with aplomb. Drew the kind of Jabrill Peppers comparisons that are credible because they are specific. Tackles like Jordan Kovacs. Has not put up good 40 times but has a killer shuttle. Major foot injury is a concern.

I guess you could put Roman Wilson in this category too, but it's not like the things that make him an appealing prospect need a whole lot of dissection. Dan Villari is also worth a mention since I went in thinking he had no shot at being a QB and found a guy with enough athleticism to throw off-platform and pick up rugged rushing yards. Still a longshot, but that's better than no shot.

The flipside

A few guys didn't seem to have the scouting to back up their rankings:

  • DE Jaylen Harrell: Harrell is reputed to be an Uche sort of guy. He did not have the eyepopping scouting Uche did (despite the fact Uche was outside the top 1000 on the composite) and his ranking is heavily dependent on ESPN leaving him in their top 200 as the other sites dropped him into three-star range. Harrell started the cycle as a top 50 player, so this is a situation where ESPN's rank-and-forget approach is likely to be inaccurate.
  • LB Nikhai Hill-Green: Early returns from inside the program are already disputing my skepticism here so take it for what it's worth. Hill-Green was barely scouted and when I went back to look at St Frances's win over IMG I discovered he was platooning. He got the second and forth quarters and went the wrong direction a lot. I mentioned Mike McCray and Desmond Morgan. Now apparently he's beating RJ Moten, about whom more in a second, in races?
  • CB Darion Green-Warren: Green-Warren's scouting is littered with references to middling athleticism, which is about the last thing you want to hear about a cornerback in the aftermath of a couple of debacles against OSU. Green-Warren is also praised for having really advanced technique for a high school guy but the specter of crossing routes looms large.

I'm also nonplussed about Eamonn Dennis as a cornerback. Dennis's high school tape is almost literally all offense and while he's a verified fast guy his shuttle isn't where you want it to be for a 5'10" corner. Moving Dennis is a logical decision given the state of the roster and he's not exactly overrated since he's a three-star. It is a thing that you do because you have some issues in the secondary you're scrambling to fix.

Boom or bust

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McGregor is the subject of takes [Dave Nasternak]

The guys who could be anything:

  • DE Braiden McGregor: Wildly divergent camp takes. Rivals dumped on him when he went to their camps; he was the ALPHA DOG or close to it whenever 24/7 saw him. Rivals ranking is outside the top ten in the state, because Rivals doesn't want to project Midwest recruits down the road. Senior year knee injury prevented a final verdict and was also the variety where you're concerned it might be a long-term issue. I have a distinct take here—he's going to be very good—but he's one of the more controversial croots in the region.
  • LB Kalel Mullings: Beset by injury that limited him to four games as a sophomore and junior. Healthy senior year was spent playing a lot of offense. Needs a ton of work to be an inside linebacker but pretty close to playing weight already so his speed and fluidity are likely to translate. Caris alert: a year younger than most of his class.
  • S RJ Moten: Dual-sport athlete who put up a 40 inch vert at 200 pounds. Mostly played offense in high school and spent a lot of time becoming a single-digit-round baseball prospect. Has already generated buzz inside the program that he is an eyepopping athlete. He is also very, very raw as a safety.

Morant could also fit in this category because of the foot injury.

Sleeper of the year

The criteria for this award has changed as the ranking industry has grown and shrunk; for the last few years it's been restricted to composite three-stars.

Kris Jenkins is the pick. Jenkins's ranking is (relatively) low because he's a guy who projects as a defensive tackle and is listed at 240 pounds. His genetics and frame mean that shouldn't be a long term issue, and then you've got a guy who has shown the ability to fire out low and batter people. He was benching 350 a year ago, and that'll only go up.

William Mohan, the viper nicknamed "Apache," was a close second. Vipers are always strong candidates for sleeper slots because the sites usually see them as NFL tweeners and 24/7 is explicitly looking at draftability when they rank. I too have a success bias here: the depth chart at viper is a much harder climb than the one at DT.

The recruiting sites were this close to putting Roman Wilson in three-star territory—he is #354 and the last four star is #373—and barely prevented the most emphatic windmill dunk of a sleeper pick in site history.

Comments

Denarded

October 1st, 2020 at 12:03 PM ^

I see this class as a better version of 2018. Multiple solid floor/smaller ceiling players, sprinkled in with high potential guys like Persi being the 2020 version of Jalen Mayfield, Hibner:Schoonmaker, Mohan:Barrett.  

Seems like the staff's plan in 2018 and 2020 were to get more program guys that will stay the full 4-5 years. After Mayfield leaves for the draft it looks like they will still have 17 of the 20 commits still here. I think 2020 has much better skill players and secondary players, but seems like the even years are program-centered years, while odd years are "shoot for the stars" years. Could just be a coincidence, but it is interesting. 

TrueBlue2003

October 1st, 2020 at 8:07 PM ^

Agree and whether it was the plan or not, that's how it turned out.  And I'm fine alternating stellar classes with solid classes.  That's enough talent (provided we get back to the DLs of Harbaughs early days which were built on three and four stars so it's doable).  Only thing keeping Michigan from being a 2ish time division champ and playoff participant has been QB and coaching.  The former is bound to turn around and the latter might have halfway through last year.

michengin87

October 1st, 2020 at 12:21 PM ^

I think you need to add about 10 good players each year to maintain or upgrade the talent of a team.  In this class, it looks like we think that we'll get 4 very likely and then roughly 7 that could go either way.  So, that says that we'll probably end up with about 7 in this class that really make a difference.  Fortunately, this comes after a year that should have about 12 strong contributors based upon very early returns or strong projections.  Hopefully, 2021 looks more like 2019 which is how we think it will play out, maybe even better.

So, based upon the evaluations, this class is probably closer to maintain than upgrade, but it's also fortunately sandwiched between strong classes in 2019 and 2021.

bronxblue

October 1st, 2020 at 12:42 PM ^

Good write-up.

I'm of the mindset that Michigan is unlikely to consistently "out-recruit" OSU as presently constituted; you can't hope to create another Death Star.  But if they can pull in classes with a lot of solid depth and maybe one or two headlines, those seem to pay off more often than not.  And even the guys with question marks don't seem to have unknown issues; DGW being a bit slow was the knock against him from the jump, for example.  Compare that to your Aubrey Solomon, Kareem Walker, or Derrick Green recruits where the warning signs were a bit more ominous.

 

Blake Forum

October 1st, 2020 at 1:24 PM ^

Under Harbaugh, Michigan has a stellar record with guys in that 3.5-star/low 4-star range that includes dudes like Roman Wilson and Zak Zinter in this class. Craig Ross did a nice job outlining that in his long piece a few months ago. It seems like when Michigan gets on a guy early and is able to convey that they value him more than the ranking service, their hit rate--both in terms of landing commitments and turning them into good players--is among the best in the country. Does that fully make up for not landing as many 5-stars as the schools we aspire to be? Probably not, but it is a nice thing to have going for you.

JonnyHintz

October 1st, 2020 at 1:46 PM ^

Ideally you’d have both. A high hit rate on those 3.5-4 star guys to make up the core of your class and sprinkle in a couple top 100 guys. That’s how Clemson built their program to the point where they can now recruit with the big boys. That’s what Michigan will have to do to get there as well, but Clemson had the luxury of only competing with FSU on that level to establish conference dominance and even then they’ve fallen off the map since then. While Michigan is competing with multiple B1G programs on a similar level and going against OSU who is in another world right now. 

UM Indy

October 1st, 2020 at 1:44 PM ^

Can’t “shift the paradigm” against Ohio State until we take the players we have (regardless of individual or class rankings) and beat them on the field. Period. 

schreibee

October 1st, 2020 at 3:45 PM ^

Combo reply to Jonny & Indy:

Comparing M crootin to Clemson leaves out a few pretty salient facts:

As you noted, they have very little competition in their conference blocking them from making the CFP annually. In addition, players that ultimately did pick Michigan have said they turned down better offer$ from Clemson. 

As for "shifting the paradigm" vs osu:

The one fact that never changes, even in osu's rare down periods, is that they are the only P5 school in a larger, more football talent-laden state than Michigan. That's a powerful built in advantage! 

On top of that, their down periods are pretty damn far back in the rear view, and imagining them ever returning is pretty difficult in these increasingly lax times.

So out-recruiting them is a monumental task in the best of circumstances, and the last decade (or 2) have certainly not been the best of circumstances!

A table was published this week of the fewest avg number of Ls/ season over the last 5 or so seasons. If I recall correctly 5 of the top 10 were B10 teams.

So without even reaching too far for excuses, that's a tough row to hoe for Michigan to recruit at the Clemson/osu level.

Still, gotta get it done with the players we do get, right?!

bacon1431

October 1st, 2020 at 3:46 PM ^

Really worried about CB if at least one of DJ Turner and Perry aren't good. 2020 class we have Seldon. Like Brian, I'm skeptical about Green-Warren's ability to play against the top athletes. I like McBurrows in 2021 class, but with the pandemic and him never seeing campus yet, who knows if that commitment will stick. I know we are in on some 2022 recruits and that's encouraging but those guys wouldn't be on campus til 2022....in which case we could have two years of only Gray and Seldon being viable players at CB. 

schreibee

October 1st, 2020 at 4:07 PM ^

I don't share the negativity about DGW. He was a star & captain on a powerhouse team. 

Which isn't to say he'll definitely beat out Dax or Gray or even Turner or Seldon for a CB spot, but just to say he'll be better than you're describing should he be needed.

I just think Seldon & Dax need to be shutting down crossing routes & pick plays to maximize the talents on hand, which means taller CBs covering the deep routes. Such as DGW!

Gondolin

October 1st, 2020 at 4:04 PM ^

Blake Corum has so much muscle on his 5' 8" frame that BMI classifies him as obese. Barely, but still. 

Edit: The top level of the roster page has him at 200, but the full bio section has him 193. The above was calculated with 200lb

Snazzy_McDazzy

October 1st, 2020 at 10:45 PM ^

I'm shocked Jeffrey Persi didn't get more love. Talk about a guy with a high ceiling. Kalel Mullings has the smart and the character to become a good one. Age is also on his side as well. But I had a hard time gauging his athleticism on tape. Hopefully the hype is real.

Jordan Morant looked like a freak with a nasty streak but he isn't the classic 6-2 with 4.4 speed kind of athlete. That makes me curious to see how his career ends up. In the same vein, Darion Green-Warren looks like a stud to me but he doesn't fit a classic mold at cornerback so I'm not sure what his career projection looks like. Fifty bucks says Andre Seldon finishes his career on the outside. He has long arms, terrific athleticism and is destined to have great technique as well.

And I guess I'm the only one who thought NHG flashed on tape. He has a burst and a violence to his game that portends well if his intangibles are also elite.

Collateral Whiz

October 2nd, 2020 at 4:06 AM ^

You're right that Morant looks and plays fast on the tape.  However, he didn't test that well as according to 247 he has a 4.74 forty, which I think is why he's ranked 165th in the country as opposed to top-100.  Hopefully he is one of those guys that processes things quickly allowing him to play faster than his measurables indicate.  

Edit - derp, noticed that I misread your original post as soon as I hit save, so realize my response looks stupid now.  I'll leave my original message here to get negged.  

Snazzy_McDazzy

October 2nd, 2020 at 11:13 AM ^

I could have been more clear. You can see by watching Morant's tape that the guy is thick and has very long arms and moves really well for his size. But he's short and his straight line speed may not be ideal (I don't think his 4.74 time is necessarily gospel). We tend to put guys in narrow boxes when judging athleticism. And that's understandable since we do want tall safeties who run fast in a straight line. But Morant is still a physical specimen. Michigan just has to figure out what to do with those tools.

Braiden McGregor is a little bit the same way. I didn't see a lightning quick first step from him. But he's so fluid and coordinated and his closing burst is so impressive that it just feels like he'll be able to figure things out (a la Aiden Hutchinson). 

Collateral Whiz

October 2nd, 2020 at 4:01 AM ^

Roman Wilson, Blake Corum, AJ Henning and Braiden McGregor are all top-100 talents in my eyes even if they're not rated properly.  So, I'm quite pleased with this class other than the lack of numbers at defensive tackle.