Our fanbase and recruiting
Well, Rich got ripped a new one a few weeks ago by some who objected to his suggestion that the negativity in our fanbase was hurting us on the recruiting trail. Well, I certainly wouldn't think it has helped us here... Bye Dee, would have loved to see you share a backfield with Denard.
Any objections? Neg away...
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:38 PM ^
It's double-edged sword. It certainly works both ways.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:38 PM ^
im starting to really hate us ... all of us.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:39 PM ^
Any impact by the fanbase on recruiting is likely dwarfed by the impact of RR's own boss (Brandon) refusing to commit to his future.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:05 PM ^
.....without the fanbase acting like a bunch of children, he wouldn't be expected to say anything in the first place.
Don't worry. We are now ND. We are Notre Dame.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:22 PM ^
....and with that, a thousand rapping Tucker Carlsons descended upon AA.
No one is safe.
December 3rd, 2010 at 2:55 AM ^
Dude, I get that you're one of the True Believers, but seriously - any coach who posts a losing record over three years is going to be under scrutiny. Fans had nothing to do with it.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:09 AM ^
7-5 isn't exactly a losing record.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:47 AM ^
To the conq'ring heroes, HAIL, HAIL, to Michigan the Champions of the West.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:55 AM ^
He said "losing record over three years" so he doesn't have to acknowledge we've improved each individual year.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:12 AM ^
I think we should have free negs. Because, I have no idea who the trolls are anymore.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:18 PM ^
I do think that the original problem traces back to the fanbase. Who is clamoring for change? Who is starting 100 threads about Jim Harbaugh or Stanford. Dave Brandon hasn't said a single thing about Stanford or Harbaugh to date. Were our fanbase not clamoring for RR's head on a platter, it would likely be much easier to cite improvement and retain him. While all evidence suggests that Brandon hasn't handled the situation well, you cannot make the situation independent of how pathetically spoiled our fanbase has acted this season.
December 3rd, 2010 at 2:51 AM ^
No, the original problem is that Rich Rodriguez has gone 15-21 overall, 6-18 in the Big Ten, 0-3 against OSU, 0-3 against MSU, and 0-3 against PSU. Just about every non-Michigan fan I know thinks we'd be crazy to keep him. Most of the media essentially thinks the same way. Many of our former players want him gone, too. The notion that the fans somehow created a controversy out of nothing is absurd.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:53 AM ^
We are rebuilding! Of course his record isn't going to be that great yet. The fanbase is acting like a bunch of spoiled brats. Citing only the record without seeing the youth on this team is just dumb.
Sure there are many uninformed fans that are unhappy because of the record but there are also many people who have never embraced RR from day one. It makes our fanbase look completely terrible. Comparing the Michigan fanbase to the Notre Dame fanbase is incredibly accurate at this point. Very depressing....
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:04 AM ^
I am a life long Michigan fan and recently a season ticket holder. I am discusted and angered at our fan base. Jmblue, you are the problem, not the solution. Why in the world would any recruit want to come and play with all the rediculous negitivity surrounding the program that has been created by a clueless fan base. The recruits we have commited want to play for the current coaching staff in place, why in the hell would you be surprised that any of them would decommit when so many of you tear the coaching staff down daily. I dont give a flying rip about the numbers. We are on the right track! But all you haters want to start over from square one with a new system and a new coach and new types of players. You people are idiots and are only digging us a bigger hole. Jim Harbaugh is not a savior and you people are crazy if you think all these Stanford recruits are going to follow him here. We all thought that the season would end around 7-5 with the talent we had. So why now are we so flipping surprised at the outcome? I hate to tell you folks this but MSU, OSU and Wisconsin were very very good this year and they all had productive seniors. We had almost no seniors but we will soon if our fan base doesnt run them off. I am sooo pissed that the very thing I love most is being destroyed from the inside out. Support the coaches and the team or get the hell out! We are on the verge of something great if some of you don't destroy it.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:59 AM ^
I just talke to a friend over Thanksgiving weekend who actually played a year for Virginia Tech before getting injured. He follow college football a lot.
He was literally shocked that Michigan was even considering getting rid of RR.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:39 PM ^
Only Dee Hart knows that for sure, but I would bet that the decision had more to do with the (in)action of the U-M Athletic Director than anything the fans did.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:47 PM ^
Do you really think Dee Hart may potentially decommit because of Dave Brandon? So, basically, you're saying that if DB would've fired Rich by now, that would've firmed up Dee Hart's commit? That's crazy.
Stop blaming Dave Brandon for where our program is today. He inherited the entire athletic department only a few months ago and now he is assessing the state of our football program right now. I haven't been a huge RR fan as of late but I do think DB should consider every relevant detail of the football program before making a rash, uninformed decision.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:49 PM ^
No, that's not what's been said. If Dee Hart is going to stay committed to Michigan, even if RR were to get fired, then DB's decision to evaluate after a bowl game wouldn't matter. If Dee Hart is concerned about job status, then yes, a perceived uncertainty will negatively impact our chances.
All that said, I still don't necessarily blame DB, he's a former CEO, he's been on the football team, and he offers a unique perspective (Far superior to any of us.)
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:59 PM ^
I guess it's hard for us fans to understand what type of decision DB has to make right now. We're living and dying by the day, and sometimes minutes, with new news regarding our team. I would imagine DB instead is much more focused on the next 5, 10, 20 years of our program. Regardless of who our coach is, I just hope this decision helps to lay a solid foundation for our program for years to come.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:44 PM ^
I will go out on a limb and say that he is screwing this up big time!! He is not 100% to blame, but he's getting there. The problem is people that want RR fired will say that he is not recruiting top talent. Players will not commit to this team unless they know who the coach is. Plus D. Hart was enrolling early so he need to know sooner than later.=. DB saying that this wait will not affect recruiting is borderline ignorant.. it will have a huge affect on recruiting especially early enrollees
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:09 AM ^
Now I'm just defending DB. But he essentially said that there is no good or bad time to make a coaching switch with regards to recruiting. A lot of people took that out of context and believe that DB doesn't think there is a bad time to make the decision and as a result recruiting won't be affected. That simply isn't true.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:08 AM ^
You are 100% correct. Dee Hart was to be on campus next month, I'm sure he would like to know who his coach is going to be, I can't believe this is being handled so poorly.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:58 PM ^
I am not sure exactly why Dee Hart is going to decommit, but my point is that it likely has more to do with uncertainty in the head coaching position than anything the fans have done. Dee Hart may have decommitted because he thinks Ingram is going pro, or two ugly losses down the stretch made him think twice.
That said, I do suspect that Brandon sees decommittments, the inevitable transfers, etc., as acceptable losses necessary to change direction of the program. If that's true, I am not sure he's handling the transistion particularly well, and I disagree that it's needed in the first instance.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:32 PM ^
seriously, who said anything about a transition?
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 PM ^
Actually he was officially the AD as of March 2010 thats more than a few months ago.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:06 AM ^
I stand corrected. He took the job... 6 months ago. And, the football season only ended 6 days ago.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:50 PM ^
You would only neg this if it offends your insatiable love for rabbits, or you are part of the Kabal and this irritates you. How many of there are you? We'll find out...
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:52 PM ^
Is that GERG's rabbit? I though he used a beaver on the sidelines?
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 PM ^
a rabbit, this is why he now has a beaver.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:40 PM ^
If so where did he say it was because of fanbase negativity?
Link?
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:42 PM ^
Stayed out of the fracas tonight for exactly this reason. All we have are a bunch of sources saying he's likely to decommit and commit to Alabama tomorrow. No reasons given although I'm sure they'll be forthcoming.
No point speculating on who's at fault (if anyone is) until he speaks. For all we know, he decided he preferred warm weather and being with his friend.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:41 PM ^
But what do you propose, that the many michigan blogs and espn and GBW get shut down?
Fans will be fans.
Also regardless of mgoblog, i'm sure dee hart knows the insecurity of rich rod's job when sportscenter and pti and commentators are all commenting on it.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:21 PM ^
No, what I am suggesting is that fans of Michigan start acting like fans and support the TEAM. Enough of the entitlement. Stop pretending you have a say or that your opinion counts. The level of personal attacks that some Michigan fans have stooped to make me embarrassed to even be associated with them.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:42 PM ^
Seriously. I sometimes feel like saying F this fanbase. More than half of them have no idea what the hell is going and are becoming the most fairweather fans in the world. I would love more than anything to see RR succeed royally and just shove it up the RR haters ass. That said Go Blue.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 PM ^
I would love to see RR shove revenge up my ass as well. Wasn't that supposed to be this year tho - Rich Rod revenge tour!!! oh...wait...the team still sucks complete ass.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:50 PM ^
Then stop being a fan. Trust me, no one here is going to miss you much.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:08 PM ^
Thanks Champ! You da man!!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 PM ^
I say F are fanbase every home game!! We have 112,000 fans at a game, more then half are stuck up alumni, sippin coffee, talking to there friend about the LOUD guy a few rows back, nd checking there 401k in the middle of a tight game, when the house should be rocking!!! If your mad at me for this, them im probaly talking to you
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:01 PM ^
Which concession stand are you work in?
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:05 AM ^
I think over the next five years RR is going to have a damn good record as a head coach, probably averaging 9.5 to 10 wins / year.
That's gonna happen whether he is at Michigan or not. If he does get fired, I will be rooting for him every game, unless its against Michigan.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:43 PM ^
If Dee Hart decommits it's not because of a bunch of fat losers on a blog, it's because the team sucks and can't be competitive with good teams. He doesn't need us to tell him that he can watch us get our ass beat EVERY SATURDAY ON TV. Unless we're playing Purdue, then he'll see us squeak out a win against a horrendous team.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:46 PM ^
Listen, my mom just came down to the basement and handed me a hot pocket because, and I quote, "Women don't care if you have a couple extra pounds if you are a nice guy." Man, she's the best!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:50 PM ^
God I hope this true. This is awesome.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:22 PM ^
This is exactly when it sucks that I am old and have no computer skills. I keep seeing the Will Farrell scene in Wedding Crashers (I think) where he is yelling fo Ma to bring him food. Would love to insert it here.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:36 PM ^
Thanks for helping an old man out!
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:47 PM ^
Yeah, we got beat every Saturday...except those seven Saturdays which we won.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:14 PM ^
No need to put blinder on now that the season is over... a few of those wins were not pretty or encouraging at all. A lot of us think next year will be much better, but this past year... not so much.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:21 PM ^
No one is saying we were good this year. M16 stated we lost every single Saturday. Which is a load of horseshit.
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