October 28th, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^
October 28th, 2017 at 4:31 PM ^
Exactly. Now you're getting it. Good job.
October 28th, 2017 at 4:34 PM ^
October 28th, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^
Yeah, just like he didn't change anything against Rutgers.
October 28th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^
October 28th, 2017 at 4:31 PM ^
He played better than O'Korn today and he would've played better than O'Korn vs MSU.
Would NOT have taken a lot to change the outcome of the Sparty game.
October 28th, 2017 at 5:24 PM ^
I feel same way and this start against this team instills confidence especially if its followed up against the next two weak, but better teams. JH was playing the long game, while also giving a senior his shot and not rattling a rookie. Outside of the MSU loss our record is where I thought it would be. JOK earned the MSU start and that game woulda been tough for a first time start and BP doesn't beat PSU.
BUT... Quattro you've been hating on the play peters squad on various threads for weeks, saying bring mccaffrey would be next. well JOK and BP played the same team today and it was crystal clear who played better.
October 28th, 2017 at 4:50 PM ^
Does Peters spot MSU 3 TOs by himself? Doubtfull. He doesn't do that and we win the game.
October 28th, 2017 at 5:06 PM ^
October 28th, 2017 at 4:03 PM ^
Peters has been stepping it up being more vocal towards the end of camp. Harbaugh is very loyal to his starting Qb and gives them every chance to do well. Its better to not have started Peters last week, but it just goes to show you that a simplified offense like we had today works well when you have a qb who can hit passes.
October 28th, 2017 at 5:03 PM ^
There was a lot of bad turnover luck against MSU, so that's a game with a different QB that could have seen a different outcome.
Penn State was a blowout regardless.
October 28th, 2017 at 4:01 PM ^
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October 28th, 2017 at 4:07 PM ^
But if he makes a big play for every big mistake he makes, I'd be satisfied because with O'Korn it was really just mistakes in the end. For a few weeks it seemed like those simple 9-10 yard passes that every CFB team routinely executes were outside our reach. Even if Peters throws picks or the odd errant throw..it feels like a semblance of a passing game is on the table now.
October 28th, 2017 at 4:07 PM ^
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October 28th, 2017 at 4:25 PM ^
So he could have done much better...he WAS better than O’Korn but we aren’t grading on a curve.
October 28th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^
Once again, he had a 169.4 QB rating roday. We don't need a curve. He played well.
October 28th, 2017 at 4:52 PM ^
October 28th, 2017 at 5:19 PM ^
Not from me it wasn't. I said from the start that JOK was not good and that Speight was decent and cool under pressure. I have always said it was a bad move bringing JOK here. I think Peters is the best QB on the roster and McCaffrey is #2. Then Speight. I can't say on the others because I've never seen them play. For all we know Malzone could be okay. Can't trust that he isn't just because he hasn't played here. That ship has sailed. Not only that but look at Iowa State's QB. If you saw Gameday you saw how it works sometimes.
October 28th, 2017 at 8:42 PM ^
The ups and downs from a RS Freshman is much more understandable than from a 5th year senior. JOK was making mistakes someone of his age shouldn't have been making.
October 28th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^
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October 28th, 2017 at 4:54 PM ^
if the rutgers player makes that easy INT, things look a lot less rosey. Even less so if he returns it for 6, which was very possible.
October 28th, 2017 at 8:48 PM ^
So M wins 35-21???
With JOK in there, I wasn't 100% sure M was going to win. Watching him play, it's like his brain turns to scrambled eggs on passing plays. He may possess the physical tools, but I don't think his mind can process everything a QB needs to in that short a time period.
When I watched BP, I could see he was actually going through progressions. That alone gave me hope. Everyone in the stadium could see the difference. Heck, the team seemed to notice. There was a lot more energy on the sidelines and in the crowd as M started making plays it wasn't making before.
Things are rosey because progress is being made. We haven't seen a whole lot of that this year, at least on the offensive side of the ball.
October 29th, 2017 at 3:11 AM ^
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October 28th, 2017 at 4:46 PM ^
8.9 YPA is pretty dang good given the comparisons.
October 28th, 2017 at 5:27 PM ^
If, if ,if. Let's be clear. He had the highest QB rating of any Michigan QB this year so far. In his first game. He did fine.
He will make a lot of big mistakes in tougher games. That is to be expected. But for today, he had only 4 incompletions and it was a dumpster fire until he came in. We dominated after that.
October 28th, 2017 at 6:52 PM ^
October 28th, 2017 at 8:23 PM ^
Defenses will see that he can get confused by disguised coverages, because that's on film. They'll be doing that a lot starting next week. They'll test to see how he does against pressure--Rutgers didn't dent the pocket much, and we know our OL is vulnerable to blitzes. Can Peters make the right read when pressure is disguised?
Sooner or later Michigan will get off schedule and Peters will have to make some tough plays. He may struggled in those situations, even if he is on track to be great.
And, as you said, people will go crazy if they have their expectations set improperly. It will be back to insisting that Pep Hamilton or Tim Drevno or Jay Harbaugh are absolutely the one reason that the team is bad. Or that this is a problem dating back to a regime three coaches and two athletic directors ago, or something. When, in fact, it's a RS freshman QB who doesn't yet have the playbook mastered and can't yet make all of the reads.
I think Peters was very encouraging, but I agree with almost everything you say.
October 28th, 2017 at 9:15 PM ^
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October 28th, 2017 at 10:41 PM ^
come on
"some pretty bad throws including the TD to Evans"
you mean the slightly underthrown touchdown pass?
if that's what you're seeing, there's no point in arguing the rest
October 29th, 2017 at 2:12 AM ^
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October 28th, 2017 at 4:09 PM ^
October 28th, 2017 at 4:54 PM ^
Not sure JOK has taken his last snap. Hopefully Peters stays healthy and plays well, and earns the right to finish the season. JOK delivered the Purdue win at the very least.
October 28th, 2017 at 4:10 PM ^
Peters said this in the locker room after the game: "I saw man coverage, one-on-one with Chris," said Peters. "I wanted to give him a chance to make a play and he made a great play on the ball." O'Korn HAS NEVER SEEN man coverage, because he literally cant spot that kind of thing. Refreshing to have a QB who can see coverage before and while it happens.
October 28th, 2017 at 6:49 PM ^
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October 28th, 2017 at 4:17 PM ^
Peeps were calling for O'Korn to replace Speight before the Purdue game? Uhh. I dont think so. If there were calls for O'Korn to replace Speight, they were few and far between. Before the Purdue game, all of us still remembered how O'Korn played at home vs Indiana last year.
No, no, no. We may have been too gitty about O'Korn after this year's Purdue game, but no one called for O'Korn to replace Speight this season. Once O'Korn became a turnover machine during the Sparty game, EVERYONE was calling for Peters to replace O'Korn.
October 28th, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^
October 28th, 2017 at 4:53 PM ^
i think there were 20.5 threads for starting Peters.
October 28th, 2017 at 5:21 PM ^
October 28th, 2017 at 5:29 PM ^
i think they were a thing, only
October 28th, 2017 at 4:34 PM ^
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