copacetic

June 28th, 2017 at 12:01 PM ^

Rockets needed cap space to sign CP3, CP3 could've walked away from the Clippers for nothing. Seems like a win for both teams. 

 

rjc

June 28th, 2017 at 12:10 PM ^

If only they'd done this a week earlier... before they passed on Dennis Smith Jr and Malik Monk for Ntilikina because Phil thought he was a better fit in his outdated offense.

 

 

orangeda

June 28th, 2017 at 12:11 PM ^

last year, and the fact that he had to facilitate nearly everything for the Rockets on offense clearly had a lot to do with it.  Bringing in someone like Paul solves a lot of those issues, as they can now share those responsibilities.  And the fact that both are good shooters off the ball, and the rest of the roster is basically set up to play off of a playmaker, should help them out a lot, IMO.

Still don't think they're good enough to give the Warriors a serious run, yet, so they'll still have to make a move or two more to put them into serious contention, but it's a good start.

orangeda

June 28th, 2017 at 1:18 PM ^

probably had something to do with it, and that's another point in favor of adding someone like Paul to take the pressure of having to create everything off of Harden.  If he isn't having a good game, or, in the case of San Antonio, they have a great individual defender matched up on him, they can just shift the responsibilities over more toward Paul and not have much of a drop off.  

The only other guy on the team who could reasonably create was Lou Williams, but he only creates for himself.  Eric Gordon is a nice complementary offensive player, but you can't run the offense through him.

A team with Paul, Gordon, Harden, Ariza and Capela is a pretty strong starting 5, they should be an iteresting team to watch next year.

uncle leo

June 28th, 2017 at 1:41 PM ^

Very well, including find others. But I don't really think of Chris Paul as a self-creator of shots. He has never been that guy you can give the ball to and say, get out of the way he's getting us points.

But, he has the ball a TON. And James Harden is not going to like being the 2nd option and losing possessions. I don't see those two working well together.

cletus318

June 28th, 2017 at 12:47 PM ^

Now Houston gets to lose in the conference finals instead of the second round, so I guess congratulations? Phil Jackson got $60 million to halfway do a job I'm not sure he ever truly wanted. Good work if you can get it.

Needs

June 28th, 2017 at 2:41 PM ^

Their offense in the playoffs was significantly off from the regular season. It didn't fall off a cliff or anything but Zach Lowe's general conclusion is that their allergy to mid-range jumpers made the Rockets easier to guard in the playoffs, when teams could concentrate on their sets, than in the regular season. In Paul, they're getting maybe the best mid-range player in the game today. He will force them to move away, I imagine, from their philosophy of 3s and layups only, which is one of the ways that this trade is interesting.

 

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19364260/zach-lowe-san-antonio-spurs…

ScooterTooter

June 28th, 2017 at 1:28 PM ^

So now there are what, four major pieces left to fall? Paul George, Gordon Hayward, Kyle Lowry and Blake Griffin? 

There are really 5 teams that are looking like they are going to try and contend next year:

Golden State, Cleveland, Boston, Houston and San Antonio (just because they are the Spurs). You'd have to think those guys are ending up on those teams (maybe Lowry goes to Minnesota, which in that case throw Minny into the contenders mix as well). 

Personally, I think Boston grabs George and Hayward, Lowry re-signs in Toronto and Griffin goes to OKC, Houston or San Antonio. 

Harbaugh's Lef…

June 28th, 2017 at 1:32 PM ^

re: Knicks & Jackson

Lots of rejoicing going on here in NYC but a lot of people are completely failing to remember that the Knicks have been a complete dumpster fire for the past 15 years and honestly, for as long as Lil' Jimmy Dolan owns the team, they're going to continue to be. 

Harbaugh's Lef…

June 28th, 2017 at 2:32 PM ^

He's always a candidate because Lil'JD has some strange fascination with him. Well before Phil Jackson, there was Isiah Thomas destroying the Knicks with not a single playoff appearence after his initial season as President of BB Ops, in which he was hired during the season. 

 

username03

June 28th, 2017 at 2:31 PM ^

Can some one explain to me why CP3 is helping to purposely make his new team worse? He's a free agent, he can go wherever he wants. I can't wait for him and Carmelo to go on the we just want to win tour.

cletus318

June 28th, 2017 at 5:25 PM ^

I wouldn't accuse players of not trying to win (and I'm definitely not saying you are either), but everybody is in this to make money. Players are trying to make as much money as possible. Teams are trying to make as much money as possible. Teams don't go slashing ticket prices when they rebuild. Even Philly was raising ticket prices the years it was fielding a D League team. This is all human nature. Even taking less money isn't going to guarantee a championship. Given the options, guaranteed money is usually going to win out.

OwenGoBlue

June 28th, 2017 at 5:40 PM ^

I reject the idea that a player who wants what he's worth in an open market is inherently not doing all he can to be a winner. The only reason there are limits on contracts and a salary cap is because owners want to maximize their own profits. Probably twenty teams would pay Chris Paul that much if they could, each in the interest of trying to win a championship. How is him signing that deal a problem in any way?

bronxblue

June 28th, 2017 at 5:54 PM ^

He has a better chance at a title with Houston compared to LAC, and he still has some flexibility the next year. GSW got lucky with the cap spike and Curry being on a cheap deal, but usually top teams look like this. A couple high priced guys and then cheap talent around them on veteran or rookie deals.

MGoChippewa

June 28th, 2017 at 2:59 PM ^

Rockets are acquiring just about every non-guaranteed contract they can so they can make the deal before July 1st (which will give them full access to a mid level exception). With that, Detroit's Darrun Hilliard is going to Rockets, then the Clippers, then presumably being waived. Pistons likely to get cash.

kehnonymous

June 28th, 2017 at 5:56 PM ^

The one thing that gives me pause about this trade is that if Jerry West thumbsed-up it, it might pay dividends down the line - you can count the number of wrong personnel moves he's made in his entire post-playing career on one hand.  It'll inded be interesting to weigh the Clippers' identity of futility vs West's uncanny acumen for making the right trade - something's gotta give.

The thing people need to understand is that no matter how good the Clips have been and no matter how bad the Lakers have been (and they've been BAD), L.A. is always going to be a Laker town.  I mean, Michigan vs MSU is as close an analogy as you're gonna find.  Except the Clippers aren't even our little brother - they're some random kid of your mom's co-worker that she got conned into babysitting for the afternoon and the kid is wiping his snot on your XBox.  The Clipper fanbase is 5% actual fans of the team, 25% fans of their stars, and 70% fairweather fans who are back to wearing purple the minute the Lakers start being good again.  They've unmistakably been better than the Lakers and will be much better next season as well - and L.A. still isn't their town.

As for Phil Jackson - I wouldn't say he went from genius to idiot, so much as being a GM revealed the limits of his skills.  He's a master at passive-aggressive needling and mind games.  That may not make him a fun guy to work with but the results as a coach speak for themselves.  Those same traits, however, did not translate into success as a general manager.

bacon1431

June 28th, 2017 at 7:26 PM ^

Phil Jackson was obviously in over his head. Didn't know shit about running a team from the front office. But the Knicks are screwed until James Dolan is basically a hands off owner and keeps his fucking mouth shut.