Miami (YTM) Grad Transfer OT Sunny Odgowu Visited this Week
Reported late last night by Sam Webb and Josh Henschke. Odogwu started the first four games of last season at RT, but then suffered a "season-ending ankle injury," per Miami's official site. He also tore an MCL in 2015, but if he's healthy, looks like he'd be a great addition. He's now apparently off to visit UCLA, per Sam.
http://www.scout.com/college/michigan/story/1781973-miami-grad-transfer…
A startling percentage of Americans don't know basic logic/clauses like the one in your comment. Obviously, Michigan is the choice for both Football and Academics. UCLA can obviously only claim one of those institutions as being "on par with" Michigan.
Last I checked UCLA is in a power five conference and is coached by a former NFL head coach(obviously not as successful as Harbaugh), so I think your assertion that UCLA isn't on par with Michigan for football to a bit reductionist. This isn't trying to pick between Michigan and Purdue.
Also I responded to both the academic and football stage assertions, so your leadoff point about the logic is missing the mark a bit.
You're going to have a really hard time building the case that UCLA is on our level when it comes to football. Academics is easy. Football is fairly clear that we are on a higher level. Are we on opposite ends of the spectrum? No - but we are clearly above them when it comes to football.
Recent success: Harbaugh is 20-6 in last two years, finishing 12th and 10th. Mora is 12-13, finishing unranked both years. Three years ago Michigan finished unranked and UCLA finished ranked 10th. The programs are on opposite trajectories.
Stadiums: UCLA plays in a historic stadium that is large. Michigan plays in just as historic a stadium that is larger than UCLA's and is the largest in the country. Michigan's stadium is more modernized. Michigan's stadium is on campus and (sort of) connected with team facilities. UCLA's stadium requires a 40 minute bus ride from campus.
Prestige: No contest here. Michigan is the all-time win leader. UCLA is 57th all-time. Michigan has 11 National Titles, UCLA has 1. Michigan has 3 Heisman winners. UCLA has 1. Michigan has 42 Conference Championships. UCLA has 17.
Development: Both head coaches have coached in the NFL. Harbaugh was vastly more successful than Mora in the NFL. Of each school's 9 official assistant coaches, 7 of Michigan's have coached in the NFL, only 3 of UCLA's have. Both Offensive Line coaches have coached in the NFL. Last season, Michigan led all schools with 11 NFL draft picks, with 2 first round picks. UCLA had 5 draft picks, with 1 first round pick. Michigan is 5th in all-time draft picks with 362. UCLA is 15th in all-time draft picks with 316. Michigan is 3rd all-time in consensus All-Americans with 81. UCLA is 12th all-time in consensus All-Americans with 40.
It's quite ridiculous to say these two programs are on the same level. UCLA is a top 20 program, probably (though their all-time wins and national titles would not suggest it). Michigan is a top 5 program. From winning, to player development and coaching, to facilities, UCLA is a clear tier or two below us.
Don't know why you were getting downvoted for this.
There is zero logic to the downvoting that happens here. Must be just personal animus and witch hunting.
help to clarify points or advance discussion.
If Odogwu wishes to continue in management, Ross would be the number five program in the country for that. UCLA's rating, sadly, is too far down the list to see without a subscription. If he doesn't wish to specialize, UCLA's b-school is a little closer to Ross in that case, but still not equal.
If Odogwu wishes to go to the NFL, it is very difficult for me to believe that he (or readers here) would consider UCLA an equivalent path.
But the main point is the difference in cultures: the fun at UMich is football itself--hard work, the grind, daily improvement, the meritocracy, the achievement of it. NFL franchises have taken notice, and NFL-aspiring student athletes ought to as well.
If that's his personality, he is likely to choose UMich, and he will do well; and, I wish him well. If, however, entertainment is a higher priority, then UCLA is a more likely path, but he would not have fit as well with the UMich football culture.
I hope that clarifies my point. It's not incontrovertible, but I still think it's pretty strong.
this would please me....
pop up and neg a generally upbeat post about a possible addition to Michigan's football team.
You have been around long enough to know that it's not weird, it's covfefe.
Glad to see the staff is working on this weakness. Even if he doesn't come hopefully they land someone who can play at a high level.
Don't care about his injury history. We need him for one season. If nothing else, the depth is great!
If he heals and can play, a positive. If he can't play but mentors the youngsters, a positive. (And we can always hope for both.)
And Bunting could form the core of the giant, always injured all stars.