Warde talks B1G schedule, night game in 2017, UNIFORMZ
Warde Manuel says conversations ongoing about breaking up msu and osu to home and away each year
— Chris Balas (@Balas_Wolverine) August 23, 2016
Manuel says Michigan will probably have to wait for the next batch of B1G schedules to split OSU/MSU home/away on UM's schedule
— Nick Baumgardner (@nickbaumgardner) August 23, 2016
^that would be 2020.
Michigan "could" have a night game at home in 2017. ... Which, of course, is what we've heard every year for a long time. So stay tuned.
— Nick Baumgardner (@nickbaumgardner) August 23, 2016
Manuel says Michigan will have conversations with Nike about alternate uniforms down the line. Michigan makes the call if they wear them.
— Nick Baumgardner (@nickbaumgardner) August 23, 2016
Manuel: "I'm not going to dictate to my coach that on a certain game you've got to wear a certain uniform." So it's Harbaugh call.
— Nick Baumgardner (@nickbaumgardner) August 23, 2016
Manuel will not dictate to Harbaugh whether to wear an alternate uniform....remember, JH said he's open to it.
— angelique (@chengelis) August 23, 2016
August 23rd, 2016 at 10:51 AM ^
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August 23rd, 2016 at 10:54 AM ^
Michgian playing anywhere two years in a row I think it will be safe to assume that Manuel's grace period with the fan base will be officially over.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:12 AM ^
I'd be willng to play two more in a row in EL to balance out the schedule. Now that we finally have a great coach, where the games are played isn't going to matter nearly as much as it used to.
Lansing or Ann Arbor, MSU is getting their asses kicked.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:14 AM ^
But I want to see said ass-kicking without having to go into that snake pit.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:40 AM ^
I hear ya but there's something to be said about going into said snake pit and beating their asses two years in a row. Put those fans back in their places!
August 23rd, 2016 at 12:25 PM ^
some respects beating sparty in that shithole, but being in the shithole itself is repugnant.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:16 AM ^
We already did that. They can come here X2 and shut their disrespected pie holes about it too.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:21 AM ^
with that sentiment, but I also don't care as much as other people do about the whole issue since I'm not a season ticket holder.
Although I don't understand WTF Warde was thinking with the ND schedule. We should at least have them at home if we're on the road to OSU and MSU.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:39 AM ^
It's not just about season tickets though, it's about competitive balance. Every other year Michigan's schedule is much more difficult than the previous as opposed to each year being roughly equivalent.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:51 AM ^
See, you would think that MSU would want to switch as well.
Because it's best for them to have Ohio State and Michigan in alternating years too.
In the East we got screwed in both the short term and the long term, MSU got screwed in the long term, and OSU got exactly what they wanted (either get their #1 game at home or both their #2 and #3 games at home in PSU and MSU).
Fuck OSU.
August 23rd, 2016 at 12:20 PM ^
MSU has always cared more about screwing over Michigan than it's own self interests though. Case in point: Dantonio rooting against M when a Michigan win would have secured MSU the conference title.
August 23rd, 2016 at 12:23 PM ^
But I disagree with the thinking on competitive balance. If we're truly going to be an Alabama level elite program, we have to be able to play and beat teams on the road. We used to stomp the crap out of OSU and MSU regularly in their own stadiums.
August 23rd, 2016 at 12:57 PM ^
and Auburn away, and vice versa.
August 23rd, 2016 at 1:03 PM ^
MSU won at UM and OSU last year. They overcame that mental hurdle - probably doesn't bother them as much.
August 23rd, 2016 at 1:49 PM ^
I'll bet they are saying to themselves, "we can absolutely sustain winning games by controlling the weather and snap taking ability of the other team's punters."
Is it satire though if they are actually saying that to themselves, because they probably are?
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:46 PM ^
To be fair, they honestly should've beaten OSU by more than 3 in that game. They way outplayed them. And MSU was missing its QB.
They won that game by fluke, but it wasn't because of an extraneous factor like weather. That had nothing to do with it. OSU played their worst game. That was it.
August 23rd, 2016 at 1:24 PM ^
if Ohio State were forced to appear twice in a row at Michigan, there is no way that wouldn't be just an in-home and conference issue, it would be a national one, and columnists here and abroad would be raising it to a national debate.
The fact that our former AD was forced into accepting the double scheduling with MSU, which is the rivalry game date that needs to be unhinged from the home away coupling with OSU, can occur more quickly should Michigan take care of business this season and win the East. That would mean that each school has won the division once in the past three seasons under the revised division format.
What's more, the conference might be less inclined to schedule MSU, OSU and Michigan back-to-back as recompense for that other scheduling quirk. Who knows?
But the fact is, Michigan ought to challenge that scheduling to correct the imbalance that no other in the conference has been forced to deal with. Not like Perdue has been forced to play Indiana and Notre Dame on the road in the same year unless it scheduled itself that way. No other school has been forced to play its natural rival let alone an in-state one two years consecutively on the road. Michigan did get a trophy rival, Minnesota, and Indiana as consecuitve home opponents in compensation. But again that is different from beng forced to play you in-state rival twice on the road and then compete against both it and your primary rival on the road every other year.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:57 AM ^
August 23rd, 2016 at 12:20 PM ^
But you have to give me your tickets for one of the two games.
I'll call Warde.
August 23rd, 2016 at 12:19 PM ^
Real or not, MSU getting two straight home games against us a few years ago played into the narrative that they had leveled the playing field against us. Having the B1G turn around 5 years later and swtich things back in favor of Michigan getting two straight home games would just reinforce the reality that nothing has really changed in the grand hierarchy of the conference. That would be fun.
August 23rd, 2016 at 12:26 PM ^
Why? They should be grateful that we even play them.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:29 AM ^
You want something but are not willing to concede anything. This is how negotiations work, our current situation is we want MSU and OSU on different years. Take any bad deals previously made off the table, they have no impact on the next deal. As we are the ones who desire a change we must be willing to give to get. Demanding something else isn't the way to make it happen,
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:32 AM ^
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August 23rd, 2016 at 1:00 PM ^
as well, since the played us and OSU away last year, etc. If 2020 is the year, and we play MSU at home in 2019, then they should play us at home again in 2020.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:31 AM ^
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:37 AM ^
I concur. Said it a while ago and got killed for it, but if they wanted to move it to Ford Field for one year just to get things back in line I would not have a problem with it. I think the State would respond to it and it could be a cool event for Detroit.
August 23rd, 2016 at 12:07 PM ^
I understand why you feel it's a workable solution but you don't take the tradition and pageantry of a rival like UM/MSU and move it to a professional football stadium. I'd rather play them in EL than Ford Field.
August 23rd, 2016 at 3:18 PM ^
to right the ship, and considering all the ego's in play, it's probably a pretty damn good solution.
August 23rd, 2016 at 8:28 PM ^
I would rather the team play them at a High School field in the U.P then play them two years in a row again in East Lansing. Ford Field sounds like a pretty good alternative.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:43 AM ^
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^
MSU would never agree to playing at Michigan back-to-back years.
August 23rd, 2016 at 1:33 PM ^
why in the ever living f*** did WE ever agree to play there two years in a row? Brandon left us a toilet bowl of turds, but this may be the hardest one to flush away.
August 23rd, 2016 at 10:53 AM ^
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August 23rd, 2016 at 11:47 AM ^
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August 23rd, 2016 at 10:53 AM ^
Based on what I could find, that means 2020 at the earliest because the 2018-2019 schedules have been announced.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:02 AM ^
That is also when the B1G will use the next round of data for parity based scheduling.
August 23rd, 2016 at 10:54 AM ^
Yeah I am still salty about having to play there back to back. When it's fixed it better reverse from last time. We better not have to play back to back in that dump again!
August 23rd, 2016 at 10:56 AM ^
B1G 2019 schedule can be seen here:
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/big10/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2013…
August 23rd, 2016 at 10:57 AM ^
I'm glad this is still on the front burner for Warde, even though we might not see the changes until 2020. Regardless of performance (and I hope it will be high) - the issue for ticket holders on years like these (both away) is real. So close - can't wait!
August 23rd, 2016 at 5:48 PM ^
August 23rd, 2016 at 10:57 AM ^
I just wonder what leverage Warde has, he needs to come big dick swinging and make Hollis and msu eat it because there is a zero percent chance they willingly give UM to home games back to back even if it makes sense for them to balance out their schedule too.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:01 AM ^
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August 23rd, 2016 at 11:20 AM ^
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August 23rd, 2016 at 11:22 AM ^
it was discussed in Endzone. I'm going off the top of my head, but I seem to remember in the book Bacon discussing how Brandon went to the first BIG meeting in his tenure and saying how he needed to learn from the other AD's, he was the new guy on the block, etc. That last for about 90 seconds before DB started running his mouth about his thoughts on everything and why they were good ideas because of his buisness history. Long story short, he pissed off everyone in the BIG from the start and it didn't get much better.
August 23rd, 2016 at 11:34 AM ^
Yeah. That doesn't surprise me in the least.
August 23rd, 2016 at 12:12 PM ^
Yeah, that's probably the reason why MSU hosts both Michigan and OSU during the same season, and plays away the next.
August 23rd, 2016 at 10:58 AM ^
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