OT: Georgia Tech Prospect Decommits Because of Bad Experience With Stadium Cop

Submitted by BursleyHall82 on

Jordan Johnson, a 3-star guard prospect (No. 530 overall), is decommiting from Georgia Tech because a campus cop accused him of forging his stadium pass during Saturday's game against Georgia.

http://michigan.247sports.com/Bolt/Prospect-decommits-from-Georgia-Tech…

Bet the coaching staff is really happy with that cop.

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Nitro

December 1st, 2015 at 1:56 PM ^

Is that what happened?

From his account, his mom was being kicked out of the stadium incorrectly, and when he tried to correct the police officer, the police officer then responsed by falsely accusing him of being a liar and of committing forgery.

You think he's a bad kid because he was upset that his mom was harassed?  You think that's something a good kid would just let happen? You really think someone who would just shut up, take the scholarship, and not stand up for his mom would be a better person and a harder worker? Obviously I'm not following your logic here.

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Hail-Storm

December 1st, 2015 at 2:32 PM ^

and it looks like both could be telling the truth. It's possible for two people to have the same conversation and come away with very different interpretations of what went down (I'm married, trust me). In this case, one account of the incident didn't hear anything that was said.

It's pretty pointless for any of us to jump on either the recruit or the police officer in this situation.  Most likely, both could have handled it better. 

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Nitro

December 1st, 2015 at 5:07 PM ^

Well, first, what part of "from his account" didn't you understand?  Or did you delusionally read my post as saying something else?

Second, the post I was responding to doesn't appear to be questioning the kid's version of the facts as far as I can see.  Whether I "accept entirely the kid's assertions without an ounce of independent verification" isn't relevant.

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Nitro

December 1st, 2015 at 2:02 PM ^

But, really, it probably was posted by someone for whom that username would fit.

With so many of these police reports that don't match the video evidence being brought to the public's attention lately, it seems like making up false accounts of what actually happened is a common skill for police officers.

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Nitro

December 1st, 2015 at 2:36 PM ^

Pretty sure the two things I mentioned as being in contrast were police accounts and video evidence.  Are you saying a clear, raw video of something can really be a citizen telling a lie?  How do you tell when something that appears to be a video file is really a person lying and not a video when it looks and plays like a video file?  I'm really not following what you're saying here.

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Nitro

December 1st, 2015 at 5:13 PM ^

Let's see -- this is what I actually said: "With so many of these police reports that don't match the video evidence being brought to the public's attention lately..."

My post wasn't directed to this kid's situation.  You're delusionally reading a lot of my posts as saying something completely different than what I actually said.  I'm not even aware of any video for this situation.

Also, where did I ever say or imply the kid's account was more accurate than the cops?  Is there even a police report?  Was there an arrest made?  I'm confused.  Where is this police interpretation of the events that you're referencing?  I haven't seen it.

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Blue in Yarmouth

December 1st, 2015 at 2:14 PM ^

let's just paint all law enforcement with the same brush. I find this incredibly ironic that in a thread where racism is a major point of emphasis you jump to the conclusion that since some cops are dirty than none can be trusted. Threads like this make my head hurt...

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Nitro

December 1st, 2015 at 2:31 PM ^

So, your opinion is that my suggestion that the person who spent the time drafting a long anonymous internet post that essentially absolves the officers involved of having done anything inappropriate and paints them as being completely calm and friendly while also accusing the other party of being nothing but hostile, entitled jerks that created and escalated a situation may have been a police officer is "painting all law enforcement with the same brush"?

You really think suggesting that a single internet post was written by a police officer with an intent to deceive is somehow a making statement about ALL police officers?  Or are you just throwing out random catch-phrases you hear a lot on talk radio without really understanding whether it's actually applicable to the situtation you're using it for? Clown.

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aratman

December 1st, 2015 at 4:00 PM ^

It is OK for a police officer to lie to make a case.  They can coerce someone by completely being untruthful to make the arrest, we expect that from our police.  If you are expected to lie to people as a regular part of your job, what do you expect from them when they are trying to keep their jobs?   Example:  " Johnny is telling us that you did it and he is fingering you"  when that is untrue.  You want them to tell the truth some times, lie sometimes then are surprised that you hired a bunch of liars.

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Ali G Bomaye

December 1st, 2015 at 1:49 PM ^

Other people are claiming that stadium security asked him to show his ticket, and he reacted by getting belligerent and yelling at the cop.  As a result, GT pulled his scholarship offer, which prompted him to "decommit."

The truth in these situations usually lies somewhere in the middle. I doubt it's as simple as Johnson says.

More speculation and information here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/3urhdh/offensive_lineman_jordan_j…

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Tuebor

December 1st, 2015 at 2:02 PM ^

It would be reasonable to assume that you could stay sitting in that section if you were on an official visit with credentials.  It is also reasonable to assume the credentials might not be real if the person wearing them isn't sitting in the designated section for those credentials, ie. with the other recruits and thier families.  It is reasonable to assume that the recruit felt entitled since he was on a recruiting trip and probably was getting smoke blown up his behind, so why should he have to listen to the cop.  It is also reasonable to assume the cop was acting like a dick since he had to kick other people out of the section and probably thought this group was trying to talk their way out of getting kicked out. 

 

At the end of the day, sit where you are supposed to and treat everyone with respect.

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Jon06

December 1st, 2015 at 1:52 PM ^

I am surprised this kind of stuff doesn't happen more often, but it's good to see it get called out in a case like this.

I suppose it's also good that the wealthy Southern onlooker who couldn't hear the conversation is convinced nothing untoward happened when three people were subjected to extra scrutiny for behaving as if they were students. People should do what they can to sleep well at night. It's healthy.

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SalvatoreQuattro

December 1st, 2015 at 2:01 PM ^

He was at least there. Your opinion is based on a report on the incident. Yet somehow you feel confident enough to make a judgment.

His statement may well be bullshit. Further reports should tell us if he was or wasn't telling the truth.

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canzior

December 1st, 2015 at 2:06 PM ^

when I visited with D. Hand.  The coaches didn't inform the proper people, and they wouldn't let us drive to the Hayes Center to park.  Even after the officers spoke with the coaches, because we didn't already have passes, we weren't allowed in.  So we had to park about 2 miles away (Columbus on Michigan gameday), and pay $40 to park in someone's driveway.  The weather was about 35 degrees and raining.  It was the beginning of the end of his interest in OSU.

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Magnus

December 1st, 2015 at 2:06 PM ^

Apparently, Rashan Gary's mother recently had a bad experience with a stadium security guard, too, so maybe these football staffs should start meeting with stadium security to give them a heads-up.

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MotownGoBlue

December 1st, 2015 at 2:15 PM ^

I don't see how that's not already happening. I've seen recruits show IDs/passes before heading into their designated areas. Heck, ushers/security check my tickets 15 minutes after they've seen my face. But my wife says I do look suspicious, so there's that going against me.

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