Recruiting karma strikes at LSU
News surfaced today that LSU got hit with some heavy recruiting sanctions due to an early enrolling backing out of his commitment. As a result, they can't sign any early enrollees to financial aid papers for 2 years and they lose 10% of their recruiting evaluation days (which winds up being 21 days).
Considering they booted a recruit/player out of the dorms a few years a day or so before the semester was going to start because they were oversigned, this is some sweet, sweet irony.
February 26th, 2015 at 7:30 PM ^
The effects of grass eating must've gotten to Les.
February 26th, 2015 at 9:59 PM ^
Must've had one too many pesticides in the grass...
February 26th, 2015 at 7:31 PM ^
Sounds like LSU got screwed in this deal.
February 26th, 2015 at 7:33 PM ^
Its a dumb rule and they definitely got screwed, but I find it pretty damn funny. After them screwing over some recruits by backing out on them at the last minute, it kinda feels good to see them get screwed by a recruit backing out on them. Karmic justice.
February 26th, 2015 at 9:20 PM ^
February 26th, 2015 at 9:47 PM ^
February 26th, 2015 at 7:34 PM ^
http://theadvocate.com/sports/lsu/11707183-123/records-lsu-slapped-with…
February 26th, 2015 at 7:35 PM ^
February 26th, 2015 at 7:45 PM ^
Won't somebody please think of the schools!
February 26th, 2015 at 10:17 PM ^
If it was Ohio State.
February 26th, 2015 at 11:11 PM ^
February 26th, 2015 at 7:46 PM ^
sounds like they got a raw deal but I'm sure they've gotten away with their fair share.
February 26th, 2015 at 8:14 PM ^
The Magnolia Heights lineman committed to the Tigers during a July visit and signed a financial aid agreement with LSU in early August. Per NCAA rules, the agreement allows schools to have unlimited contact with prospects planning to enroll early at an institution. However, according to his father, LSU isn't going to act upon the agreement in case his son changes his mind.
That's from the Clarion-Ledger story actually. The direct quote later in the article has the father saying LSU would have had to report this as a violation otherwise basically and that they took this position of not using the aid agreement for unlimited contact in the event he would change his mind.
The stupid thing is that when the NCAA changed the rule to allow high school seniors to sign the grant-in-aid agreements with schools, the intent might have been to force schools to honor offers, but they themselves left the door wide open for recruits to sign multiple agreements and then be fought over with a deluge of open communication. It has already happened to a few kids of note too. They tried to close the loophole by stating that only the school with whom the recruit signed first can publicly announce the signing, but then if you're highly touted, who will turn you down and still, why not sign with a few more and listen? The NCAA did not think this one through, in my opinion.
February 26th, 2015 at 8:34 PM ^
Stupid rule: stupid decision. If this happened in Ann Arbor, we would be livid. Unfortunately, the only "appeal" is to the people who made the decision in the first place. While the penalty sorta makes up for them never being penalized for past shenanigans, it's still a bad precedent.
It's as if the NCAA is so desperate to demonstrate what's left of their power that they are trying to find any reason they can to penalize someone. I hope LSU litigates.
February 26th, 2015 at 9:33 PM ^
was handed down by the SEC, not the NCAA.
February 26th, 2015 at 8:43 PM ^
February 26th, 2015 at 8:58 PM ^
Though the SEC is a cash cow for ABC and CBS, and ABC runs the world. SEC: Too big to fail.
February 26th, 2015 at 8:44 PM ^
Shananigans.
February 26th, 2015 at 8:53 PM ^
SEC uses loopholes to gin the system. Only fitting that an SEC team gets hit with a technicality.
February 26th, 2015 at 9:23 PM ^
Agreed, this is a dumb rule. Obviously LSU deserves some of this from a karma perspective, but they only violated the terms of the agreement after the student signed somewhere else, which seems to defeat the purpose of FAA. I suspect the NCAA will be amending the rules with respect to these financial aid agreements soon.
February 26th, 2015 at 9:25 PM ^
Widespread scandal? "Hey that bowl game from 3 years ago doesn't count anymore!"
Kid renegs on FAA? "Wow. This is serious business. You lose 21 days of recruiting time..........was he involved in any stretching activities during this time?"
February 26th, 2015 at 9:26 PM ^
February 26th, 2015 at 9:41 PM ^
February 27th, 2015 at 7:43 AM ^
Because the rule explicitly states that a school may have a greater level of contact with a recruit who signs a financial aid agreement. The catch is that the school is also retroactively penalized if the recruit decides not to enroll at that school.
In this case, LSU acted in good faith, assuming the kid was going to matriculate. The kid changed his mind, so LSU is penalized for excessive contact. If he enrolled, then it would not have been a violation. Stupid.
February 26th, 2015 at 9:31 PM ^
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February 27th, 2015 at 7:22 AM ^
February 27th, 2015 at 9:12 AM ^
February 27th, 2015 at 9:45 AM ^
Nope, still not ironic.
February 26th, 2015 at 9:50 PM ^
February 26th, 2015 at 9:55 PM ^
I'm actually surprised. This seems like something the NCAA would do to a big ten or pac 12 school especially since Emmert is a LSU/SEC man.
February 26th, 2015 at 10:07 PM ^
The Karmic irony is that the kid eventually went to Alabama, so Saban knowingly or unknowingly stuck it to Miles.
February 26th, 2015 at 10:47 PM ^
Nope.
February 27th, 2015 at 8:26 AM ^
... nothing. Nothing at all. I predict this has zero impact.
February 27th, 2015 at 8:31 AM ^
ergo LSU did not deserve this punishment.