At What Point Is Enough, Enough?
First, I am a Rich Rodriguez fan and I really want him to succeed here, at Michigan. But when is it time to pull the plug? Mark Dantonio has as many conference wins in Ann Arbor as RichRod has....and Ron Zook could match that soon.
I think Rich Rod is a great coach and he seems like a good guy. I know he never has gotten a fair shake here from a lot of people. But it is starting to look like he isn't a good fit for Michigan. I don't buy the idea that his offense won't work in the Big Ten, so I am not saying that. I'm sure that I will get neg'd for asking the question, but that is all I am doing.
For the record, I would love to see him succeed here and make a lot of people eat crow. But I am starting to have doubts about the possibility of that happening.
October 16th, 2010 at 11:36 PM ^
But heaven forbid we exceed expectations for a game. Teams do it every week...
October 16th, 2010 at 11:05 PM ^
If you a) outgain your opponent and b) don't turn the god damned ball over 4 times then you win the game. They didn't do part b.
If you outgain your opponent regularly you're going to win your share of games, no question.
October 16th, 2010 at 11:08 PM ^
Had a lot to do with their lack of total yards.
October 17th, 2010 at 5:30 PM ^
Outgaining your opponent and have fewer turnovers than your opponent =BCS bowl (even if games are a shootout)
October 16th, 2010 at 11:12 PM ^
IS TO MINIMIZE THE MISTAKES. AGAIN AND I GUESS I MAKING FUCKED UO EXCUSES FOR YOUNG COLLEGE ATHLETES BUT IM PRETTY SURE WE SEEN A TEAM THAT WOULDNT GIVE UP THAT MADE MENTAL ERRORS. YOU KNOW REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE 18 OR 19 WHEN YOU GO TO PARTIES AND YOU RUN INTO A CHICK THAT YOU SAY DAMN SHES GOT A FINE ASS BUT I KNOW SHES A HOE THAN YOU GET WITH HER AND DEVELOP THE CLAP. THIS IS WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE 18 OR 19. WHEN YOU HIT 20 TO 21 YOU REALIZE HOW TO AVOID THE CLAP. SO HONESTLY COACH ROD NEEDS TO PRINT THIS AND SHOW THE TEAM THAT AVOIDING MISTAKES IS LIKE AVOIDING THE CLAP.
October 16th, 2010 at 11:22 PM ^
You, sir, are my new favorite poster.
October 16th, 2010 at 11:34 PM ^
I LOVE DEFENDING WHAT I LOVE THE MOST AGAINST THOSE WHO I THINK WERE WAITING FOR THIS OUTCOME.
October 16th, 2010 at 11:30 PM ^
BIG DIFERENCE WHEN WE HAVE 18 AND 19 YEAR OLDS ON THE FIELD. 20 AND 21 MEANS GAME BLOUSES.
October 17th, 2010 at 5:33 PM ^
One of the more entertaining posts I've read.
October 17th, 2010 at 12:19 AM ^
I like our new way of defining success. I might use it in the spring for baseball. "Well, guys, we had more hits and more hard hit balls than team x, we also had more baserunners advancing past 2nd than they did. We also had more quality AB's than team x. Other than the 8 errors, we did reasonably well"
I also enjoyed reading someone's comment today in the fallout sections of the blog that wrote, "7-5. The new 10-2"
As sure as sparks fly upward, man is born for trouble. How he responds to adversity determines his path and his destiny. Be resilient. Sports teaches men, young and old to deal with adversity head on and have a response to it. I'm sure this is great training ground for the future leaders of our country and beyond our borders.
October 17th, 2010 at 6:11 PM ^
Well said, sir.
October 16th, 2010 at 10:40 PM ^
You're so fu#ked!!
October 16th, 2010 at 10:43 PM ^
There's @#$%ed, and then there's ... you.
October 16th, 2010 at 11:56 PM ^
Shhh. Don't talk about the points....
October 16th, 2010 at 10:40 PM ^
We put up 500+ yards on one of the best defenses in the Big Ten (without DRob) and the D showed that it is constantly improving. Four or five plays without missed tackles or dumb mistakes and we have (#16)Iowa beat by 2 TD easy.
October 17th, 2010 at 3:02 AM ^
These posts are the ones that rankle me the most because they employ a selective reality distortion field. Why do you only consider what would have happened had a few bounces gone Michigan's way? How about if a few bounces went Iowa's way? They might have won by 4 touchdowns.
Or last week, had a few bounces gone MSU's way, they would have dropped 50 on Michigan.
These coulda, shoulda games can be played legitimately in really close games when one or two plays ACTUALLY decide the outcome. When you start talking about 4 or 5 or more plays going in your team's favor, you've already given up.
October 17th, 2010 at 8:43 AM ^
The four to five plays to which I'm referring (grammar ace!) were problematic plays that Michigan inherently created. How many times did Michigan turn the ball over? 4. Iowa? 0. So had we kept the ball, I think we coulda/shoulda/woulda won. It's not like I'm asking for Shoelace to just jump over the entire defense (that's actually a trickplay RR and Magee are waiting for OSU to unveil) and score with some kind of magic. All I'm asking is to do better in the TO margin, and then we can play with the Top 15 type teams.
October 17th, 2010 at 6:12 PM ^
And if the dog hadn't stopped to shit, she'd been my uncle, too....
October 17th, 2010 at 5:45 PM ^
...we'd all have a merry Christmas.
Sorry that dog don't hunt monsignor. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. WIth the way our defense has played, we are heavy underdogs to Penn State and Illinois (and only a marginal favorite over Purdue, which has looked terrible a lot of the time).
October 16th, 2010 at 10:41 PM ^
I agree with you gnarles woodson. I get negged all the time for having a realistic view point. There are a lot of people on here that don't except reality and they neg you for it (look at my points lol). But I would love to see RR succeed myself, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon (the future of the defense isn't looking too bright as of right now).
October 16th, 2010 at 10:43 PM ^
I lost 10 G's tonight.
October 16th, 2010 at 10:49 PM ^
How did you even manage such a negative value?
October 16th, 2010 at 11:08 PM ^
earlier did you?
October 17th, 2010 at 12:10 AM ^
what was it??
i missed it.
October 17th, 2010 at 9:24 AM ^
I called Geaux_Blue Napoleon and thats what did me in.
October 17th, 2010 at 3:46 PM ^
60% of the time it works every time.
October 16th, 2010 at 11:08 PM ^
If they're "not excepting reality" that means they're being realistic, right?
October 16th, 2010 at 10:41 PM ^
I will tell when isnt the time. Not when we lose to two Top 15 teams. Were 5-2. I would say step away from the ledge but all you guys are freaking out so much you might as well go.
October 16th, 2010 at 10:42 PM ^
This is how the rest of the regular season will play out in my dreams...
Michigan win out, MSU lose to NW-Iowa-PSU, Iowa lose to Wisco-NW-OSU, Northwestern lose to PSU-Wisco, Purdue lose to OSU = Michigan in Pasadena
October 16th, 2010 at 10:42 PM ^
"First, I am a Rich Rodriguez fan and I really want him to succeed here, at Michigan."
"I think Rich Rod is a great coach and he seems like a good guy."
"I know he never has gotten a fair shake here from a lot of people."
"I don't buy the idea that his offense won't work in the Big Ten, so I am not saying that."
"For the record, I would love to see him succeed here and make a lot of people eat crow."
What, again?
October 16th, 2010 at 10:43 PM ^
If you're a fan, why do you want to pull the plug?
October 16th, 2010 at 10:44 PM ^
The end.
October 16th, 2010 at 11:01 PM ^
have you seen the comments from the presser post?
Brian should raise the point total just to comment . . . somehow (seeing as points are earned FOR posting.)
October 16th, 2010 at 11:09 PM ^
I think we need to require new aspiring posters to wash Magnus' car for a few weeks or walk MGoShoe's dog until they've proven themselves. The current system provides no barrier between these jackholes' unfiltered dumbassery and my reading eyeballs. I know we can do better.
October 17th, 2010 at 5:49 PM ^
...jackholes (aka anyone daring to be negative about Lord Richard Rodriquez, he who can not fail...even when he does) who are the intelligent ones. You blind defenders are sounding more and more like Bart SImpson in the Camp Crusty episode ("Progress is happening, progress is happening, even though nothing on the field actually indicates it, progress is happening"...replace with Bart's "Crusty is Coming" mantra).
October 16th, 2010 at 10:44 PM ^
people are saying that about your post. sorry bud.
October 16th, 2010 at 10:46 PM ^
When? The end if the year. Not now. If, by the end of the year, we has another crappy year, that's it. But he has 5 more games. Why jump the gun?
October 16th, 2010 at 10:46 PM ^
As to why losses to two top 15 teams has all of a sudden caused so many people to conclude everything is going to hell. Before the season given the youth and inexperience on defense most people were hoping for 7-5. 7-5 teams lose to top 15 teams. Otherwise they would be winning 9 or 10 games.
If they can't beat Ilinois or Purdue please feel free to freak out and immediately ask for a new coach but otherwise why not hold on for the rest of the season and see if returning a starting a loaded offense and probably more importantly experience on the d line and in the secondary can lead to some noticable improvement on the field.
Losing is not fun but unless you think there is a homerun coaching option to turn to it makes much more sense to hang on this year and see if we can start turning the corner next year. I think we are better off firing him a year too late than a year too early. Harbaugh will still be available after next year and i don't even know who else is a viable candidate that would be exciting at all.
October 16th, 2010 at 10:55 PM ^
Because everyone is petrified that this year is going to be just like last year. It doesn't matter how good the teams Michigan lost to are, the point is that Michigan lost and there's a great deal of negative energy building up thanks to last years epic collapse.
October 16th, 2010 at 11:02 PM ^
But that's not a reason to give up on this year's team. This year's team is still 5-2.
October 16th, 2010 at 11:05 PM ^
You're absolutely right, I'm just giving my theory as to why the reactions to the past two losses have been so vehement.
October 16th, 2010 at 11:24 PM ^
I think you're correct about that - this is clearly isn't just a reaction to the last two games.
October 16th, 2010 at 10:47 PM ^
October 16th, 2010 at 10:48 PM ^
Thats what those of us who follow and love this team most predicted before the season and I saw nothing in the first 5 weeks that made me want to start talking 9-3 or 10-2. GW I understand your frustration and this kind of rebuilding process is painful indeed however...Examine once again just what RR has had to work with the last three years and take a strong look at the D side of the ball now. Take a deep breath, see the improvement and sleep tonight remembering that 2011 is the year we are working toward.
October 16th, 2010 at 10:50 PM ^
Evidently "I predict 7-5 or 8-4" means "I demand 12-0."