Was there a single holding penalty called against psu?

Submitted by crg on
So the offiating seemed eerily familiar to last year's OSU game. After the major holding non-call on Gary in the second psu drive (which would have negated their big pass play), I noticed at least 4 more missed holding calls against psu (there may have been more - just what I saw). Was there a single hold that was called against their offense? Are these officials ever actually held accountable for this (probably not)? Please tell me UM will submit a compiled tape of these to the league office (which will likely be ignored, but still).
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yikesyall

October 22nd, 2017 at 1:05 AM ^

My username is yikesyall because, yikes, y'all.

But, also, I can't help but feel that the refs actually have it out for Michigan. I feel like refs this season are making an active effort to get back at Harbaugh after his comments following OSU last year. The officiating was horrible in that game, and it's been even worse ever since. The same thing very often does not get called on both sides of the ball.

We've gotten a few favorable questionable calls, but they've been outweighed by a bunch of unfavorable questionable calls.

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YouRFree

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:12 AM ^

It's not necessary the ref will help out a showcase program. If the administrative staff /officiating staff are managed by people have tie with OSU/MSU, there will be always such agenda no matter whether Michigan is a showcase program or not.

 

My point is there is other possible reason too.

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Kstuds

October 21st, 2017 at 11:44 PM ^

The refs had nothing to do with the thorough beat down we took tonight, however, I’d be curious to see some analysis in something. In the Harbaugh era, I’d be curious to see a comparison of our opponents average # of penalties against in a given year vs how many they were flagged for in their game vs us. My bet, is that teams are flagged for significantly fewer penalties vs us than their average for the year. Can someone pull this together ?

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MGolem

October 21st, 2017 at 11:49 PM ^

But the no call on the long pass play when the olineman has his arm wrapped around Hurst's neck was particularly egregious. No TV replay of course but it was obvious from my couch. Simply put there is no fucking way they committed one penalty all game. That part alone smells fishy.

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Gipsy_Danger

October 21st, 2017 at 11:49 PM ^

These ref threads are almost hilarious. This is why most fanbases hate us. Can't even take an ass kicking and accept that were not good without bringing up the refs.

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YouRFree

October 22nd, 2017 at 1:22 AM ^

I'v been thinking about this for a long time. NFL and college players have raise their fists for what? injustice in the society.

But they can do nothing about the refs being injustice. Sports is a little mirror reflecting the real problem. Always that way, in any country. 

 

Sad. They work so hard and deserve a fair game call. No make-up call and make the stat looks normal. Not every call is the same.

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BoCanHam15

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:00 AM ^

However the McSorely intentional grounding that was obvious was not called, was a huge, momentum killer. We're never going to get the benefit of the calls, so we need to get better and just beat the hell out of other teams. So that it doesn't matter, in the end.

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MGoCombs

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:03 AM ^

I don't blame the refs. Penn State had a superior team and game plan. With that out of the way, how did PSU not commit a single penalty on offense or defense. That's nearly literally not possible unless they are the greatest team ever.

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MGoBlue96

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:29 AM ^

but are the people who are saying it is not an issue really trying to tell me that a Michigan d-line that has had multiple NFL caliber players on it the last 2-3 years, doesn't get held more than a handful times over that timespan. Give me a fucking break, that is just not believable. UM opponents the last 2-3 years have held the shit out of the d-line and are never called for it, that is bullshit.

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Matte Kudasai

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:32 AM ^

Refs didn't cost us the game tonight but they did cost us the MSU game which was on par with OSU last year.  I'm surprised there wasn't much talk of the refs in that game, especially since we were at home.

Everytime MSU hit one of their three big plays there was a takedown by their OL.

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SDCran

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:34 AM ^

(Non) Holding call on the first long pass
Roughing the passer on a run :). (I think the call was borderline and it caused a 25 yard difference
Chop block when the cut came after the first blocker disengaged
Hurst was chopped on a long play that wasn’t called
Non-PI call when defender pushed receiver (DPJ?) oob before the ball arrived
Didn’t get a good look at the hold on JBB. Didn’t look any worse than 3-4 other non-calls. Man, getting points before halftime would have helped

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AmayzNblue

October 22nd, 2017 at 8:57 AM ^

But there was one or two PSU drives they truly kept alive with questionable calls against our D. PSU receiver’s grabbing defenders jerseys only to get a PI on the defense. Stuff like that just makes officiating look bad. But they definitely did not cost us the game. Crappy performance by the team did that

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MGoBlue96

October 22nd, 2017 at 1:10 AM ^

Forgot this game individually, as a whole how the fuck do you explain UM's great defensive lines only drawing a handful of holding penalties the last 2-3 years?

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Khaleke The Freak

October 22nd, 2017 at 1:14 AM ^

His arm was going forward the whole time. Of course you get one angle then they cut away and go back when PSU is snapping the ball on first down. Every other play that was reviewed had multiple angles dissected but not that play. Also, how many meaningless plays were reviewed this weekend but the JT spot wasn't reviewed at all last year...Michigan has an uphill battle every week and that is a fact.

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