Snowflakes Thread: Coaching Vs. Minnesota

Is this the exact opposite of the last game we played, where we lose all game long, until we win?

Agree, the wasting of 17 secs was horrible. Once that was done, made it worse by not kicking a field goal. Minny was playing out of the mind, at home, at night, crowd was rocking, Michigan has their backup QB who is very inexperienced in the game, Minny has an experienced QB playing his best game of his career - all of that you kick and go to OT.

The announcers said Harbaugh was trying to call for a timeout.  It sounds like neither sideline knew the clock was running.

Honestly, this was a good win. Think of the Penn State game in 2013 and how Michigan blew that. This was the same type of atmosphere and we managed to come out ahead, despite losing our starting QB and Minnesota catching every possible break. 

This is the type of win that good teams get and that we haven't been getting the last 7-8 years. 

You have to understand they came off a very rough week with a crazy loss to your rival, plus they played against a team who went all out and played very emotional..now lets hope we have shaken off the rust

Weird game. Minnesota played lights out and Michigan played amazingly bad. Refs sucked again too.

They are not a reasonable team, playing at home.  Leidner played great, and his WRs came up with huge grabs.  That 4th down catch was just incredible.  

Not playing for OT was a HUGE mistake.

This type of attitude after the last decade of Michigan football is baffling.  The team just won a rivalry game on the road at night against an emotionally charged opponent who soundly beat Michigan last year.  There's nothing "expected" about a win like that.

Maybe you're talking about other threads, I haven't read any of them yet, but nobody was questioning him yet in this thread. Either way, anybody who even thinks in terms of people "knowing their place" (even though you mangled the phrase), let alone actually says it or writes it should be kicked in the balls at the very least!

The only people who have attitudes like yours are idiots and assholes, yet while you're ordering us not to criticize the coaches you said they had a bad game this game you fucking assclown! Whether you command us to move onward or not or think you just ignored the bad coaching because you have the move forward attitude, you're full of shit and clueless because no matter how you cut it you did in fact criticize them yourself!

Don't encourage people to be ass kissing hero worshiping compliant obedient sycophants who pledge blind allegiance or to "leaders," "heroes" or "authority figures" and do what their told.

Take your authoritarian mindset and stick it up your ass please, thanks!

We ain't here to play no Emperors New Clothes, there is no "Heil Harbaugh" or non existent god forbid "Heil Wolverine4545," whoever the fuck that NAZI loving moron is!

If there is any criticism of Harbaugh to be made, it MUST be made! Who in the fuck elected you to tell people to hold their tongues and bow down to people? Get your empty, yet destructive, head out of your ass!

Whether he's one of the best coaches around or not, he's obviously not perfect, and even if he had been perfect for every second of his life for 51 straight years, if he ever did or does anything that can be criticized you're insane to think you should just not notice it or be dishonest about it!

Who cares how good he is or might be? If he fucks up he fucks up! Isn't part of what you love that he wants perfection, demands it and tries to get it out of himself, his coaches and his players?

Do you expect him not to criticize his good players because they are good? Do you expect him not to criticize his linemen because he's not a better linemen than they are? Shouldn't he know his place in that context according to your garbage?

I didn't get to see the first half or the 2nd half of the last drive so I can't comment on a lot of the specifics, but I've had legitimate complaints earlier and they might have been proven right tonight.

Number one, that he CLEARLY needs to use Jabrill more on offense and should've done so earlier, and that we could easily be undefeated now if he had. That any advantage of keeping how you'd use him a mystery until you absolutely need him is negated by not actually using him more often.

We obviously missed his talents on opening night, and against State he had to be eased in, and he and the team had never practiced using him in a game yet to get it working smoother and get some stuff under his belt.

However it sounds like nothing was working well in the first half, I don't know why, or how they tried to use him. I'll watch it tomorrow.

Number 2, I've questioned all along not getting snaps and time for a backup qb. Harbaugh himself says you get better by playing, so how do we have a backup ready if he never plays? Haven't we been taught that lesson perpetually over the last several years?

If Wilton had played several times already in garbage time, or even maybe a series or two when Jake was sucking at various times, to give him a chance to see if he's the hot hand, to give him experience, to give Jake a chance to take a breather and get his shit together, to have to watch for a minute and get fired up to do better while he's itching to get back in, & to be coached up for a minute, than he wouldn't have been shell shocked in his first series tonight!

Furthermore, with all the talk about everything that was expected out of Rudock and the reasons he'd be the right choice, and regardless of all the stuff we hear about how well he knows the playbook and gets us in the right plays and the right places and all the other alleged intangibles he brings, the actual results on the field, his actual play and the play of the offense has been clunky, halting, shaky, inconsistent, and under productive. You can't possibly deny that, can you?

I've heard it thousands of times on this blog or in MLive comments that "In Harbaugh we trust," he knows better than us, better than anybody, he's the greatest and smartest in all things at all times. He's the best qb coach, the qb whisperer, if anyone can get the best out of our qb's it's him, we're not there in practice, if Jim says he's the best he's the best and how terrible must the other guys be?

Well, first of all, and it should be obvious, some people come through in games when called upon or given a chance even if they're not showing the best in practice, so maybe that's it, but as far as the eye test goes and believing your lying eyes or what you're being told, didn't plenty of people think Speight looked better and more promising than Rudock in his one little appearance?

He just has a far better touch and throws a better ball and seemed like he could throw better downfield even though his passes were incomplete. When he found nothing to his left and then used his eyes and improvised to his right and found a way to flick it that way to Darboh, those are instincts and reactions that make a difference and that Rudock doesn't have, or hasn't shown.

Maybe Rudock is better at everything leading up to the point he has to actually physically make the play, but even if Speight struggles in various aspects we can't see, he seems much more capable of actually making the plays when it comes time to make the plays.

Although he's way too slow and can't run as quickly or well as Rudock, and that would hurt sometimes, it just has seemed for a while that Jake hasn't really been improving and there's so much he's struggled with, and that someone who hasn't ever really had a chance to play in his career, like Speight or Morris, that they had a better chance to markedly improve with playing time and game experience. I mean maybe how he settled in and played so well on the next drive was a fluke, but it didn't feel that way.

Just think if he had started the year, no matter if he failed, choked or stunk against, no matter if we had been blown out, it would still be the same loss it was anyway. The rest of the game we won before tonight we would've won with Speight, or Morris, or even Bellomy if he was around. But maybe by the the time sparty rolled around the Speight that won the game tonight would've been that much better by then and we beat sparty in a blowout!?

I'm not even saying he should've started the year. Regardless of what I said about practice not always showing how people play in games, Harbaugh had nothing to go on but practice when the season started. But he, or whoever was going to be the backup should've been getting their feet wet a little bit early on, and then at a certain point when Rudock wasn't really getting it done maybe he should've been given a shot for a quarter or a half in one of the games we coudn't lose by that time and see how it went and then maybe get a start if he looked good enough?

I think a guy with better ability learning on the job & hopefully getting better each game, in safe games, with an experienced qb like Rudock as a back up and safety valve, could be a better bet than the safety valve running the show the whole time, and not improving, while the other guy rots, gets no experience and will be under huge pressure and maybe not up to it as the backup in an emergency, such as happened tonight.

 

from a team that has flaws but ran into a very emotional team.

Jelly fired soon?

Is that Kelly coming in from the right? Who is he pushing?

We stopped them on the goal line stand. We didn't luck out. Your friend doesn't understand what luck means. Besides, MN was not doing well in red zone, but M was. So, OT would have been an advantage for M.

9 min review!