MGoNOLA

January 17th, 2018 at 7:50 AM ^

Thoughts are with the young mans family.

If anyone is having thoughts of suicide please reach out to someone close to to or call 1-800-273-8255.

SlothWolverine

January 17th, 2018 at 8:07 AM ^

Unfortunately suicide seems to be much more prevelant than when I was a young man. 

I've talked to my girls about this. Told them if they ever had those kind of thoughts they should come to me, and if they don't, I told them I wouldn't be far behind them if anything ever did happen to them. 

Nothing is worth taking your life over. It's amazing what a new day can bring, and usually does.

LSA Aught One

January 17th, 2018 at 8:55 AM ^

Protip:  Telling your kid that you'll kill yourself if he/she kills him/herself, is a bad plan.

A person in that kind of darkness already feels awful and guilty, so extra guilt is not the answer.  I know you heart is in the right place, but I would suggest stopping at the "come to me" and leave it at that.  The key is letting your people know that you are there for them and that they can come to you with anything at any time.  The worst thing a person in crisis can feel is that nobody will listen.

Cranky Dave

January 17th, 2018 at 10:56 AM ^

Or anyone you’d kill yourself if (insert something they might do) is shitty and counter productive. My Dad committed suicide when I was 19. I’ve dealt with that for the past 30+ years and have felt suicicidak myself at points. I can’t imagine turning to my daughters and saying hey if you kill yourselves. I’m right behind you. For anyone thinking of suicide the idea of a family member or boyfriend or best friend joining them might be attractive as in we can all be together in a better place. I urge you to rethink that approach and focus more on having open communication with your kids, supporting them and getting them help before suicide seems imminent

LSA Aught One

January 17th, 2018 at 8:40 AM ^

At this point, it doesn't matter.  All that matters is that his family and friends find peace and eventually learn to cope.  CTE, Depression or otherwise, it's horrible that he couldn't find a way out of the darkness.  If any of you are ever in that place, please know that there are people who care and will help you.  I've been there twice and both times my support structure is the only thing that kept me afloat.  

Stay.Classy.An…

January 17th, 2018 at 8:52 AM ^

that really make me feel bad for what these student athletes deal with on top of their own personal life issues. I can only imagine how awful he was treated on social media after they got demolished in the Holiday Bowl against MSU. I'm not saying that this was the only reason for his choice, but I imagine a few internet tough guys said some awful things! Your words do mean something people, remember that before you comment about how much a 20 year old sucks at football.

Perkis-Size Me

January 17th, 2018 at 9:14 AM ^

Hard to believe this kid was on TV starting in a nationally televised bowl game only weeks ago. What makes situations like these even worse is that oftentimes, we never even see them coming. 

If you ever feel like this, even just a little bit, talk to someone. Call a friend, call your parents, your significant other, anyone. And if you have no one, pick up the phone and call the Suicide Hotline. There is always someone there to help you. 

Hope his family can find peace.

conradb42

January 17th, 2018 at 9:28 AM ^

I used to think of suicide as very selfish and had little sympathy for the victims. It was actually on this very blog in a forum about Dave Mirra, where some very eloquent posters really showed the error of my thinking.

I hate not understanding things. And I can't understand suicide. But to me, that's part of it. I understand now that I will never understand the WHY of it. That's what makes it so very sad. Not only for the friends and family of the victim, but especially for the victim. My heart aches for anyone who has been affected by suicide.

Again, sorry for the rambling, and I'm not a great writer so if my point doesn't get across well. 

tasnyder01

January 17th, 2018 at 11:06 AM ^

Your life sucks, you hate yourself for bringing everyone else down. Imagine your worst day, and always feeling like that. Its simple. Also, anyone saying there's no selfishness involved in lying. Its not the main motivation, but its not absent either. And no, saying that a human is not perfect does not make me an asshole or insensitive. Sometimes you really do just want the pain to end. Spent years talking with my cousin about this. But whatever. People need to stop lionizing the dead. They're not animals, but its ok to say they weren't perfect either.

conradb42

January 17th, 2018 at 3:06 PM ^

Great points. Thank you. 

I do get the general "your life sucks..." as you mention. I do. But I just mean to say that it is next to impossible for me to imagine that pain without the deep feeling of regret I would have if I did that. And that stops me from completely understanding.

There certainly are people better to speak about suicide than me. I appreciate your point of view.

L'Carpetron Do…

January 17th, 2018 at 9:33 AM ^

 A classmate of my girlfriend's just passed yesterday and the details are murky (although it was likely drug-related). Another one of her classmates took his own life just a few weeks ago.  We're in the midst of a major mental health crisis in this country, especially among young people and on college campuses. Last year I had two old friends/classmates who passed and they were only in their 30s.

CTE may have played a role in this kid's situation but I hope it doesn't get in the way of the mental health discussion that needs to take place. CTE or not, he needed help.  I feel horrible for him.

Also on a side note: what a sad week for Washington State.

Maize and Luke

January 17th, 2018 at 10:21 AM ^

For someone like myself who isn't the most mentally stable, I'm fortunate beyond belief that I have 2 incredible friends to lean on. Obviously I don't know this kids circumstances but I think a lot of victims keep all of their thoughts and emotions bottled up. Not everyone has someone they feel comfortable enough to confide in. It's a sad story that occurs way too often.

Durham Blue

January 17th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^

Sad.  Depression is a horrible, horrible thing.  A close family member has been dealing with it for years and I've had to talk him "off the ledge" so many times.  It fucking sucks because not only is the person helpless but the family/friends that are trying to aid feel helpless against the power of the disease.