OT: Pistons. I can't look.

Much of this has to do with the signing of two garbage FA two years ago.

Once they find a way to get some young talent or picks for Tay or Rip or whomever, we should be alright.  There's a decent young core there I think, but it's going to take some time.

With ownership in limbo, this type of season was kind of expected. Kuester isn't a very good coach, and Joe D can't make any moves until they sell the team. Once that happens, I wouldn't be surprised if they finally blow the team up and start over.

NateVolk wrote:

Anyone who watched us fight Boston for half a decade before finally toppling them in the 80's, has to be sick watching what we've become?

acnumber1 thought:

Would be sick, but stopped watching when Iverson got inked...not hating on AI, but that deal was the opposite of the answer (not the question, but the WRONG answer).

I stopped watching their games the year before Sheed left.  It's not like watching UM lose where it's just disappointing because they lost.  It's disappointing because they put seemingly no effort in and seem satisfied to collect their paychecks.  Remember before Billups left and people talked about their window closing with a team with Rip, Tayshaun, Stuckey, Maxiell?  Who's still on the team?  Dumars has made some great moves in the past but his bad decisions have finally caught up with him

It's sad, and I am ashamed to admit it, but I have stopped watching the Pistons altogether.  I grew up with the Bad Boys (born in '83) and would watch every game I could when I was a kid, often sneaking out of my room after going to bed so I could catch the end.

However, the product on the court has become unwatchable -- the effort is non-existent.  I love Joe D, he is my favorite Piston of all time, but this team has become an absolute train wreck. 

Blot out the years of Teal Uniforms, horse's heads, and #3 picks?  It's ugly, but it's been ugly before. I mean, the list of GM's after McCloskey and before Dumars roll right out of the HoF list...

The main problem is that Detroit is not a preferred destination for free agents in any sport that doesn't involve ice and sticks.  Usually, basketball involves neither.  The FA signings were terrible, and Joe seems to have lost his "magic touch" on trades.  Mostly, though, I think Joe got the best of so many trades that clubs are now afraid to offer him a bona fide deal, and he eventually takes lowball offers because he has to. 

Besides the FA's, though, Joe's real mistake was the Darko Debacle.   The Pistons probably would have won at least one more and possibly two more NBA Championships with Melo.  To me, that was the deal that started the downward spiral.  Sadly, the spiral is now at its "fast" end where the tail is about to break the sound barrier.

Maybe Tom Izzo gets that "offer he can't refuse" at the end of this season.  If his Spartans continue to disappoint him and play with no effort, he may be more likely to take it.  I think he would only have a fifty-fifty chance of success in Detroit, but that's about fifty percent more than Kuester has. 

Ya i really dont know how Joe D still has a job with the pistons...I mean seriously. Horrible drafts, signings, and trades. its embarrassing and i have watched just 1 game and that was the opener.

double post...but ya the sale of this team is really holding this team back.

it's about time joe takes a rainbooooooow outta town. 

lol wut?

The fact that Illitch lowered his bid because of some funky revenue projections says quite a bit about the state of the team.  Until the ownership situation is remedied, this team will continue to struggle. 

I realize this is a Pistons thread, but I live in LA and somewhat follow the Clippers. The alternative is the Lakers and Kobe, and let's just say, I'm not a fan. I've been amazed by Blake Griffin ever since we played them in the NCAA tourney. I realize that's not a long time, particularly considering he was out all last year, but that guy is just ridiculous. He practically gets eye-level with the rim on some of his dunks. I was just thinking today how the Spurs, Celtics, etc. had dramatic improvements when they added Duncan, Bird, etc., but the Clippers have only gotten worse, if that's possible. 

This team is really tough to watch, no doubt.  But we've been there before and we'll get back again.  I'm not really sure which pieces we should keep, especially Stuckey...  I like the way Charlie V plays, and as far as Ben Gordon goes, it's tough to say.  We have like 5 two-guards, so he doesn't get the shots he needs to get hot and score a bunch.

By the way, I've watched probably 15 games this year.  I think I've maybe seen two wins.

I watched the game with my old man tonight.  As we continually watched Blake Griffin and the the rest of the Clippers get uncontested dunks every other time down the floor, my dad mentioned how guys like Laimbeer and Mahorn would have never stood for that.  Now I realize that basketball isn't as rough now as it was back then and there will never be another Bad Boys squad, but it would be nice (for the fans at least) for the players to show a little passion (and that doesn't mean Rip crying like a little girl to the refs every time he doesn't get a call).  I usually don't condone booing at any sporting events, but the lack of effort tonight deserved it. 

Brian Cook  dropped 12 on the Piston's tonight.