OT: The Pac 10 is horrible
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:45 AM ^
Big East is worse. Took them forever to get a bowl eligible team out of 'Cuse. Also all hail UConn their champion.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:48 AM ^
ranked as the #1 conference the country, in large part due to their OOC performances. Seems that you're new to MGoBlog posting; I'd recommend backing up opinions like this with more than one data point.
They have two 11 win teams, and I think you're objectively wrong about Washington:
1 PAC-10 (A) = 80.40 80.98 ( 1) TEAMS= 10 80.75 ( 1) College Football 2010 through games of November 27 Saturday the BCS uses the ELO_CHESS from here HOME ADVANTAGE= 3.02 RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | ELO_CHESS | PREDICTOR 1 Oregon A = 96.23 11 0 74.57( 19) 1 0 | 4 0 | 94.85 2 | 97.39 2 2 Stanford A = 94.48 11 1 76.70( 8) 0 1 | 5 1 | 91.90 4 | 97.95 1 20 Arizona A = 83.23 7 4 76.48( 11) 0 2 | 1 4 | 81.03 21 | 85.41 15 23 Southern California A = 81.33 7 5 78.34( 6) 0 2 | 2 4 | 79.96 24 | 82.26 25 26 Arizona State A = 79.86 5 6 77.73( 7) 0 2 | 0 5 | 76.35 36 | 84.15 20 28 Oregon State A = 79.52 5 6 80.43( 3) 0 3 | 3 3 | 77.84 29 | 80.85 29 33 California A = 78.48 5 7 78.51( 5) 0 2 | 1 6 | 75.96 38 | 80.98 28 41 Washington A = 75.82 5 6 80.97( 1) 0 2 | 2 5 | 78.48 27 | 72.77 50 55 UCLA A = 72.69 4 7 79.43( 4) 0 2 | 1 4 | 74.16 50 | 70.60 65 75 Washington State A = 68.11 2 9 80.92( 2) 0 2 | 1 6 | 69.40 70 | 66.18 81
(http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc10.htm?loc=interstitialskip)
December 3rd, 2010 at 2:09 AM ^
That table shows 8 data points that show just how bad the conference actually is. Two great teams, two teams about as good as Michigan, five sub-500 teams, and Washington St. That's not a strong conference, I don't care what Sagarin says.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:32 AM ^
A mediocre Arizona State team nearly beat (should have beat) our Rose Bowl rep - Wisconsin - in Wisconsin and Arizona beat Iowa. I'm trying to come up with an impressive OOC victory for the Big 10 this year and I'm drawing a blank. OSU hasn't beaten anyone better than 7-5, except for Ohio U who was 8-4. MSU's most impressive OOC win was a luck victory vs. ND at home. Wisconsin - I guess their survival against ASU was the most impressive OOC win for them.
As mediocre as the Pac 10 may seem, that conference is still probably better than the Big 10 unfortunately.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:17 AM ^
WE BEAT THE BIG EAST CHAMPION* YA HERRRRRRRRD!!
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When was the last time Wisconsin football had a strong start? Just curious. They do this every single year. They struggle against their cupcakes then rage hard as the season goes on.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:48 AM ^
The Pac 10 is what the Big Ten used to be. Two elite teams at the top and everyone else. Remember those days?
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:49 AM ^
i live here in seattle. The radio host are talking right how theyre most likely going to the holiday bowl.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:17 AM ^
listening to the same thing. I love how the "OMG its so cold out" chatter is such a large talking point. Being new to the Pacific Northwest, is it not common to play in snow?
December 3rd, 2010 at 3:56 AM ^
I also live in Seattle. It has been unusually cold and snowy so far this year. But I understand your shock; as a native Midwesterner, the local overreaction to snow seems to border on hysteria.
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:06 AM ^
Agreed, but I it lost some of its humor when I saw how badly they drove in it...all of the sudden their hysteria threatened my beloved 1973 Pinto...
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 AM ^
Until its bottom rusted out I drove a graffiti'd Pinto in grad school....
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:53 AM ^
lost any respect I had for it when USC lost to ND.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:58 AM ^
Gotta love how Arizona lost to Arizona State tonight on a blocked extra point. I am very thankful that didn't happen to us this year.
December 3rd, 2010 at 2:32 AM ^
They blocked two extra points, one to force overtime, and one for the win. Here in Tempe the kids went NUTS. Sorry ,just had to say it. It is nice to see one of my teams win. It also took the sting of Dee decommitting away for a little bit.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:59 AM ^
Remember ASU only lost to Wiscy on a blocked PAT?
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:00 AM ^
Sweet redemption for them as I'm sure they would take a win over their rival over the Wisky one.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:01 AM ^
The pac 10 is very weak right now... The big ten and sec are by far the best conferences this year.. the big ten and sec are better from top to bottom. the pac 10 is very overrated this year
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:21 AM ^
Overrated? Who's rating the Pac 10 so high right now? Most Pac 10 people I've heard freely admit that this is a down year for the conference as a whole.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:02 AM ^
I can't say this is all that different than most major conferences these days. Great teams at the top, a pile of crap at the bottom
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:06 AM ^
I don't think the Pac-10 is great, but if oregon wins the MNC then the conference won't look as bad.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:19 AM ^
We'll see how they look in the bowl games but to me it seems the pac-10 has regressed as the year's gone on, strange at that sounds. Specifically I thought Oregon State and the Arizona schools looked much more competent early in the year.
SC losing Barkley hurt them. Oregon State losing James Rogers was killer. Arizona State just never got consistent all year even though they showed huge promise against Wisconsin (them not winning that game was ridiculous it was right there for them... bad calls and stupid mistakes). UCLA looked... well even when they beat Texas that just looked more like Texas sucking. But yeah. It counts in that OOC ranking. Arizona has been competitive but scared shitless of their insane coach. And so on.
So we'll see how they look in the bowl games. My guess is it won't be so good but let's see.
December 3rd, 2010 at 2:12 AM ^
Cal lost their starting quarterback too, which was a big blow. He wasn't great, but his backup was awful. They held Oregon to 15 points, but Cal's defense outscored their offense in that game. Definitely could have won with a few completed passes.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:36 AM ^
the snow we got a few weeks ago is pretty rare. there are only about 10-15 days a year where snows on the ground.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:26 AM ^
What is is your adjective for the Big East and the ACC, both of which are worse?
Several factors you need top consider about the Pac 10:
1) They play 9 conference games, rather than 8 in the Big Ten, so half the conference gets an extra loss.
2) On average, they play harder non-conference schedules. Look it up. Fewer of them have a I-AA opponent on their schedule; more of them have multiple AQ opponents on their schedule. And that doesn’t even count Oregon State, which played an AQ school (Louisville) plus both Boise State and TCU.
In spite of all that, if you add up the total winning percentage of the Big Ten and the Pac 10, they aren’t very far apart.
The Big Ten has three teams in the top 10 (to two for the Pac 10), but the Pac 10 has two in the top 5 (to one for the Big Ten).
In the three head-to-head games between the Pac 10 and the Big Ten, the Pac 10 went 2-1, and their only loss was by a single point (Arizona State at Wisconsin). That is not bad, considering that Wisconsin shredded almost everyone else on their schedule.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:54 AM ^
How dare you use facts and shit. One of their teams lost to ND in one game of the season! That says enough. If it doesn't. I will ignore their non-conference schedule and records in those games as it doesn't hold true to what I think, Sagarin be damned!
No one is saying that the PAC 10 is most definitely the hardest conference out there, but the teams out west are playing much tougher schedules than any one else. Their records reflect that.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:28 AM ^
Nothing is guaranteed, I bet that Oregon State figured they had an easy victory over the Cougars...in Corvallis no less! Look no further than AZ/ASU last nite: at home against a backup QB in a game that would secure their third straight 8-win season, the 'Cats fell victim to the RIVALRY GAME.
Of course, if Alex Zendejas (Tony's kid?) could make a PAT...