OT: Chaos at Ford Field, Game 'Sold Out'
While this will no doubt test the boundaries of OT, since I'm a civilian now and think this is highly interesting given its location, the game, what will emerge from the national MSM, etc:
Apparently the free giveaway of tickets to tonight's Vikings/Giants game has led to utter chaos. 'Sources' (lulz) indicate that there was absolutely zero coordination or balance to the event and Ford Field employees more or less gave tickets away with zero interest in restrictions. This led to, as one person put it via Twitter,
- People were about to riot when the line got cut off. There's a good chance free ticket people will get shutout of the game
- @Buccigross some people were grabbing 30 tickets a person and going back in line. There was no security or order in lines
- Messed up situation at #fordfield people who showed up after 8am probably missed out for the 9am tickets
This could have been easily prevented by making tickets for the game $5 with all proceeds donated to the Salvation Army, etc.
So, for any of the MGoBoarders who were hoping to get tickets - don't expect too much. Nor should you, in my opinion, pay for tickets to individuals who were undoubtedly the ones grabbing 30 per person.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:15 PM ^
Smart move by the NFL. Roger Goodell is really showing strong leadership and confidence in his decision-making.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:58 PM ^
Must have taken one of those free leadership seminars offered by Dave Brandon - the kind that are advertised on late night TV. He can also become a millionaire by investing in real estate.
December 13th, 2010 at 4:07 PM ^
Congrats to Geaux_blue on becoming a citizen.
December 13th, 2010 at 4:48 PM ^
meant civilian
December 13th, 2010 at 5:28 PM ^
It's the sound of no one disagreeing with you.
EDIT: Guess I need to put /s.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:16 PM ^
Lo, the tragedy of the commons...
December 13th, 2010 at 2:44 PM ^
Bread and Circuses for the commoners. So easy to appease the general populace...
December 13th, 2010 at 4:19 PM ^
The Nobel in Economics last year or the year before actually disproved the tragedy of the commons. What the author found was that in communities with "commons" those who used the pastures or fishing grounds policed their usage and came up with a system of allocation.
/geekspeek
Found it. Elinore Ostram http://tinyurl.com/yhlxozn
December 13th, 2010 at 6:55 PM ^
Well, that is until Detroit Lions fans proved it again this morning...
(Ostram's work is interesting, and at one level clearly stands in contrast to TOTC, which posits rational self-interest will result in over-consumption of public goods; Ostram argues that collective-communal arrangements have lead to sustainable consumption in some parts of the world. One of her key assumptions, however, is that those who are not entitled to consume will be excluded, which makes the resource not-so-much a "commons.")
December 13th, 2010 at 7:34 PM ^
the Tragedy of the Commons, nor does she claim to (see this video of her talking lucidly about it here). She agrees that the Tragedy of the Commons does occur. Her contribution is to note that the Tragedy is not an inevitable outcome of the classic scenario, since communities of economic actors can and do sustain resources through community-enforced rules and regulations. The point is that you don't need an outside authority (the Government) to intervene in all cases.
December 13th, 2010 at 9:40 PM ^
What other sports sites would you find a debate on the tragedy of the commons
December 13th, 2010 at 2:16 PM ^
My family got 9 tickets :) finally get to see some MNF in Detroit
December 13th, 2010 at 2:17 PM ^
I wonder how many people will actually show up.
December 14th, 2010 at 1:05 AM ^
I had a great time.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:18 PM ^
when they had the wild fires in san diego
I think they had donations that got you into the game for free, once you made a donation !
should of been something similar for sure !
December 13th, 2010 at 2:19 PM ^
This was so avoidable. All they had to do is hire Dave Brandon's and Jim Delany's consultants to handle this and it would have turned out fine.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:28 PM ^
And then the Giants are part of conference expansion to grab the New York market.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:34 PM ^
or look at the front page. Delaney epic fail on logo and teams assigned to division's. The leaders and best not in the Leaders division WTF.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:43 PM ^
Sad. Are you really going to force everyone to sign their posts with a "/s"?
December 13th, 2010 at 2:22 PM ^
I completely agree with the donation. I was hoping that tickets wouldn't be free, exactly to avoid this mess. Now I'm scrambling around trying to buy tickets from people off craigslist. People are asking for ridiculous amounts like $50 apiece for supposedly free tickets. I expect Ford Field to be half empty, but Roger Goodell still won't learn from it.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:25 PM ^
"Giving free tickets away to an NFL game in Detroit? Hmmmmm.... what could go wrong?"
It's yet another sign of how incredibly incompetent the WC Ford regime is. A twelve-year old could have predicted that problems would occur if there were no restrictions of any sort.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:12 PM ^
I don't think it was the Lions' call regarding making the tickets free......it came from the league.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:40 PM ^
I'm sure you're correct, but it was up to the front office people in Detroit to call Goodell's office and say, "You're out of your fucking minds if you don't think that announcing "free tickets" to the population of one of the most economically depressed and crime-ridden cities in the country isn't an invitation to trouble, and we won't cooperate—it's our stadium, in case you forgot—unless you approach this differently."
God knows, they have enough trouble with drunken, asshole fans who can afford the hundreds of dollars it costs to attend games on a seasonal basis. You open up the facility to thousands of people with no skin in the game, so to speak, and you're just begging for trouble.
It's the same the world over, in every culture and in every nation: when the authorities announce they will be handing out normally valuable items for free, first come first served, no questions asked, nothing required as collateral, problems will ensue at the distribution point.
December 13th, 2010 at 6:04 PM ^
I agree -- Normally at a public event when free T-Shirts or Pizzas are being given away, people go nuts in order to be one of the select few to get chosen. I can't even imagine what kind of zoo Ford Field was like this morning when tickets to a prime time NFL game were being given away for free.
December 13th, 2010 at 6:17 PM ^
We can't expect much better when these are the people who run Detroit.
If you live out of Michigan and haven't seen Monica Conyers and Ken Cokcrel Outburst it is a much watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZQLxVO-qjM
Monica Conyers
Barbara-Rose-do-you-like-my-tiara?-Collins
December 13th, 2010 at 7:29 PM ^
I thought this mindless chatter was not allowed on here. The "only in Detroit" garbage is annoying enough on the Freep. Leave that crap there and provide something of benefit like "what would Harbaugh do" or half naked woman folk.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:25 PM ^
I hope the Michigan hatred of Favre is evident in the stands tonight. We need you!
December 13th, 2010 at 2:28 PM ^
I'll be there booing Favre if he steps on the field... Don't you worry.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:39 PM ^
That's so Detroit of them. They can't even give away tickets properly. If Kwame were still in office it would just be him and his entourage and a bunch of strippers at the game.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:52 PM ^
I am hearing that it is first-come, first-serve amongst those with Vikings tickets, Lions tickets, and this morning's free tickets, with no one gauranteed a seat. Why not just open up the doors, count to near capacity, then lock em up? Why even bother with the ticket fiasco?
December 13th, 2010 at 3:02 PM ^
Whoever came up with this idea needs to be locked up.
And I'm setting the over/under on arrests at 3.5.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:09 PM ^
since Michigan Stadium typically has around 9 or so per football game and knowing the crime rate of the city of Detroit, I am taking the over...
December 13th, 2010 at 5:21 PM ^
I'm taking the over. Free money.
December 13th, 2010 at 5:51 PM ^
I would expect the O/U to start in at least double figures and let the betting drive it up or down. Way too much confidence in the good people of Detroit.
December 13th, 2010 at 6:19 PM ^
I read that this was the NFL's decision not Detroits.
December 13th, 2010 at 6:19 PM ^
I read that this was the NFL's decision not Detroits.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:08 PM ^
only in Detroit...The scene sounds similar to the near riots at the Cobo last winter for unemployment benefits registration. Now I am glad I am not going to the game. Proctoring and grading final exams tonight sounds more enjoyable than the circus at Ford Field.
December 13th, 2010 at 4:16 PM ^
I can think of a lot of places where giving out unlimited free tickets could be a problem.
December 13th, 2010 at 4:27 PM ^
"Only in Detroit" may not be accurate, but it is VERY Detroit.
People get overexcited about crap like this here. We did a great job with the Super Bowl five years ago, but I remember being so embarrassed every time reports came in of a b-list celebrity checking into their hotels that week. Very littlest big city in America feel.
This mentality of being so stoked when something hits your town makes for great concert audiences (several musical artists have called Detroit one of the best crowds in the world - and they don't just say it when they are on stage). But at other times it just makes me think "God my people really need to get a life."
December 13th, 2010 at 5:23 PM ^
I am just saying this just points to the economically depressed Detroit citizens propensity for causing a scene over smallest thing. It has been little over a year since there was a near riot at Cobo when the city of Detroit held registration for unemployment benefits during the height of the automobile recession. Don't get me started on the fights at Detroit Public School board meetings. Unfortunately, the only time I hear about school board meetings in Detroit is when one of the board members is escorted out in handcuffs on WXYZ Abc. It is unfortunate since there are many wonderful people in Detroit that just want to get out of negative cloud that hangs over the city. I am confident that Mayor Bing is the right man, but he has such an impossible job.
December 13th, 2010 at 5:24 PM ^
"It is unfortunate since there are many wonderful people in suburban Detroit that just want to get out of negative cloud that hangs over the city."
Fixed it for you.
December 13th, 2010 at 4:16 PM ^
This story is really pathetic.
How big of a loser do you have to be to, on Monday afternoon, in snowy, zero-degree temperatures, be scavenging after free tickets to a game that doesn't even involve your team?
Honestly, I was thinking about going out to this game. But I knew the people around me would probably be unbearable. Looks like I was right.
December 13th, 2010 at 4:31 PM ^
December 13th, 2010 at 4:35 PM ^
Well that makes me feel better about not waking up early and driving out in this weather for that clusterfuck.
December 13th, 2010 at 5:48 PM ^
...is that the Red Wings drop the puck at the same time the Minny-NYG game gets underway.
I am a Wings fan, and I know the fan base is rabid, but it would be awful press for the Red Wings and the NHL if the free NFL contest results in a large number of empty seats at the Joe tonight.
December 13th, 2010 at 5:51 PM ^
With what Wings tickets cost? I highly doubt that the free NFL game will have ANY effect on the attendance at the Joe.
December 13th, 2010 at 5:53 PM ^
how many empty seats there are for the game.
My brother and some of his friends headed over with the hopes of getting tickets. They intended to get there at 9 AM but driving conditions didn't cooperate and they ended up missing out.
He said asking price from those who snagged extras was up to $60 per.... As much as I despise scalpers, they are not the ones to blame.
December 13th, 2010 at 7:45 PM ^
The news was interviewing some of those scalping, and it's hard not to blame them somewhat. They jump from line to line and grab dozens of free tickets so they can turn around and tell the family of 6 from west michigan that are huge Viking fans that they each have to pay $100+ to see their favorite team. What a joke.
December 13th, 2010 at 9:10 PM ^
blaming individuals for doing what is in the realm of what was being allowed.
The bottom line is that the ticket distribution was poorly organized.
And where were the authorities? How difficult is it to bust people for scalping when the tickets were, you know, free?
December 13th, 2010 at 7:17 PM ^
Is the game on TV in SE Michigan?