OT: Buckeyes lose to D2 Rollins (UPDATE: & NAIA Webber Int'l)

Submitted by formerlyanonymous on
Muhahahahaha! The Buckeyes, consensus to win the Big Ten continue to struggle. They lost to Bethune-Cookman (meh loss) and Division II Rollins. Had to share that. The Big Ten is shaping up to be a two horse race between Michigan and Michigan State (who don't actually play each other IN conference this year). UPDATE: It's final. OSU loses 9-0 to the Webber International Warriors of the NAIA. Oh happy day!

formerlyanonymous

March 24th, 2010 at 9:52 PM ^

As mentioned above, there's 11 teams in the BigTen, so they rotate off for two years very infrequently. This is one of those times. We do have a home and home midweek series set up with them in May. This probably works well as it's a much better RPI team than we would normally play in the midweek, especially with our other major midweek opponent (Notre Dame) having a bad year.

Alton

March 24th, 2010 at 11:28 PM ^

Actually 10 teams--no Wisconsin--but each team only plays an 8-weekend schedule, so everybody misses 1 opponent each year. They could play a full round robin, but the Big Ten obviously thinks it's too early for baseball (but not softball) this weekend. After that, it's 8 straight weekends of conference baseball, followed by the conference tournament. I still think they should go to the full round robin. There are really 3 different ways to do that: (1) start 1 weekend earlier--the same weekend that MAC baseball and Big Ten softball start; (2) go 1 weekend longer, and eliminate the conference tournament; or (3) play the 9th conference series in Florida in February. Either the weekend before or the weekend after the Big Ten-Big East challenge. Now that the southern schools have added a week back onto the schedule in February, I kind of like option 3.

formerlyanonymous

March 25th, 2010 at 9:19 AM ^

Yeah, don't know what I was thinking there. It is the 9 week "regular season" schedule that hurts. I'm personally a fan of the round robin, but it comes with a price. Unlike softball, the BigTen isn't a very good conference. Playing more games against the BigTen can bring down your RPI if it's the right team. That's why we've gone from 4 game weekends to 3 game weekends as of last year. That cut off 8 games that really didn't help anyone's RPI. Michigan has adjusted to play an extra weekend of tough games. Ohio State adjusted to play a D2 and a NAIA team this week. This same lowering of the RPI reason is why I think we've kept the conference tournament. It allows our top 6 teams to play teams with higher RPIs in most cases. Indiana winning it last year came from nowhere. If the BigTen were a stronger conference, I'd be down for eliminating the tournament, but in the current set up, that's tough. As far as option 1, weather does become an issue many years. Home opening weekend and even the week that opens Big Ten play have repeated been cut short or totally canceled due to weather. This being an El Nino year (which brings slightly above average temperatures to the Midwest earlier) has helped out a bit with the weather, but that's not something to rely on every season. Perhaps if the week was added to the end of the season, they would add it, but I'm not sure. #3 is an intriguing idea, but I wonder if the coaches will want to chance a BigTen series during the first or two that they spend outside practicing. Sure, all teams are at a disadvantage, but I'd rather be playing my conference schedule, the schedule that matters, when I'm playing my best baseball.

formerlyanonymous

March 25th, 2010 at 12:46 PM ^

It's coach Todd's prospective that if they get enough wins (regardless of who they're against), and they can win the BigTen regular season/tournament, they will get to host a regional. It's worked in the past, but I think that's a fading proposition. So he lines his schedule up with maybe 2-3 games against teams expected to be in the top 30 and the rest with cupcakes.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

March 25th, 2010 at 1:57 PM ^

LOL. He should ask a UVA fan about what happens when you go 43-12 and win the conference tournament. You get a regional 2 seed and you get shipped all the way to California to face Irvine and Stephen Strasburg State. Fading proposition....I'd say those days are over. I hope the committee looks upon OSU as kindly as they did UVA last year. Maybe they can get fed to Florida State again. NAIA....seriously.

formerlyanonymous

March 25th, 2010 at 2:01 PM ^

If you can manage a big win or two, it can be done. The committee loves the Midwest/Northern token regional. Louisville all but has it sewn up this year. They're "north enough" as part of the Big East. If you look at OSU last year, the same thing happened. They got shipped to the same regional as UGa and FSU. They went 2-2, with both losing scores by 20+ runs, including the FSU 32 run lead in the 5th inning.

Hoken's Heroes

March 25th, 2010 at 12:50 AM ^

... not one circle j**ker on here has brought up that this is an "uninformative" post! Looks like they hibernate when football isn't on. Edit... looks like the CJ aren't in hibernation after all!

formerlyanonymous

March 25th, 2010 at 9:08 AM ^

Conference play starts next weekend. MSU is doing really well though. They've got a great 1-2 combo to start their rotation and they are actually hitting the ball this year (as compared to last with great starting pitching with no offense). They lack a "big win", but they've handily taken care of teams they should have.

formerlyanonymous

March 25th, 2010 at 1:07 PM ^

Nah, that'd be Minnesota losing to North Dakota State last week. I mean, at least North Dakota State is a really good D2 team. While Minnesota was supposed to be good this year, that's not a horrible and catastrophic loss when viewed by the local, knowledgeable fan base, it's just a really bad one. I'd compare that to our ASU loss, as I expected a close game settled by a last minute defensive stand. ASU was a good team and our weakness. NDSU would be comparable to Minnesota. OSU though, they lost to a meh D2 school. This would be like if we had loss to DSU last year.

tpilews

March 25th, 2010 at 1:24 PM ^

The thing with baseball is that depending on a team's schedule, you could be looking at a pitching matchup of one team's #1 vs. another team's #4 or #5. I don't know the details behind each team, but I know that D2 baseball down south is legit, probably more competitive than some northern D1 teams. Rollins also beat the #12 team in the nation last week, so they could be hot right now.

formerlyanonymous

March 25th, 2010 at 3:44 PM ^

The first three notes on their Webber Int'l release:
  • It's a nice park at Webber International. Right on a lake in Babson Park and the field looks pretty well manicured.
  • Once the bus came within about five miles of Webber International, all we saw were orange groves everywhere.
  • It's pretty difficult to compare the size of these schools. While the autumn 2009 enrollment at Ohio State was 52,715 for the Columbus campus, Webber International currently has 617 students.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

March 25th, 2010 at 5:29 PM ^

There needs to be a large student contingent at the OSU series later this season, armed with some choice chants and heckles. Maybe the hockey crowd can get interested in baseball between now and then.