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September 24th, 2023 at 2:48 PM ^

If the situation is that he could have run out an 11th man, drawing a penalty, giving OSU a free shot with a chance for an untimed down if the free shot failed, then yes, it makes sense that he wouldn't do that.

But it's not clear to me that is actually the situation.

They came out of a timeout with ten players and ran two plays with ten players. When did he notice this problem?

Even if OSU was going tempo (they weren't), it's not like he had to get someone off the field and someone else on without getting hit with an illegal substitution. All he had to do was have one person run onto the field.

The only way that, as I understand it, could result in a penalty is if the player came on the field at or after the snap (in which case he didn't actually realize it in time) or if the player came onto the field behind the line of scrimmage and got caught there at the snap for an offsides. Easy to avoid, just don't enter the field from behind the line of scrimmage. But again, if you're trying to have someone run into position that late, you haven't really noticed the problem and made a conscious decision to not do it; you just simply failed to get your personnel on the field.

In theory, what they should have done is have the defensive tackle plow into the center before the snap for a dead ball encroachment, half the distance to the goal. But there would be no way to actually communicate that to the players on the field.

 

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JonathanE

September 25th, 2023 at 1:28 AM ^

As skegemogpoint pointed out, because the offense substituted by bringing in Trayanum for Henderson, the officials will stand over the ball to let the defense substitute if Freeman had run someone onto the field. That Freeman admits for two plays he knew they were playing a man short, when Ohio State substituted before each play is incompetence. 

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SF Wolverine

September 24th, 2023 at 9:42 AM ^

Freeman said he KNEW they had 10, but opted to not take a chance at giving OSU another play.  Um......  I think you might want to look at that one on your odds chart.  Worst case is they gat another play from 18 inches closer.  At that place on the field and time in the game, seems to me you want a full complement.

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njvictor

September 24th, 2023 at 10:14 AM ^

OSU's luck in these situations in absolutely insane:

  • Michigan where the JT was short, but the OSU fan refs gave it to him anyway
  • Maryland game where the Maryland QB missed a less than 10 yard pass to a wide open WR in the endzone which would've been the game winning TD
  • This game where Marcus Freeman decided to pass the ball on their final possession instead of burning the clock with their RB was dominating, letting up a huge pass to the 1 with 8 in coverage, and only putting 10 men on the field for the final play

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Yo_Blue

September 24th, 2023 at 11:29 AM ^

I know ESPN would never get anything wrong, but they only show 10 OSU players in their screen grabs. Could be a WR to the top of the screen with a defender. Just saying...

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