Notable head coaching records through 31 games
October 20th, 2017 at 9:11 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 11:32 AM ^
Just have to disagree with your premise that FSU won on both lines. If they had done that, Michigan would not have recovered enough to take the lead late in the game. Save for shitty luck on a KO return (seriously - how many tackles on ST did Glasgow miss last year?), Michigan wins that game.
October 20th, 2017 at 12:11 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 8:13 AM ^
This team will not be getting "thumped" by anyone. Because defense. Might not win it, but they won't get thumped.
October 20th, 2017 at 12:06 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 8:16 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 8:42 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 9:44 AM ^
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Well, and I agree with your perspectives, too.
October 20th, 2017 at 11:36 AM ^
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October 20th, 2017 at 6:27 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 6:46 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 8:38 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 6:54 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 8:23 AM ^
The rivals record is stupid? Agree to disagree, pal.
Harbaugh can win a ton of games and put a shitload of kids in the NFL, and that really is all great. But if he loses to MSU and OSU every single year, that's a pretty hollow on-field legacy to leave behind. You career at Michigan is ultimately judged by what you do, or don't do, in those games. I'm not saying he should win those games every year, but for the money he's being paid he should be doing far better than 1-4, probably soon to be 1-5.
And so the hell what if other coaches don't prepare kids for pro-level schemes?Meyer has ZERO obligation to teach kids an NFL scheme. His scheme works and wins titles. Why the hell would he move away from that? His only obligation to OSU and to his players is to win. And he wins big. And he still gets whatever recruits he wants, and still sends a ton of them, on both sides of the ball, to the NFL. And many of them are doing incredibly well there. So your argument there doesn't hold a lot of water.
October 20th, 2017 at 8:49 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 8:56 AM ^
How about going max protect on that punt or not going 5 wide in the pouring rain and having your team prepared coming off of a by week? Had he done that then Harbaugh would be a better coach.
October 20th, 2017 at 1:07 PM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 9:06 AM ^
True, luck is involved to a certain degree, but you shouldn't consistently put yourself in a position to where you have to rely on luck to win games. Sometimes it's necessary and you just find yourself in those types of games. I get it. But you can look at those games you mentioned several other ways:
If the offense could pick up one measly first down in the fourth quarter of last year's OSU game, or if Speight doesn't turn the ball over three times, Michigan isn't in position to have to rely on luck in OT to win a game. The game is over at the end of regulation. You can blame the players, sure. But that's also on coaching. When the chips were down they just couldn't put OSU away when they had the chance.
OSU 2015 is all on the coaching. They just weren't prepared. Especially on the defensive side.
2017 MSU - We had five turnovers of our own. Five. Before you blame the monsoon, MSU had to play in the same weather, and they found ways to take care of the football and not shoot themselves in the foot over and over and over.
2015 MSU - again, one more first down ices that game. Just one more.
October 20th, 2017 at 8:54 AM ^
The "rivals" record matters because if you don't beat your rivals, you're not winning the Big 10 East.
In Saban's 3rd year at Bama, he won a national title
In Urban's 3rd year at OSU, he won a national title
In Kelley's 3rd year at ND, the team played for a national title
Dabo's 3rd year was garbage, Franklin's 3rd year at Pederast St he won the B10 and played in the Rose Bowl.
Getting kids drafted is great, but Harbaugh isn't getting paid to get kids drafted. He's getting paid to win - inclusive of beating OSU and MSU.
October 20th, 2017 at 8:00 AM ^
Of course rivalry games don't count for more than regular games.... well, to anyone except fans.
Its a personal thing. But, not really the way to evaluate wins and losses.
Bo and Woody helped make OSU/UM a big rivalry because it was personal to them. It became personal to the fan bases.
Dantonio has made the MSU/UM game personal to him. While most in the state feel similarly, Michigan fans are slow to warm up to it as a personal rivalry.
Harbaugh is obviously a great coach with a great track record. The above shows he is well on his way at Michigan.
October 20th, 2017 at 8:55 AM ^
This board would have been ready to fire Bo by 1975. At that point he'd had the historic upset of Ohio State in 1969 and a close win over a 6-4 Ohio State team in 1971 sandwiched around a decisive loss in 1970.
Then from 1972 to 1975 comes three close losses and a tie. Particularly painful were the way they lost (or tied) those games. In 1972, they couldn't run it in on 8 plays from the 1 and lost by three. In 1973 (the tie) and 1974 they missed field goals, including a chip shot at the end of the 1974 game. In 1975 Bo's freshman quarterback three three interceptions and they lost by a touchdown. That freshman quarterback struggled all year long and ended up completing less than a third of his passes for the entire year.
October 20th, 2017 at 10:13 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 10:14 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 2:30 PM ^
Pretty amazing.
October 20th, 2017 at 9:35 AM ^
October 20th, 2017 at 10:52 AM ^
So far his record implies he's been great considering the circumstances he inherited. He inherited a decent amount of talent, particularly on the defensive side of the ball in his first two years. His defenses have played pretty well in all 3 years. He found and developed Jake Rudock. They won 10 games in 2015 with a close loss to Utah and a random punter issue against MSU, and got handled by OSU. They looked amazing in the bowl against FLA. In 2016, he got pretty good production out of Speight minus one game. He lost a close game to Iowa and lost to another rival, this time OSU on a random call. They barely lost to FSU even when they couldn't pass block and didn't have Peppers. This years offensive struggles were expected. Maybe we expected the QB, o-line, and young WRs to be better, but we knew there would be a learning curve. I think the defense is exceeding expectations.
There are areas of concern. How long should it take to build a cohesive o-line? He inherited the RT problem. How long does it take a new QB to be comfortable in his offense? Brandon Peters will have to answer that question sometime between Rutgers and sometime next season. Is the offensive coaching/playcalling on par with the defensive coaching/play calling? These are all legitimate concerns, but so far all in all he's been great considering the circumstances with a few things left to iron out.
In the next 2 years however I think given his salary, name, UM's considerable resources, and the recruiting success, fans are going to expect a win over OSU and a conference championship. If that doesn't happen in the first 5 years it will be a tough pill to swallow.
October 20th, 2017 at 2:38 PM ^
He's the BEST coach we could EVER hope for. He is one of the absolute best football coaches on planet Earth, is in the top 5 in win percentage as an NFL coach, made Stanford (STANFORD) relevant even long after his departure, and has met with unbridled success everywhere he has been a head coach.
There are literally only a handful of football coaches on the planet that could even be considered to be "better" than JH. Not college coaches, not coaches on the market...all living coaches. Period.
Our struggles now show just how badly our offensive cupboards were under Hoke and how decimated our program was in the transfer over to Rich Rod.
The inane collective questioning Harbaugh's results up to this point need to quit whining, STFU, and get on board.
Be as good of a fan as he is a coach and everyone will be happy.
Go Blue.