Morris=Gardner

Seriously though, Who the FUCK works on ball security with these kids?  Everybody carries like a loaf of wonder bread.

This team may not win 4 games.  Hoke has no chance to get a fifth year.  They are the Lions!!!  Every 3-4 years hope for a real coach to get hired.

He's younger. He fits the offense better. He's the (immediate) future. We know what we have with DG and it's not good. This season is a rebuilding season. It's impossible to judge Morris based on a few turnovers. He's been thrown into a couple games cold. Give the kid a chance to grow. Some of you people are pathetic with this insane pessimism.

He'll probably start in 2015 - not that I even want to think about Michigan football's direction.

Morris is a sophomore making sophomore mistakes.
Gardner is a fifth year senior making sophomore mistakes.

morris=/= gardner

Gardner was broken somewhere along the way last year.  He has tunnel vision right now.  I would rather go with the gunslinger.  At least he is trying to spread the ball around.

Yeah, and one's about 19 while the other one is like 27 at this point. 

Morris is like 0/8 at this point on passes over 20 yards in his career with 3 interceptions. He isn't better than Gardner at this point, looking at his performance.  But watching Gardner continually struggle with mechanics and not developing as passer isn't doing anything.

Equal? Morris is far worse than Gardner at this point.

We've seen Gardner play exceptionally well. We've seen him win many football games. We've never seen any of that from Shane. Not even a glimpse of anything to show that he should overtake Gardner as the starter. He has been flat out terrible.

This seems so simple.  Gardner is broken as a QB, he has no confidence, can't read a defense and is terrified of getting killed.  We need 8 OL out there a QB a RB and a WR.  This is ridiculous

 

Gardner= 5th year senior with a ton of experience.

Morris has little, and Morris is our future as of now. So if morris = gardner, then why wouldnt you play morris at least for the future sake of things.

We are always "almost" a good catch lately or "almost" a first down. F this.

I see no reason not to play Morris the rest of the way.  We need to starting build for the future, and in terms of performance there isn't much difference anyway.

Morris is a turnover machine out there. The game looks like it's moving too fast for him. He looks nervous and rattles all the time.....I'm more surprised when he completes a pass downfield than if he throws a pick.

And wasn't his biggest knock in high school his poor accuracy? We'll it sure looks like that is still the case. Just a shock g lack of development by Morris and Gardner.

Being a 5th year Senior, Gardner's regression is nothing short of stunning.

What happened to peppers? Is he injured again?

What happened to peppers? Is he injured again?

What happened to peppers? Is he injured again?

What happened to peppers? Is he injured again?

Morris can overthrow it more than Gardner can overthrow it.  So not equal.

What happened to peppers? Is he injured again?

Give me Gardner at this point. DG will at least show flashes of talent and compentency. Morris is yet to show anything, abandons the pocket wayyyyyy too quickly and turns it over just as much as Gardner. Give me the 5th year senior over a sophomore who doesn't seem to be quite ready for the "momennt.

What happened to peppers? Is he injured again?

What happened to peppers? Is he injured again?

Look, I love Devin and hate the idea of him spending part of his last year riding the bench, but there's also a lot of other guys on the team too. If he's not getting it done, which I don't think you can credibly say he is, then it has to be next man up. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he's hurt on top of being mentally shaken, his throwing motion is just completely messed up.

Morris has not been very good however it isn't a really fair comparison. There's a big difference between coming in mid-way through a game and having a whole week of preparation and game planning around your strengths and weaknesses. There's a very good chance he's not as good or worse, but you can't just ride with Devin forever if he's consistently beating himself, you have to try your options. 

Utah's backup QB at least seemed somewhat competent

Sure he will make mistakes, but DG is gonna DG so that's not good either. Shane has better mechanics, a quicker release and a stronger arm to bail him out of a jam. He seems to get up field quicker than Gardner when he has to scramble.

DG and Shane are both new at learning Nuss's system and judging Shane from garbage time doesn't seem right. 

At this point, I feel bad for the receivers because no pass comes easy for them.

 

 

Morris has to be the starter from here on out.  And he can be much better than Gardner.  He throws with authority.  It would be nice if receivers would catch something for him though.  Morris is a sophomore who is going to have growing pains.  Gardner is what he is always going to be.  We have scored 0 touchdowns against major conference opponents with DG as quarterback, and you guys are seriously complaining about putting Morris in?  There is hope with Morris, and none with Devin.

Something broke in Devin Gardner at some point.   Both his capability and his decision making have regressed significantly.  He doesn't even throw the ball anymore he just sort of floats it like its monkey in the middle.  It is honestly the most bizarre thing I have seen in a player.   By every statistical metric after the final 6 games of 2012 there is no way anyone here could have told me he would regress this much.   I mean even after the Notre Dame game last year there is no way anyone could have said that.   Even after Ohio State last year no one could have said that.

It appears they have taken every one of his mechanics and radically changed them probably in an effort to make it proper.   When there are bullets out there he just regresses to what he knows and it becomes a mess.   Shane makes poor throws but he is decisive.  You can see that he will get much, much better over time.  I think, and I hate to say this, but Borges actually covered up Gardners fundamental flaw.  His decision making under duress is poor and the more he is put under that psychological stress over time the worse it becomes.  

Part of me hopes they just ride the year out with Gardner.  Nuss is on the sideline for a reason - to coach him during the game and walk him through the right and wrong reads.   He is trying to educate.   I firmly believe that Nuss is sending in plays and Garnder can change them and sometimes he does the right change, sometimes he does the wrong one and sometimes he has no clue.  When he play actions on the turn he doesn't step up in the pocket and gets slaughtered.  To me he is a kid who is trapped between being a great athlete and a constricted quarterback.   There is a part of me that wishes Nuss would just go into Hokes office and go "screw it Brady....we need to just go back to the full spread like I did at U of W".  

I knew that the offense would be bad to start the year but this bad is surprising.  A large part of it is Devin Funchess and the fact that that he is being criminally underutilized.  But honestly the offense is being built to run first and throw second and that may have to change until the O Line and RBs are consistent enough to deliver.