Deontay Anderson not coming to UM.
December 13th, 2017 at 10:05 PM ^
No. This is false. We may have had an idea that is was close but we don't know if Anderson gave a student copy of transcripts or whether he gave syllabi for the university to be able to know exactly what was or was not transfereable. And Michigan can't access Ole Miss transcripts until they are officially ordered.
December 13th, 2017 at 7:49 PM ^
He probably had the best chance at starting at S. But at least we have some young talented players that will do well. Glad that Shea got in and he will help our QB depth and has a chance to be the starter next season.
December 13th, 2017 at 8:02 PM ^
Remember, none of the three guys who visited are potential grad transfers, so they can only transfer to colleges which recognize classes they have taken, whereas incoming graduate students could be accepted without being restricted by their courses after already having earned a bachelor's.
It really is true that undergrad students have limited freedom for schools to transfer to, especially if out of state. For example, Ole Miss Sports Rec & Admin. students (typical major for student athletes) are required to take 24 credit hours of "general education" courses as well as 45 credit hours of SRA courses before receiving their diploma, but only 2 among any of those classes, or total 6 credit hours, are recognized by our School of Kinesiology. In fact, only 43 classes overall from Ole Miss transfer to UM that aren't Department credit, and only 18 of those don't require prerequisites which are the classes that sophomores have mostly taken. To put that in perspective, as sophomores entering the winter term, these players have taken 12-15 classes to this point.
Of course, it's hard to say without knowing exactly what showed up on Anderson's transcripts and all, but I expect the problem had more to do with the transferability of classes than his grades, and I'm almost certain that Anderson signed his letter of intent to Ole Miss without anticipating having to transfer down the line, so he had no way of knowing not to take classes which discouraged transferring out.
After doing this little research, it makes me think that Jefferson prob won't be able to transfer over either, and that both Anderson and Jefferson will likely find schools to transfer to somewhere else in the south. And, lastly, I think knowing this would bring silence to the rumor that there were 7 Ole Miss players looking to transfer here.
Honestly, I'm more surprised that Patterson made it through. Who knows, him being a life-long UM fan and all, maybe he planned ahead...
(btw, all of this can be found easily on the UM transfer equivalency page and the Ole Miss course list online.)
December 13th, 2017 at 8:39 PM ^
Wouldn't he still be allowed in but just as an academic freshman in your scenario? Maybe the school offers only two more years of paid tuition? I feel like there are a lot of ways to still get him in the school if it wasn't the grades holding him up.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:35 PM ^
From the UM Transfer Students page for requirements of a successful transfer:
"Has earned sophomore (30+ credits) or junior standing (55-60 credits) with transferable credit earned at a community college or another two- or four- year college or university."
The minimum amount of credit hours per semester for most universities is 12 credit hours, but UM requires that transfer students have about 15 credit hours per semester. Not all schools do that, for example MSU only suggests 28 credits for "competitive" transfer students, and schools like Western Michigan and Eastern Michigan require no certain amount of transferable credits at all. It's possible either Anderson didn't have enough credit hours for standing as a sophomore in his winter semester, or that he had literally zero transferable credit...or, that he dropped too many classes which he did poor in that now he has too few classes.
I also wouldn't be surprised if UM has a policy which requires a major to be chosen by a certain amount of credit hours. It is understandable since UM is such a competitive school that more students now enter with sophomore standing due to AP/IB credit from high school and have already selected a major, so extending enrollment to 6 years is probably undesirable and a poor indication of the student's success after school. For example, I know that Ross (School of Business) is outspoken about only admitting high school students and incoming sophomore transfers. Otherwise, I guess Harbaugh could encourage the Office of Admissions to bend the rules for any athlete, let alone for Anderson, but it's good to know that we aren't doing that.
Imo, the big hurdles for Anderson were that 1) He is not a graduate transfer 2) He was trying to transfer out-of-state 3) By default of being an underclassman, he was among the last to select his classes his past three semesters, so it would have been more difficult to choose the few UM classes to transfer after most classes fill up even if it was his intention.
December 13th, 2017 at 10:05 PM ^
We go through this topic every goddamn year at MGoBlog... eventually the topic of transfers comes up, and people are just gobsmacked at the fact that UM is very hard for undergrads to transfer into, regardless of athletic prowess.
December 14th, 2017 at 12:41 AM ^
the coaching staff too. Makes me wonder why they even bothered bringing him out here if it was such an easily foreseeable issue.
December 14th, 2017 at 1:31 AM ^
Good question. I doubt Michigan would have been given official access to transcripts by Ole Miss without a number of steps being followed first—Sam Webb referred several times to "red tape" causing delays—and they might have brought him here simply as a way of keeping the process moving in the event that academics were not a problem.
I'd bet that none of the players themselves are very familiar with the intricacies of which credits are going to transfer to Michigan, and they might have been assuming that there would be no problem.
It's too bad for the team, but it proves that the assertion occasionally made here that Michigan's academic standards aren't any higher than anybody else's is a pantload of bullshit.
December 13th, 2017 at 8:18 PM ^
This sucks. Having strict academic admissions transfer or otherwise will handicap the football programs success on the field.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:10 PM ^
December 13th, 2017 at 9:35 PM ^
December 13th, 2017 at 9:55 PM ^
we are still a university after all!
December 13th, 2017 at 11:36 PM ^
December 13th, 2017 at 10:06 PM ^
What college or university did you graduate from?
December 14th, 2017 at 7:59 AM ^
Yeah, I'm with those proud to come from a school that maintains lofty academic standards, and values academic integrity. As much as I would've loved to see Anderson on the field next year, part of me is glad it appears we aren't just accepting the nonsense, so-called academics from Mississippi.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:48 PM ^
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December 13th, 2017 at 9:53 PM ^
Hey, it's not easy to transfer into Michigan. One of the things we take pride in is the academics.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:56 PM ^
whether or not Ole MIss players would be able to get their credits transferred, and people thought that was a silly thing to bring up.
December 13th, 2017 at 10:24 PM ^
December 14th, 2017 at 1:31 AM ^
I thought Anderson would have been a bigger upgrade at safety than Patterson at QB. Peters is very talented and is at the point where players make the most improvement.
Our starting safeties don't have the athletic upside of Anderson, who could have been great in Don Brown's defense. Backups are unproven.
At Stanford, admissions jerked Harbaugh around. RG III's early enrollment was denied as Stanford admissions did things by the book and was not flexible. He then committed somewhere else. Wonder if UM admissions was also not flexible in some criteria here.
December 14th, 2017 at 2:44 AM ^
I was gonna be upset and sad about this until I saw the reason.
Hey, if you can't be here academically too, you can't be here.
We play school in addition to football at MICHIGAN.
December 14th, 2017 at 4:39 PM ^
Did you really want this kid on the field against PSU's next stud RB?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-km8oFX1CE
Patterson should be a great addition to your QB roster, Jefferson might move up from #4 on the WR depth chart, but you dodged a bullet with Anderson.
December 14th, 2017 at 6:21 PM ^
Fournette did that to a lot of people. Dude was a friggin monster