Nothing wrong with trade school. Plumbers make mad cash. If you don't think so, try calling one on the weekend, $130/hr.
I'm on your side I am a Firefighter/Paramedic. I have the upmost respect for plumbers, electricians ect. saying it's obvious the people who didn't go to Michigan sounds cocky. That's not what i'd expect from someone so prestige as a michigan alum.
utmost
March 29th, 2009 at 11:40 AM ^
just utmost?
March 29th, 2009 at 11:54 AM ^
...it's "baby steps."
March 29th, 2009 at 12:22 PM ^
'nuf said.
Michigan alums vs. Macomb Community College alums vs. high school drop outs, I've got 50 on the Michigan alums being smarter.
March 29th, 2009 at 12:23 PM ^
I don't think he'd make that statement if he didn't attend!!
And OBVS, you didn't go to Michigan, because you made a grammatical error, and Michigan grads never (ever) make those mistakes!!
March 29th, 2009 at 12:44 PM ^
i wasn't talking about you, but the OP and RRerabegins2009 or whatever his name is and anyone else who writes huge run-on sentences.
kudos to you though, i couldn't tell you were a welder.
Who's a welder?
Is it the ones who don't capitalize properly?
(Sorry, I just couldn't resist.)
I think Denard won't beat Tate. Tate is just too polished of a passer and is just about as fast as Denard. Denard is a great kid but I think his future is at CB.
Tate is not about as fast as Denard.
I never said Tate was. I'm just saying that people don't give Tate his props. He runs a 4.55 on Rivals and many people have him running faster. I try not to use Rivals on 40 times because they are pretty far off on a lot of guys. However, after looking at Tates highlights I can say that he def has more than enough speed. He is pretty elusive and I wouldn't be shocked if he runs a 4.4. Now Denard is prolly faster but not by much. Denard didn't look as elusive in his highlight tape or as good as a passer. But I honestly know that both run a 4.4 or a 4.5. So one really isn't much faster then the other.
Tate Forcier does not run a 4.4. You don't believe what Rivals lists...so you lower his speed by .15 seconds?
Denard Robinson just ran a 10.44 in the one hundred meters. I'm not saying Tate Forcier is slow, but Denard Robinson has blazing speed.
You didn't help your case with this post.
You certainly didn't help your case either. Okay, let's go by Rivals. Tate runs a 4.55 and Denard runs a 4.49. Now you really think Denard is so much faster? If Denard is really so fast then why did Tate make Denard's highlight runs look like shit? I could care less what Denard runs in the 100 meter. That has nothing to do with the 40 yard dash. NOTHING! Like I said, I'm sure Denard may be faster in shorts and on a track, but Tate has more football speed. Period. Look at the highlight films. Lastly, why would you go off of Rivals?
Get over it. Denard is a conerback with a decent arm. Denard will make an awesome conerback! But quaterback is taken by Tate unless he gets hurt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCENpiGgsN8
Im no football expert but I think Tate is hella fast. Anyone disagree? And if anyone thinks that Tate is too small, I'm sorry to say but Denard is even smaller. Funny how everyone said McGuffie was too small. But nobody mentions that Vincent Smith is too small. Can't wait to see McGuffie own shit at Rice!!
I disagree. It's pretty obvious from his runs that he has little breakaway speed. He has good acceleration, but he's not a burner by any stretch of the imagination.
He got into the Endzone didn't he? Not a burner? Looks hella fast for a QB. Find some of Denard's runs. He doesn't look faster then Tate.
Your logic is flawless.
How so? Please explain. I'm just trying to have a educated debate.
You're a moran. :(
A few replies above, you stated that Tate was "about as fast" as Denard. The reply back to you was that, no, he is not. You then reply back saying that you never said he was.
Your logic= flawless
Okay, lets make this simple for you. ABOUT AS FAST means just that. Tate is ABOUT as fast as Denard. Does not mean he is FASTER. God you are the fucking moran. Your life= Pointless
"football speed" fit in? Sounds like something Brent Musburger would come up with.
Whoops, don't answer that, you said you had nothing more to say.
I understand what you mean by "about", ok? You said he was about as fast, and then said you didn't. It's simple.
Re-read what you wrote.
Edit: Also, I apologize for calling you a moran, it's childish.
Dude. He said that I said Tate was as fast as Denard. I never said he was As fast. I said ABOUT as fast.
Really? What's this mean, then:
"Find some of Denard's runs. He doesn't look faster then Tate."
This discussion is over. Denard ran second fastest 100 meters this year. As soon as Tate runs anywhere near a 10.44 100 you can bring this back up. Until then Mcfarlin shut up your logic = flawless.
to have some kind of education first?
So, apparently everyone missed the part where this dude actually said "Denard doesn't look faster than Tate."
Uh, yeah, he does. It's pretty obvious in his highlight videos that once he hits the secondary, he's gone. I don't think I saw a single highlight where Tate actually outruns a defensive back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCENpiGgsN8
0:15 mark, and 1:00 mark
Sure, he's not the fastest kid. But his films suggest that he is quick enough to make it to the secondary. If Tate is able to run with some consistency into the secondary, I'll take that all day long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXKqt6njLhI&feature=related
He outruns defensive backs there...
Hmm, did Tate take it to the house like 3 times in that video? Wow. He isn't very fast. Sarcasm.
Nobody said Tate isn't fast. Everyone is saying Denard is faster, because he is. You're like a child to not understand this.
For the record, being a successful running QB has a lot more to do with having good vision and instincts than speed, which is apparent on a lot of Tate's runs. Yes, he's fast, but he's not even significantly faster than many of the high school players on the same field as him.
speed is all relative. game speed is not neccessarily the same as speed in t-shirt and shorts running a timed 40. i'll take the slower 40 guy as long as he plays faster and makes better throws come game time.
To be honest with you. I think Tate my be "game faster" then Denard. Compare the twos highlight tapes. However I don't know who played better opponets in HS.
Denard played better opponents in high school and it's not even close.
Something to keep in mind when you think about completion percentage too...
K. Then how come Tate is rated as the most accurate QB in the country? You think they just go off complete percentage? Nope! It's called Combines. Scouts over and over said that Tate was the most accurate QB. He can do it all. I don't care, anyone that completes 77 percent of their passes has earned my respect. You think Denard played better opponents? San Diego isn't a good area for football? I would of never guessed... I didn't see Denard on ANY of the rivals or scout rankings. He's an ATH with a decent arm. Nothing more!
San Diego isn't a good area for football?
No.
Wow. That's all I got to say.
Thank God.
were more frequent.
I never said "Tate's accuracy is overrated because his opponents sucked". What I did say was meant to convey the idea that "Tate killed Denard in completion percentage, and is definitely a more accurate passer, but based on the level of competition each player faced, the gap is probably not as wide as the stats would indicate". Is that clear enough for you?
And while I might be wrong on this, I believe Denard played at the highest level of high school football in Florida, while Tate's league was third tier or so in California. Florida > California. 1st tier > 3rd tier. End of story.
Wow. You are really something special. Denard wasn't even ranked in the top 10 for Rivals or Scout for the FASTEST QB. Put stats aside. Let's look at pure skills. Rivals and Scout have a top ten for most Accurate, Strongest Arm, and fastest and Denard was in zero of them. The fact that you are saying Denard is even close to Tate is amusing. Please stop. I can't take it!!! LMFAO!!
Are you high? Please show me where I was talking about speed.
My argument was about the level of competition they faced in high school (which you obviously know nothing about) and now you are turning it into some other twisted argument that I don't fully comprehend. Nice work dude.
Just face is son. You are a lil' bitch.http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/AMP-Breaking-Down-the…
If you're going to argue by calling people bitches, then take your garbage to Mlive where that crap is accepted.
Over/under on how long until Brian shows up and starts throwing banhammers?
Seeing as it would possibly decrease his income, I vote never.
Brian wouldn't ban someone?