Defensive Coordinator?

Submitted by nowayguy on January 12th, 2011 at 9:30 AM

I haven't heard any rumblings about who Michigan is looking at but I'm wondering who you'll want to see get hired for DC. 

 

Randy Shannon seems like the obvious choice at this time after he was not chosen for the DC position at Texas. His resume is absolutely incredible as his time at DC consisted of top ten defenses every year outside of 2004 (the defense finished 28th that year) and he has coached some top notch defensive players now in the NFL. The only real question is whether or not he can coach a group like Michigan. We know he can handle high level talent but it remains to be seen how he deals with a shortage of great players.  

So let's hear your choices and please don't say Scott Shafer, it's not happening. 

Comments

jmblue

January 12th, 2011 at 5:35 PM ^

Hoke was a DL coach, not a coordinator.

At this point, I don't think that matters.  He's been the boss of the DC for eight years now.  Defense is clearly his side of the ball, and I imagine he'll have a lot of input in the defensive gameplans. 

expatriate

January 12th, 2011 at 10:29 AM ^

But I don't think Randy Shannon lays awake at night dreaming about coaching at Michigan, he didn't go to Michigan and he wasn't a coach at Michigan.  I am pretty sure that disqualifies him.  I mean, if he at least slept in Michigan pajamas or named his first born son Bo Lloyd Gary Shannon then maybe we could talk.

I think without those qualifications it must mean he blows as a defensive coordinator.

/s

Captain Scumbag

January 12th, 2011 at 9:37 AM ^

Nepotism sounds bad, but Jon Hoke (current Chicago Bears DB coach) actually has a pretty solid resume:

1982 Dayton (DB)
1983 NC State (DB)
1983-1986 Bowling Green (DB)
1987-1988 SDSU (DB)
1989-1993 Kent State (DB/DC)
1994-1998 Missouri (DB)
1999-2001 Florida (DB/DC)
2002-2008 Houston Texans (DB)
2009-2010 Chicago Bears (DB)

modaddy21

January 12th, 2011 at 9:41 AM ^

"I don't think people can really say much about him. He has been here two years and last year Lovie "took over" the defense and this year Rod Marinelli took control so who knows what Hoke has really done in decision making.  Although since he came, there was a bunch of players shifting around position wise in the secondary in the off-season, Bowman, Graham to safety then back to corner. Manning from nickle-back to strong safety and Tillman from one side to the other at cb.  That and he really didn't develop anyone to be solid. Bowman was all hype then had a bunch of INTs but tons of blown plays and is benched. He was noted as not thinking Graham was quick enough to play cornerback and put him in the doghouse.  Does he get credit for DJ Moore stepping up at all? I don't know because before Lovie was all into coaching the nickle position but I'm not sure if it was the case this year. Hoke is just a person there really."


"Hoke is kind of a long forgotten coach amongst our staff. Him and whoever the heck coaches our TE position simply never come up, ever. Good or bad? You decided, but pretty much no one will really be able to tell you anything about Hoke. Our secondary for the most part blows and has needed to be hidden by our pass rush. Harris has really given us a boost but he's a long time vet who's just come back to the team this year so I don't know how much credit you give Hoke for that. DJ Moore is another player of note, but like Clyde said, up until this past year it's been well known that Lovie personally coaches our nickle position (there's no reason to believe he doesn't still). Manning has come on this season at Strong Safety but then again he's been a pet project of Lovie's since the day he got here so who knows how much instruction he receives from Hoke vs Lovie.

All in all he's the last coach I'd care about leaving the Bears staff. Then again Perry Fewell had the same gig as Lovie Smith's secondary coach back when he was with the Rams in 03 and then came to join the Bears in 05 and now he's the hot name for head coaching gigs across the NFL so take that for what it's worth."

KBLOW

January 12th, 2011 at 9:54 AM ^

If DB let's him bring in a little known pro-position coach as the DC that would be bad enough. If it's his brother then DB has really sold the fans a bunch of bullshit about doing everything possible to get this program back on its feet.  Plus, It's almost been 10 years since his brother was involved in college football. That's not a good sign.  Also, the whole nepotism/crony thing smells way too much like what the perception of the end of the Carr years was like.  

So far Hoke's OC is pretty underwhelming. (Look at the arc of his production at Auburn, minus the first few years with great talent he came into, he was average at best) If the DC is as equally blah then the next few years are gonna blow.

jp24elk

January 12th, 2011 at 9:54 AM ^

Well, I'll be glad when all this is settled too... 

 

As for Jon Hoke, I sure hope his time with the Houston Texans isn't indicative of his ability to put a solid product on the field.  I bleed maize and blue and live in Houston, and sure we we didn't have the best players in the league, but our secondary has always been torched.

For our sake I hope that was because Dunta Robinson was the only real talent he had back there during his tenure.  But, I believe a good coach can use less-than-stellar talent and set up team schemes that will be successful.  Hell, the Patriots do what they do with a cast of unknowns.

The coaches and administration know how to handle these situations more than we all do--we are fans sitting on a blog giving our $0.02.  If they feel like his brother is the right choice, then give him a shot.  As for me, I would like the Randy Shannon hire.  It's doubtful to lure the Ravens DC here.

chitown.victor

January 12th, 2011 at 10:07 AM ^

...the same thing.  He had some fairly decent defenses at Florida and Spurrier offered him the DC position at South Carolina when he took over there a few years back.  One thing with this is that he is currently coaching defensive backs for the Bears and their season doesn't look to be ending for at least a couple of weeks.  I have seen a lot of Bears football over the past two years, and I think they are a pretty good group and IMO they are pretty well coached.  They are very good at tackling and creating turnovers.  I am thinking Brady would want to have a DC in place ASAP before then. 

seegoblu

January 12th, 2011 at 9:37 AM ^

Don't the choices depend on the budget? If DB has authorized $1mm for a Def Coordinator, then the choices could include some very sexy names that wouldn't consider the job if we continue to underpay...Bud Foster? Venables? This is how UT operates, no?

scparksDPT

January 12th, 2011 at 9:45 AM ^

Are we still assuming coaches want to come here? I hope we get a great DC and a great name but we were all hoping for that with the HC. I just want someone to do the job well. I don't care who it is.

MichiganStudent

January 12th, 2011 at 9:56 AM ^

From who? Us or "sources"? Because if its the latter than I will start to get lightly and cautiously excited/hopeful. 

 

Edit: The other things about Trgovac is that he is the D-Line coach, so is Hoke. Not sure how they would deal with that. Does either have expertise in other areas? 

Moofis Footbone

January 12th, 2011 at 10:23 AM ^

From all I've read Hoke is a coach.  Loves coaching.  So, it makes sense for him to be an overseer of all things but coaches love getting in there and teaching.  I think he will be a manager but will get his hands dirty with a positional group.  Just my opinion.

West Texas Blue

January 12th, 2011 at 9:56 AM ^

Well if we're neck deep in nepotism, why don't we make Lloyd Carr's son the QB coach? I'm sure Tom Brady's son can be the water boy. Maybe Bo's son Glenn can be WR coach; why stop there?

Jon Hoke's defenses at Florida were the worst in Spurrier's tenure at the Swamp. Jon may be a good position coach but I want a truly proven DC - Shannon, Mattison, or Trgovac. But Michigan is cheap, so it's most likely gonna be Jon Hoke.