CC: Gary Patterson
October 6th, 2014 at 10:00 AM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 6:45 PM ^
Then you would need a complete overhaul of the roster again. Starting in 2015 we wont have any running quarterbacks.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:46 PM ^
I couldn't agree with you more. I know it would never happen but in a fictional world where I could have anyone, he would be my #2 behind Harbaugh and it would be a close call between the two of them.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:41 PM ^
Although I think Gary Patterson would be a great hire for Michigan, I think there is little to no chance of him leaving TCU to come to Michigan.
For what its worth, in 2007, prior to Michigan hiring RR, I spoke with the TCU guys I know (some of whom are very well connected) saying that I felt like Michigan should take a serious run at Patterson. They responded with, "If he tried to leave Ft. Worth, his wife would divorce him." From what they explained his wife is very involved/entrenchd in the Ft. Worth social scene and they live an idealistic life there.
Take it for what its worth, but I don't see it happening.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:45 PM ^
I dont think he will come, but he is the definition of an adaptive coach. His offense from the Andy Dalton BCS busting days to today's Big 12 days have changed drastically. In a good way of course.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:48 PM ^
It is wishful thinking to believe that ANY proven head coach, who is currently comfortable and set in his situation would consider coming to Michigan to coach this mess of a program.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:57 PM ^
It would be an interesting choice, but he's a bit older (54) and while he's made a winner down at TCU, he doesn't have any real connection to the area or school. I also think he tends to attract decent talent because of his location, and trying to get those same kids to come north would be tough.
I'm sure UM will take a run at him, but it feels like a reach.
October 5th, 2014 at 6:59 PM ^
Why on earth would any coach want to do that? A good coach crams a square peg in a round hole and never gives up!
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October 5th, 2014 at 7:16 PM ^
He has been at TCU since 1998. I would be for him if you could pry him out of there.
He and Whittingham at Utah are almost identical candidates in that they took non Big 5 teams to the heights of the Mountain West (TCU/Utah) and then both coach's schools moved to a Big 5 conference and suffered the first 2 years in the new conference as they had to play a better type of athlete week in and week out. Now in year 3 both coaches seem to be getting enough talent to begin really competing in their respective conferences.
He makes $3M+ and is still only 54 years old. (I am a bit surprised at you guys thinking that is old for a HC) I liked the offense they were running against Oklahoma, it was fun.
Much like Whittingham the question is can you pry him away - Tennessee came for Whittingham in 2010 and was rejected. With Patteron it is more of a Mike Gundy type question - are you going to pry him away from somewhere he has been a long time.
He wouldn't be sexy but Dantonio was not sexy when he got to MSU off a 18-17 record at Cincy. He is a proven commodity and would stabilize a program in trouble. Of course one major con is no Big 10 footprint/background - he would be a stranger to HS coaches in most of Ohio and PA.
I also dont know if he has any reason to leave to go to UM. He is in a power 5 conference in a hotbed of fertile recruiting with a program he built from the ground up. Despite what many claim here that this is a 1 year turnaround, this is a 3 year turnaround story.
Year | Team | Overall | Conference | Standing | Bowl/playoffs | Coaches# | AP° | ||
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TCU Horned Frogs (Western Athletic Conference) (2000) | |||||||||
2000 | TCU | 0–1[n 1] | [n 1] | [n 1] | L Mobile Alabama | 18 | 21 | ||
TCU Horned Frogs (Conference USA) (2001–2004) | |||||||||
2001 | TCU | 6–6 | 4–3 | T–5th | L Galleryfurniture.com | ||||
2002 | TCU | 10–2 | 6–2 | T–1st | W Liberty | 22 | 23 | ||
2003 | TCU | 11–2 | 7–1 | 2nd | L Fort Worth | 24 | 25 | ||
2004 | TCU | 5–6 | 3–5 | T–6th | |||||
TCU Horned Frogs (Mountain West Conference) (2005–2011) | |||||||||
2005 | TCU | 11–1 | 8–0 | 1st | W Houston | 9 | 11 | ||
2006 | TCU | 11–2 | 6–2 | 2nd | W Poinsettia | 21 | 22 | ||
2007 | TCU | 8–5 | 4–4 | 5th | W Texas | ||||
2008 | TCU | 11–2 | 7–1 | 2nd | W Poinsettia | 7 | 7 | ||
2009 | TCU | 12–1 | 8–0 | 1st | L Fiesta† | 6 | 6 | ||
2010 | TCU | 13–0 | 8–0 | 1st | W Rose† | 2 | 2 | ||
2011 | TCU | 11–2 | 7–0 | 1st | W Poinsettia | 13 | 14 | ||
TCU Horned Frogs (Big 12 Conference) (2012–present) | |||||||||
2012 | TCU | 7–6 | 4–5 | T–5th | L Buffalo Wild Wings | ||||
2013 | TCU | 4–8 | 2–7 | T–7th | |||||
2014 | TCU | 4–0 | 1–0 | ||||||
TCU: | 124–44 | 75–30 | |||||||
Total: | 124–44 |
October 5th, 2014 at 7:02 PM ^
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October 5th, 2014 at 7:06 PM ^
Separately, I think if he was serious about leaving TCU he would have been considered for Texas. I could be wrong but I don't remember him being a serious candidate.
October 5th, 2014 at 7:09 PM ^
Texas made the right choice with Strong. I'd prefer Strong to Peterson.
October 5th, 2014 at 8:17 PM ^
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October 5th, 2014 at 11:06 PM ^
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October 5th, 2014 at 7:19 PM ^
One name who hasn't been mentioned at all is Mark Richt.
His teams haven't been bad at all, but in the last 5 years he's only won 10 games or more twice. The fans seem to be losing patience with him and I think he's out if they don't win 10 games this year.
October 5th, 2014 at 7:39 PM ^
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October 5th, 2014 at 7:30 PM ^
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October 5th, 2014 at 7:40 PM ^
Nick Saban
Jim harbaugh
John harbaugh
Les miles
Bob stoops
Mark richt
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October 5th, 2014 at 7:55 PM ^
the rest are unrealistic candidates.
October 5th, 2014 at 8:04 PM ^
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October 5th, 2014 at 8:09 PM ^
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October 5th, 2014 at 8:55 PM ^
Let's just hope for Fielding Yost to come back while we're at it.
October 6th, 2014 at 4:26 AM ^
If he loses a few more games, I think LSU won't throw a fuss trying to keep him. Plus, Miles knows that the B1G is much easier to win then the SEC. I think Miles is licking his chops over the Michigan job. If we keep Brandon there is no way in hell that Miles is coming to Michigan.
October 5th, 2014 at 8:54 PM ^
is a lateral move at best. Doesn't make sense for him leave a good thing going there to come to this $hit $how
October 5th, 2014 at 9:40 PM ^
Harbaugh or Miles is a disappointment for me.
October 5th, 2014 at 11:04 PM ^
October 6th, 2014 at 12:38 AM ^
The three seasons before Nick Saban got to Alabama they went.
4-9, 6-6, 6-7. While USC, Texas, Miami, and Ohio State absolutely dominated that time. They were 3-8 as early as 2000, to go along with NCAA sanctions. Nick Saban's first season? 7-6 finishing 1-4. FSU wasn't exactly world beaters after 2000, and before last year. USC before Pete, had 6 .500 or worse seasons. My point is big destinations will continue to be big destinations as long as they have TV deals, big stadiums, boosters, and budgets. None of the 8 college football blue bloods hasn't fallen off in the past two decades, and they've all rebounded. Michigan can afford any coaching staff the world has to offer, can afford to upgrade their facilities to rival anyone not named Oregon, and the ability to have their game shown to more people than anyone else. When Michigan is good, they're luckily one of the only teams besides Ohio, ND, Texas, Oregon USC and the entire SEC with the ability to be overrated early, and often. Do not underestimate your college because of a slight dip that hasn't reached nearly as bad as the dips of other blue bloods. It isn't like our recruiting dipped to match our records, we've literally are one of the most well recruited, well talented teams. And the right coach can do what Saban, Meyer, Miles and such have done and do a quick two year turn around.
October 6th, 2014 at 4:29 AM ^
Brandon and Hoke are friends and Brandon wanted to bring a Michigan Man and former assistant coach to Michigan. There were many better choices but Brandon got his man Hoke.
October 6th, 2014 at 4:57 AM ^
The more I look at Patterson the more I am intrigued. Guy brings a pretty sick defense with him every year (with a few exceptions). His offenses struggle some years but the years the offense can keep up they have excellent record. His 2 years have been a struggle in the Big 12 as they adjust to better athletes BUT this year could be a big year in much the way Mullen might be having a big year. He faces a bevy of high powered offenses in the coming weeks - Baylor, OK State, Texas Tech, West Virginia - and then a very solid defensive team in Kansas State. If he gets through that gauntlet 4-1 he really will have shown a big turnaround and ability to compete in the Big 12. Even 3-2 would be impressive.
While the W-L has struggled in the 2 years in the Big 12 his defense has been quite good, especially when adjusting for a much more pass happy and high scoring conference. #20 in total defense in the Big 12 would be akin to #8 in the Big 10.
It sounds like we would be very difficult to pull out of TCU but pending how he does in the month of October he could be one to really target. I don't care what conference you are in - being #1 in total defense multiple years is impressive. In Year 2000 he wasnt the head coach but was DC - so that is his defense.
W/L | Tot Off | Tot Def | |
2000 | 9-3 | 23 | 1 |
2001 | 6-6 | 90 | 24 |
2002 | 10-2 | 66 | 1 |
2003 | 11-2 | 26 | 38 |
2004 | 5-6 | 18 | 99 |
2005 | 11-1 | 41 | 25 |
2006 | 11-2 | 17 | 2 |
2007 | 8-5 | 64 | 15 |
2008 | 11-2 | 24 | 1 |
2009 | 12-1 | 7 | 1 |
2010 | 13-0 | 12 | 1 |
2011 | 11-2 | 28 | 32 |
2012 | 7-6 | 72 | 16 |
2013 | 4-8 | 104 | 24 |