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Hoops Talk: Off-Ball Problems Comment Count

Matt EM December 5th, 2023 at 10:00 AM

Michigan is 2-3 versus high-major opponents this season after a heartbreaking loss to a depleted Oregon team on the road. Following the loss to Texas Tech, the Wolverines had more than a week off to work out the kinks defensively and I was very curious to see how things looked on that end of the court. In short, things did not look good. 

That much is fairly obvious to even the most casual Michigan hoops fan, but the question is why? Let's take a look under the hood to better understand the root issues the team is facing. 

 

Sleepwalking Bigs

It certainly wasn't the only issue, but the bigs falling asleep defensively was definitely among the more prominent problems. Early in the game and Tarris Reed is matched up one-one-one against Jermaine Couisnard in a late-clock scenario. Reed is generally a very good perimeter defender when switched against guards. Terrance Williams is also in help position at the nail area. 

Nkamhoua completely leaves Kwame Evans to camp out in the paint..........before Couisnard even takes a dribble. Tarris easily beats Couisnard to the spot and forces a kickout. But Kwame Evans has relocated and is now a viable release valve for Couisnard as Olivier is nowhere to be found. Easy triple for Evans. 

This was a recurring issue for for Nkamhoua. A few minutes later TWill/Olivier easily execute a switch as Jadrian Tracey gets the ball on the left wing. Williams is in perfect position and shading him baseline with Tschetter in help position on the weakside. Again, Nkamhoua completely vacates Couisnard on the wing to provide unnecessary help and gives Oregon a viable release valve.

Couisnard isn't able to connect, but the process is bad. 

[AFTER THE JUMP some issues with miscommunication, rebounding and the small guards]

Fast forward to the second half and Olivier commits the same sin. Nkamhoua/Twill once again execute a seamless switch. Terrance is now matched up against a 5ppg scorer in Mahamadou Diawara. There is simply no need to help. But Olivier drops down to the nail once Diawara catches the ball.

Kario Oquendo immediately notices this and promptly exploits it by setting a pin-in screen on Nkamhoua. Cousinard misses again, but this simply shouldn't be happening with such frequency given the specific context in each of the aforementioned possessions. 

While Olivier was the major culprit, he wasn't alone in falling asleep and/or overhelping. The Wolverines are running a press in the clip below which turns into man-to-man once Oregon gets the ball over half-court. Take a close look at Tarris Reed. He identifies Nkamhoua close-out to the corner and immediately drops back to the paint. Good decision to replace Michigan's other big near the paint.

But what he does after that is not a very good decision. He gets a hand on Couisnard and clearly identifies that player as his assignment. The ball swings to Keeshawn Barthelemy on the left wing and Reed gets caught ballwatching for a few moments. Couisnard relocates and provides a release valve for Barthelemy. Easy triple against a late closeout and you can see the frustration from the Michigan coaching staff. 

 

Miscommunication

The Wolverines also struggled with communication and/or assignment integrity at times. This possession is likely the most egregious. The Michigan defense is able to set up after a made basket on a nifty runner from Dug. Take a close look at the :08 mark of the clip. Both Nkamhoua and Reed are pointing at the same man..........then proceed to have a staring contest with one another for a nanosecond as Tracey has a free walk to the rim.

You can see assistant coach Saddi Washington is furious and you can't blame him. Tracey doesn't score but this is completely unacceptable after a made basket. 

 

Rebounding

Michigan has not been a particularly good defensive rebounding team this season (#243 in Dreb rate per Torvik) despite playing two-big lineups most of the time. Hitting the glass is very much a team effort, but Will Tschetter has really struggled in this facet. Tschetter's defensive rebounding rate currently sits at 6.3, which is nearly unfathomable given his position. 

Here, Will does a good job of showing a step below screen level + recovering to Evans on the roll. But Oregon is intent on getting Kwame the ball and gives him the post-entry pass. Tschetter does well by walling up + bumping Evan off his spot to force a somewhat off-balance jumphook. But look at what happens after the initial shot is released.  

Will watches TV as Kwame gives multiple efforts to get the offensive rebound and ultimately convert a layup. A livid Juwan Howard rises from the bench the precise moment he identifies the lack of effort (definitely prior to the layup conversion) from Tschetter. 

This wasn't a one-time deal for Will either. Michigan up 1 with the game hanging in the balance with under a minute left in regulation. Again, Tschetter does a really good job initially, switching to Tracey after the DHO and beating him to the spot. Will doesn't bump on the shot-fake, then bumps Tracey off his spot a bit to force Tracey to drift left on the layup attempt.

But after that? Same story. Tschetter watching TV as Tracey gives multiple efforts to come up with the offensive rebound and a second-chance opportunity. Oregon isn't able to cash-in, but there's simply no way the staff can tolerate the lack of effort here, particularly when Will has the size advantage. 

 

Lineups

As an avid NBA fan, I cringe nearly every time I notice a coach using a three-guard lineup, as it generally spells disaster on the defensive end. I quickly adjusted my brain to college-mode, as this is indeed viable at the CBB level since bigs are typically bad.

But the 3-guard lineup for Michigan was in fact disaster this game. The Dug McDaniel/Nimari Burnett/Jaelin Llewellyn trio was -8...............in 3.5 minutes during the first half. 

The possession below captures the fundamental issue, the sheer lack of size. 

The first 25 seconds were solid. Oregon is now in a late-clock scenario that should play into Michigan's favor. But Jackson Shelstad easily blows by an undersized McDaniel...........with Llewellyn as the strongside low-man on the rotation. Shelstad bails the Wolverines out by settling for a pull-up rather than attacking Llewellyn, but the rebound comes off long.

Near the rim on the right side, Michigan has Llewellyn/McDaniel/Burnett. All three stare at the action as Rigsby comes in for the tip-in before Oquendo cleans it up. 

Llewellyn deserves some leeway, as this was his first game back from a significant injury. But this possession was a real headscratcher. First Shelstad blows-by him with ease from the left wing, but he decides to kick-out to the corner rather than attack. That's completely understandable given the rust + injury. But after that is when the real fireworks begin.

Jaelin gets completely lost once Shelstad dives............literally does a complete 180 at the :07 mark. Llewellyn's blunder forces a switch and Oregon identifies it. Shelstad re-directs and kicks it to the corner for the entry pass with a better angle. From there it's pure bully-ball for Couisnard with a mouse in the house.

You can't be undersized and poor with off-ball rotations. There's simply no margin for error. 

 

 

 

Comments

wetnoodle

December 5th, 2023 at 12:53 PM ^

I don't watch it as much as used to but when I do there is a hell of alot more of ole defense going on compared to years ago

No one can watch the NBA now and say that there is great defense anymore..are there some good defensive players, yes of course, but the overall defense has gone way down

 

S FL Wolverine

December 5th, 2023 at 11:58 AM ^

Yeah. Supposed to be. You know, I'm not one of those "fire the coach" knee jerk people, but when the team doesn't even succeed at the head coach's supposed strength, you have to wonder what the next step is.  I had to go back and look at the last four years to give me some perspective because I'd forgotten most of this but:

20-21 Big Ten regular season champs; Elite Eight in NCAA 

21-22 Mediocre regular season with Sweet Sixteen NCAA run that sort of salvaged it.

22-23 18-16 overall, 11-9 Big Ten, lost in 2nd round of NIT

23-24 4-4 with best win over SJU

I know CBB has changed dramatically during that stretch. NIL and transfers have changed roster management completely. But Michigan appears to be stuck in a medicore trajectory. I'm not entirely sure changing coaches would net us much unless we got a homerun hire. And I just don't see that happening.  I mean, we could. We have the money. But Michigan has never seemed as committed to basketball as football. So - throws up hands - I dunno man. I just know the winter and spring are way more enjoyable when Michigan basketball is good. 

 

 

 

 

mgogobermouch

December 5th, 2023 at 1:26 PM ^

Wait -- I agree that Juwan Howard should be good at teaching bigs to play defensive, and the bigs aren't playing great defense.

But it's also a fact that Juwan Howard has been hospitalized and unable to coach (until quite recently). 

So if you kind of expect that someone's a good defensive coach, and then when he suddenly isn't there to coach, the defense gets really unexpectedly bad, that's actually evidence that he might be even better than you thought.

I mean, I have a lot of criticisms of Howard, but the team's recent defensive failures are an argument in his favor, not against him. 

Mannix

December 5th, 2023 at 5:25 PM ^

The philosophy of the program comes from Juwan, thus his assistants would be sharing the same philosophy. They would be able to teach the defensive philosophy in Juwan's absence. But since there really isn't one in place, then it becomes more "stay in front of your man with the ball" with no apparent help or steering thought, such as "I know my help is baseline so I will force the ball that way".

Weak man teams will play zone, but if you don't have man concepts down, the zone becomes pretty easy to beat. 

 

TCW

December 5th, 2023 at 2:22 PM ^

Juwan has recruited transfers that would have been eligible anywhere else in the country and would have made us a much better team, but they never materialized because our admissions process is a black hole.  Open question whether Juwan should have anticipated those issues, but we were bringing guys who were in good standing at major universities.  It's not like he's targeting Demar Dorsey types. 

JamesBondHerpesMeds

December 5th, 2023 at 10:34 AM ^

2014: thank god we're a basketball school

2023: thank god we're a football school

(herpes' note: michigan is the only school that has had a #1 ranking in both MBB and FB in the past decade. so, i kinda kid but only kinda)

ShadowStorm33

December 5th, 2023 at 11:31 AM ^

(herpes' note: michigan is the only school who has had a #1 ranking in both MBB and FB in the past decade. so, i kinda kid but only kinda)

In some ways this actually makes it harder. In 2020-21 he was looking like a slum dunk hire, firing on all cylinders, recruiting lights out, etc. And then it's been seemingly all downhill from there...

mgogobermouch

December 5th, 2023 at 1:42 PM ^

only school who has had a #1 ranking in both MBB and FB in the past decade

That struck me as a really cool fact, and one that we should probably mention more often.  And I tried to check if it was true.  And then after an embarrassingly long time googling random schools, I remembered that last year's AP #1 going into March Madness (Alabama) might have something to say about this.

But "Michigan and Alabama are the only two schools with a #1 ranking in both MBB and FB in the past decade" is still a pretty cool statement.  (Though, of course, I didn't really check this.)

Shop Smart Sho…

December 5th, 2023 at 11:08 AM ^

Will is the second coming of Adrien Nunez. A guy that apparently has EVERYTHING a coach wants, aside from the baseline athletic ability to compete at the level being asked of him.

If Sanderson hasn't been able to get him there at this point, is it ever likely to happen?

UofM Die Hard …

December 5th, 2023 at 1:39 PM ^

My take on this team. I think the talent is there to be a mid of the road big ten team, and bubble tourney team. I like the additions, good team guys, good players, and aggressive in their play style. 

But again, similar to last couple years, the offensive/defensive collapses we see when games are in hand, and should be won, are just terrible. That's coaching, all coaching.   That lost to Oregon was absolutely awful and should have not of happened.  When the clock hit zero, I turned off my TV by aggressively pushing the off button and said "same fuckin coaching shit"   

My hunch is that for rest of the season, this team will be competitive in a lot of the games til the end, have a good chunk of them in hand if they play smart,  but wont close them out and our record will be very similar to last years

 

MGoLow

December 5th, 2023 at 2:29 PM ^

Thanks Matt. I think we all knew this would be a rebuilding year, to some extent. But the performance is so strange. I shared Brian's belief that the defense/effort would necessarily be better after subtracting Jett/Hunter. But while the effort appears better at first glance, your deep dives do a good job of showing it's not there in the vital times. Is coaching a part of this? I just don't understand how these guys, none of whom are superstars, can't give that extra bit of oomph.

Medic

December 5th, 2023 at 2:31 PM ^

Beilein really had the blueprint for repeatable, consistent success:

  • Recruit a couple of projects, long term development types with raw potential that will more than likely stay to be seniors.
  • Recruit a few kids who are probably gone after a few years. High end 4-star types but not lottery picks.
  • Avoid the one and done types or least don't sink a ton of energy into recruiting them.
  • Don't be afraid to replace your assistants. 

That took a while to cook, but it worked incredibly well over time. Would it still work in the NIL era? I think so and perhaps even better because roster management across revenue generating sports is going to become an absolute nightmare over the next few years without any regulation. 

Will Juwan do something like this? No. Things have been getting progressively worse and short of having a Harbaugh like epiphany, I don't see it changing.

mpbear14

December 5th, 2023 at 3:18 PM ^

In what universe did Juwan think it was a good idea to come into this season with the exact same staff? 

The defensive side of the ball has snowballed out of control. 

Jonesy

December 5th, 2023 at 5:18 PM ^

College basketball just sucks now. Every team is almost completely remade from the transfer portal each year. Zero continuity, zero program building. How much coaching can you do when most of your team is a one year rental? Why spend time developing young players when theyre going in the portal if theyre not already playing? Basketball, more than football, needs fixed. We need contracts and salaries and trades and not NIL and everyone a free agent every year.