ESPN reports 5 tOSU players will be suspended for 5 games in 2011
Sportscenter just reported it. Link should be up soon. TP, Boom, Posey, Mike Adams and Solomon Thomas . For thoses who don't know, it's over Tatgate.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:26 PM ^
to prove Terrelle Pryor is an idiot...hilarious
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 PM ^
i want to know who is going to monitor how pryor is going to come up with $3750.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 PM ^
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:29 PM ^
I generally agree in the thought that it's kind of fun for bad things to happen to OSU, but this comes off as complete bull shit as far as I'm concerned. This is completely messed up on two levels (that I've thought of so far).
1. These guys gets suspended for almost half of a season for selling their awards and jerseys? A, the University makes a crap load of money selling shirts that acknowledge those awards and even more on replicas of the jerseys that people only want to buy because the work those guys put in put value on certain numbers on the jersey. I agree that the players get lots of benefits out of being student-athletes, but how in any possible way does the punishment fit the crime? It's so disproportionate that it blows my mind. There's no competitive or recruiting advantage at all here. It's insane. Cam Newton's family can violate a written NCAA rule with a monetary value that is literally almost 100 times higher than the values in this case, and he gets no punishment. Unreal.
2. If you throw out every argument I had in point one and think the suspension is deserved, how does it make a lick of sense for them to be able to play in the bowl game? Why does LSU's starting running back with the academic violation have to sit out the bowl game? Why can't he just miss whatever Sun Belt foe LSU faces next year? The quoted logic in the link is nonsensical.
Seriously, I think the BCS schools should honestly consider just leaving the NCAA. They are voluntary members and stuff like this is so nonsensical that they should just save their money and do it themselves.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:33 PM ^
Because selling shit that people only want to buy because you're a famous college athlete is profiting off of one's athletic status and doesn't fit in with the idea of being an amateur?
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:13 PM ^
I think there's a distinction between profiting off of your amateur status and getting paid directly for your performance when posing as an amateur. They shouldn't have done it because it's pretty explicitly against the rules, but that doesn't mean I can't question the rule.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:18 PM ^
agrees with you . . . .
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:24 PM ^
and the line is basically impossible to draw. Under your reasoning, college athletes should totally be allowed to appear in tv commercials and other ads in exchange for money, which would make the whole "don't pay student athletes" thing hilariously easy to circumvent. Instead of offering Cam Newton's dad $180,000 in a duffel bag, they just could have offered Cam Newton $180,000 to appear in a commercial for a local car dealership.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:06 PM ^
You make a good point regarding the Newton situation. I can respect that.
I don't know, maybe I'm naive and simple minded to some extent, but every situation is different and there is an ultimate truth to it, whether or not it can really be determined. There is a difference between a booster walking up to a player and saying here's $3000 if you play for OSU and somebody going, "dude, I'll give you two grand for that ring!" It's just not the same and the intentions are different. Can it really be regulated any differently? Probably not, but that doesn't mean the two scenarios are identical.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 PM ^
Its interesting you say that a 5-game suspension does not fit the crime because my initial reaction is that those kids should have to sit an entire season. Harsher penalties are the only way these kinds of things are going to stop. The competitor in Pryor, for example, will probably make him regret what he did but its not like he's not going to be part of the team during those 5 weeks. He'll be practicing, studying film, and generally making himself a better player in preparation for the NFL. In my opinion, a 5-game suspension is almost a soft landing.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:42 PM ^
i think that 5 games is pretty tough, but one of them should be the bowl game. Conveniently, the toughest game out of OSU's next six is the one that the players can participate in.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:05 PM ^
the Sugar Bowl is a big money game for ABC/ESPN.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:10 PM ^
Why wait?
Because OSU screwed up and didn't educate them=BS exuse.
Because it didn't give them a competitive advantage=It might have if they spent the money on something to make themselves better football players like supplements instead of tattoos.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:15 PM ^
I guess I just disagree. I look at what happened, and it just doesn't seem like a 40% of your season offense.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:30 PM ^
Clarett leads them to a national title only to get suspended the next season and eventually booted off campus.
Troy Smith wins the Heisman after being suspended for taking money from a booster.
Does anyone else see a pattern here?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:54 PM ^
I see the pattern.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:30 PM ^
Why stick around for the senior year if you aren't going to play? We all know he isn't going to be utilizing his education from the University of Ohio State anyways.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 PM ^
Was AJ Green's suspension 4 or 5 games?
Edit: It was 4
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:31 PM ^
It's a Festivus miracle.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:39 PM ^
A holiday for the rest of us.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:41 PM ^
One grievenace I do not need to air tonight!
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:46 PM ^
I can't wait for the feets of strength with Rex Ryan.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 PM ^
LETS RUMBLE!
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 PM ^
Damn You. You beat me to it. +1 sir. Happy Festivus everyone. lol
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:33 PM ^
Pryor said, "See? I got way more for my ring than the other guys. It's like I've been saying; put me in an auction... Sotheby's, Ebay, ANY type of auction... and I'd dominate."
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:33 PM ^
I wonder if the NCAA is going to say that Tressel promoted an atmosphere of noncompliance with NCAA rules?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:59 PM ^
Preach it, brother!
or sister
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 PM ^
The 5 games won't matter - if these kids have a chance of going anywhere in the first four rounds of the draft (hint: they do), they will go pro.
Excellent Christmas gift a few days early. Love it.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 PM ^
Quick survey - If Denard offered to sell you his 2011 Big Ten Champion ring for $1000, would you buy it or set him straight?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:39 PM ^
Set him straight and then have a talk with the coach.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:37 PM ^
It could not happen to a nicer group of Suckeyes!!!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:42 PM ^
hahahaha
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:16 PM ^
This time of year. I think I detect a hint of nutmeg.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:42 PM ^
The reasoning by the NCAA as to why they should be able to play in the bowl is absurd. Does anyone remember the Green situation in Georgia to start the year. You didn't hear the NCAA saying "we did a bad job of informing him of the rules regarding selling awards and gifts, so he will be suspended for some future period of time."
The bottom line is they committed violations, so they should be punished immediately like Green. Consistent much?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 PM ^
Devier Posey is projected to be a 2nd round WR by ESPN. He is definitely a goner.
Herron rushed for 1,000+ yds last year. While he doesn't have eye-popping athletic abilities, 7 (+bowl game) additional games will not change his ratings. He is probably an early-entry as well.
Mike Adams has only started one year as a LT, but he was a highly rated recruit and possesses the athletic ability to be a star. I can see him declaring as well based on potential.
Solomon Thomas is a backup who has used his redshirt already. He is not considered an NFL candidate, but I can see him declaring just to see if he can get a free agent contract somewhere.
...and that leaves Terrell Pryor.
Pryor is not NFL ready and is a 3rd round pick at best, but, will the 7 additional games help improve his draft grade? In addition, the rust may affect his performance early on.
If I was Pryor's advisor, he is declaring for the draft with this incident looming.
Now, if NFL has a lockout...
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:33 PM ^
the same thing was said about Tim Tebow last year. I think TP is a late 1st rounder, just because of his potential.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:00 PM ^
whether you like him or not, didn't have attitude problems. Timmy boy seems as humble as Pryor seems arrogant. I think that's enough to explain 2 rounds difference between the two.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 PM ^
my favorite part of the espn release:
All of the players be eligible for the Jan. 4 Allstate Sugar Bowl, however.
was TP the copy editor for this story?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 PM ^
Justin Boren sold him some used candy wrapper foil as bulk scrap...
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 PM ^
I'm going over to Eleven Warriors w/ some popcorn.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 PM ^
or belief that the game is bigger than the players, he would suspend these bozos for at least the first half of the bowl game. I think he should hold them out completely, but then he is giving the game away.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:49 PM ^
Good point. And the fact that tOSU has announced they will appeal the ncaa's ruling shows what kind of accountability they are displaying. None. Have fun rebuilding on offense as well as D next year Tressel. Braxton Miller is good, but he'll still be a true frosh.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 PM ^
What are the chances that Pryor jumps to the pros early now that half his senior season is down the drain? If the NFL labor lockout wasn't looming, I'd say the chances of that would be 100.0% Things as they are, the odds are somewhere less.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:31 PM ^
I don't think the lockout - if it even happens - is going to be the major deterrent people make it out to be. It probably won't last that long, and it won't prevent players from signing endorsement deals - they just can't sign with a team until it's over.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:05 PM ^
I hope he stays. He will be such a distraction being he can't keep his mouth shut. I think OSU would be better off if he just left and let Braxton Miller take over and take his lumps without TP to "mentor" him. Should be fun to watch regardless though.
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:59 PM ^
If there's a lockout, can the owners bring in replacement players like when there's a strike? And if so, can they include rookies as replacements?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:54 PM ^
Why didn't Pryor just steal money? He should know that everyone steals from each other.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:01 PM ^
Boy, it sure is hard not to laugh at this kind of stuff. Karma is a b-tch, eh Pryor? If he would have just kept his mouth shut, played football, studied, and appeared to be a decent guy he could have avoided all of these kinds of comments. Open mouth, insert foot.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:05 PM ^
Mike Valenti just shouted, peed his pants, and fainted with this news.