Red Wing Frustrations
December 10th, 2017 at 2:53 AM ^
Uh... wow? Drink it off, or sleep it off, man.... Nice OT though. We could use a few more OT's... but that's not quite what we're looking for.
December 10th, 2017 at 2:53 AM ^
December 10th, 2017 at 3:34 AM ^
Exactly. Holland has been in the job too long. Hopefully he does what's best and steps away and Stevie Y gets offered a huge pile of money and comes back.
December 10th, 2017 at 2:57 AM ^
December 10th, 2017 at 9:47 AM ^
I liked Tootoo...he was a fun player to watch but we signed him to a four year deal and they barely played him during the only year they kept him....that was bad signing all around for Holland
December 10th, 2017 at 3:39 PM ^
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December 10th, 2017 at 8:17 PM ^
Yzerman is not coming to Detroit as a GM. Google it!
December 10th, 2017 at 5:01 AM ^
December 10th, 2017 at 8:32 AM ^
December 10th, 2017 at 5:12 AM ^
Holland is an absolute moron. The Florida Panthers fired Gerrard Gallant like dummies and Holland had a chance to get rid of Blashitt and hire a real coach. Of course Holland drops the ball yet again. Why would he do anything right.
I admire the Wings loyalty to their own but at some point someone has to wake up and realize he's in way over his head. Stop the bleeding and fire the GM and coach the start over. This is getting stupid.
December 10th, 2017 at 9:49 AM ^
I don't get the coach talk...you could have Bowman out their and we would still miss the playoffs. The coach adds minimal benefit to a shitty hockey team and only means a damn when you are either a fringe playoff team or a true championship contender.
December 10th, 2017 at 11:37 AM ^
Is because Blashill is fucking oblivious, he thinks the guys have "bought in" on what he is preaching after they lose 10-1 at Montreal. Is his message to embarass this formerly proud organization? He refuses to give Athanisiou the playing time he deserves, which is what led to that contract standoff earlier this year. He also lost the locker room to Zetterberg early in his tenure which is why Nik Kronwall and Jonathan Ericcson are Top 6 defensemen when Kronwall is skating on one leg and Ericcson has been below replacement level for years. Your statement that Scotty would not make the postseason with this team is accurate but they damn sure would look better than they do.
December 10th, 2017 at 5:13 AM ^
The sad thing is we're going to suck but its going to take many years to undo the f*ck all salary cap mess Holland has us in.
December 10th, 2017 at 5:15 AM ^
I was on my phone and didn't make it all the way down your post about Gallant. I completely agree on that one. FL was so dumb for firing him. He was really good there.
December 10th, 2017 at 6:39 AM ^
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December 10th, 2017 at 8:15 AM ^
and they need to pay Yzerman whatever he wants to come in and turn the Wings around
December 10th, 2017 at 10:14 AM ^
December 10th, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
December 10th, 2017 at 10:34 AM ^
OP had good intentions but it was brutal laboring through that read. Misterzolo hit the nail on the head.
December 10th, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
+1 for naming Hicketts.
December 10th, 2017 at 10:54 AM ^
December 10th, 2017 at 2:03 PM ^
Trust me when I tell you, they likely don’t have much in Svech. Not a future top 6 forward, which is what they needed in that slot.
December 10th, 2017 at 11:42 AM ^
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December 10th, 2017 at 11:09 AM ^
December 10th, 2017 at 11:14 AM ^
I like the Gerard Gallant suggestion, though I don't really care who the coach is this year. Holland's gotta go, Stevie Y needs to come home, and we need to continue losing the rest of the year.
December 10th, 2017 at 11:20 AM ^
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December 10th, 2017 at 11:33 AM ^
so you're saying yzerman is coming back?
December 10th, 2017 at 11:33 AM ^
so you're saying yzerman is coming back?
December 10th, 2017 at 11:39 AM ^
December 10th, 2017 at 11:40 AM ^
so you're saying yzerman is coming back?
(Third time's the charm, right?)
December 10th, 2017 at 11:39 AM ^
December 10th, 2017 at 11:44 AM ^
The Wings definitely need to tank this season and get the number one pick. Then fire Holland and Blashill before they are allowed to fuck up the draft. Is Jimmy Devellano still pulling strings in the organization? Because I have doubts that Chris Ilitch will know what to do.
December 10th, 2017 at 3:46 PM ^
Yup, stuck in the 90's Jimmy is still there.
December 10th, 2017 at 8:36 PM ^
Only problem is that finishing last in the league does not guarantee the top pick. I think it only ensures you about an 18% chance of getting the top pick and only a 50% chance of picking in the top 3 (the worst team picks no lower than 4th).
Right now the Red Wings have the 6th worst record in the league (and dropping rapidly) which would only give them a about a 23% chance of picking in the top 3. They actually would have higher chance (60%) of falling back to 7th or 8th.
So I guess it takes luck to be able to draft the elite talent. Only Gary Bettman could come up with this shit.
http://www.tankathon.com/nhl/pick_odds
December 10th, 2017 at 11:45 AM ^
But it was Scotty and Jimmy Devellano that put together the skeleton of the Stanley Cup winning teams between 97 and 02, and then the remaining core pieces (read: Lidstrom) helped win in 2008 with a few assists from scouting extraordinare Hakan Andersson in terms of Pavel/ZBerg. Since the turn of the decade, Holland has actively shit the bed nearly every season except for a few moves:
- 2012: Holland traded a first round pick for Kyle Quincey
- 2013: Holland signs Stephen Weiss, who no one inside the Panthers organization had ever heard of
- 2014: Holland trades Calle Jarnkrok AND Patrick Eaves for an aging David Legwand, who did nothing
- 2015: Holland trades Mattias Janmark for Erik Cole
- 2016: He trades Pavel Datsyuk's dead cap space to Arziona, Coyotes select Jakob Chycurn, who has been a fantastic NHL defenseman at a young age, Dennis Cholowski will play four years at St Cloud St and be lucky to make the NHL
I can only wait for what terrible move he makes next. Chris Illitch needs to sack up and fire Holland or sell the team to an owner who cares as much as his dad did when he was alive.
December 10th, 2017 at 12:00 PM ^
Was fine at the time. It was assumed the Wings had a shot to land Stamkos after they had cleared cap space by trading Datsyuk's contract. That said, the way he used the cap space after Stamkos resigned with Tampa was terrible. The Wings could be in a great cap situation, but they aren't and Holland is soley to blame.
December 10th, 2017 at 11:58 AM ^
Seriously? What the hell is with "Kenny boy"? Are you and your droogs done ranting about the WIngs now? Btw, you're about 2 years late on the "Ken Holland should be fired" wagon. Poor draft picks and prioritizing the streak over actually competing for the Cup is a huge reason why they are stuck where they are now. Unlike you, I don't see a reason Yzerman would come back. He has built a great team in Tampa, don't know why he would give that up right now. He could have been the GM years ago had Holland agreed to take the promotion and give the reigns to Yzerman. Holland has made poor draft picks and treated young talent like pieces of shit in public. Calling out Mantha the last two years and the bullshit that went on with AA. Holland and Blashill need to go, but they needed to go at least a year ago. Watch, don't watch, I don't give a shit, but that garbage you typed seemed nothing more than a guy who drank too much, watched a shitty Wings game and then vented while playing Singing in the Rain in the background, Georgie Boy.
December 10th, 2017 at 1:38 PM ^