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April 16th, 2016 at 12:42 PM ^
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April 16th, 2016 at 12:27 PM ^
1) Are you saying that Michigan Lacrosse head coach John Paul is essentially just another RichRod or Hoke and needs to be replaced?
2) Have you played Lacrosse?
April 16th, 2016 at 12:40 PM ^
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15-54 in 5 years is not good. Regressing this year from consecutive 5 win seasons to likely a 3 or 4 win season.
All we'll be doing is trying to get to .500 as long as he's the head coach. Not competing for championships.
then why is Marquette doing so well? their men's lacrosse program started after ours
But we're talking about being competitive! We're talking about winning 5 games or so! It's not about recruiting, it's about the system, the discipline, the style, and the coaching.
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April 16th, 2016 at 12:33 PM ^
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Patience is a virtue. Apparently the 2017 recruiting class is absolutely loaded for Michigan.
2018 is looking equally as impressive
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5 years is a lot of patience, Michigan should be bettter than they are and the coaching just isn't good, poor offensive sets, bad slides on defense, etc.
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I agree, but let's see how they do in the next few years with all these 5 star recruits coming in and brand new facilities on the way. If we aren't a national title contender by then I'll concede it's time for a change.
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Bad coaching is bad coaching, there are high school teams in maryland with more complicated offenses that are less sloppy than this team, we are losing to a team with no big ten wins, can't make the big ten tourney. If we let good recruiting buy a bad coach extra time Hoke would still be coaching at Michigan. Good recruiting doesn't excuse poor coaching.
So you want John Beilein fired, who rescued the basketball program and won two B1G Championships and went to the national championship game in 3 years............but you want 15-55 John Paul to get more time for some recruits that will be freshmen in two years.....?
You're insane.
JP has had enough time. His team is made up of players that he recruited and a 3-win season is the best we are gonna get in year 5. Enough is enough.
Racking up double digit losses every year while younger programs are actually winning with less is not gonna fly for much longer. He'll likely get one more year since KJ being injured can be used as an excuse for this losing skid.
Spoiler: our record has still been horrible even with KJ.
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April 17th, 2016 at 12:28 PM ^
I never said I want John Beilein fired. I said I want him to recruit better and actually coach defense. Stop putting words in my mouth and misrepresenting my comments. I know that's difficult for you, but try.
Also, lets put to rest Beilein "rescued" anything. He took over a team that had won over 20 games the previous two years, inherited Manny, Epke, and Deshawn, and was getting a 100 million dollar basketball complex.
April 16th, 2016 at 12:58 PM ^
seems like Michigan has been recruiting well enough to be at least a decent-to-good program at this point but we continue to be...not good. Whats the deal?
Were you for Rich Rod and Hoke getting another year too? The proof is staring you right in the face.
April 16th, 2016 at 12:46 PM ^
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Having grown up in Michigan, and then moving to central NY, I can attest that elite athletes definitely choose lacrosse. I was shocked when I moved to NY how many kids you see walking to school with a lacrosse stick (even inner city kids).
To the people who don't know anything about the sport saying we should be patient. Anyone who has played lacrosse can see how painfully obvious it is that we have by far the worst coaching staff of any D1 team in a legitimate position to contend. The awful technique and mental errors in every facet are unbelievable and they have not improved, year after year.
Like Hoke, JP cares a lot and deserves credit for building the program but it is so clear that he and his assistants are in over their heads. As shown by playing Maryland and Rutgers close, we have the talent to be a ranked team right now but lack even semi-competent coaching and what we have seen through five years won't change until we move on, regardless of our talent level. If we didn't have an elite goalie we would probably be winless with not many games even competitive.
I've said this multiple times on the board, but I played for JP back when it was a club team (over 10 years ago) and even then we thought the staff was sub-par. They do need a staff upgrade if they want to contend.
So why were we such a good club program then? Just by virtue of having a really strong pull on the east coast in general?
The program was also run like a D1 program, way more seriously than my friends who played at western and central and MSU, who were in the MCLA as well and played Michigan annually.
Can former players chime in...is this on point?
Morrison was a total asshole but was what made those years.