Brady Hoke comments on Harbaugh, Brandon & tenure at Michigan

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"The former Michigan head coach appeared on Detroit Sports 105.1-FM Friday with host Matt Dery, touching on a variety of topics. And, of course, he was asked about the man who replaced him -- Jim Harbaugh."

Source:  Mlive.com, 8/14/15, Nick Baumgardner

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/08/brady_hoke_talks_jim_harbaugh.html

JFW

August 14th, 2015 at 7:22 PM ^

I like hoke, but I was hoping for more support for Harbaugh. He seemed a little tepid.

Home is a good man, I believe. But you can see the difference in the interview between him and Harbaugh.

Harbaugh wants to WIN! He will go after it with singular intensity. It sounds like from the interview that Brady wasn't as committed to that.

To mix all sorts of things he reminds me of McClellan. He could recruit the guys bet didn't want to put them through the ringer to win.

To an extent I get it. I don't know that I could do that job. But at a smaller school he'd be a guy I'd who I'd be happy to have coach my son.

The biggest problem though is that team was falling apart. Execution was at lions under Daryl Rogers level and falling. Organization was shattering, with 10 men on he field and the concussion incident.

I know he kind of can't admit those things, but still... Don't go off defending yourself as doing a good job when the objective reality was so different.

"Dantonio got a chance to stay and build a program"

By his fourth year Dantonio didn't have the same issues Brady did



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CoverZero

August 14th, 2015 at 8:41 PM ^

Hoke is fairly disingenious in these comments.  This is not surprising to me.

I honestly do not feel that he worked all that hard as HC at Michigan.  Yeah, he may have been around the building "putting in hours" but did he really maximize his time and potential as HC? Doubt it.  Did he earn his $4 million a year contract?  Doubt it.  Did he constantly talk big while producing small?  Yes.

This is not to rip on him, he peformed to his own level of mediocrity.  It was Dave Brandon after all, who made this hire (which no doubt explains a good chunk of Hoke's reference for DB).

Hoke Failed.  His comments are a bit self serving and dillusional in that he is not taking responsibility for his Failure.

The greatest coaches are fanatical about their work ethic and success follows that.  Hoke just didnt have "it"

Boner Stabone

August 14th, 2015 at 9:57 PM ^

Cant wait for John U. Bacon's new book to come out on the whole situation of Hoke and Brandon.  That will be some interesting reading.  BTW.... when is the official date it does come out?

bluepow

August 14th, 2015 at 11:26 PM ^

Those were not softball questions but the replies, particularly the extended praise of Brandon and the inability to praise Harbaugh in even a coachspeak manner, took my opinion of the man down a few notches.

Bottom line: obviously too early.

Also: we just exited a very dark period.  So nice to see the morning glow on the horizon.

alum96

August 14th, 2015 at 10:06 PM ^

I cant even  measure how depressed I'd be if this guy was still our coach.   Its laughable comparing himself to Dantonio - he had top 10-15 classes and was able to piss out money out the wazoo to hire good coaches and hired a bunch of crap coaches that almost no div 1 program wanted once they were let go.  By year 4 Dantonios' team were at least good at something.  And were tough. 

I am tired of Brady Hoke. Sorry.  Go disappear for 4 years and resurface then and talk about your good times - maybe by then I'll recover from the sad disorganized teams you put out.

chewieblue

August 14th, 2015 at 10:56 PM ^

after being fired from your dream job. Guy has to be hurt. He will be for a long time, and he should be. In time, he'll be most remembered for what he should be, a good man who cared about his players and loved Michigan.

TheRaven

August 15th, 2015 at 12:40 AM ^

going on behind the scenes with the QBs.  By starting Shane vs Minnie they were trying to teach Gardner a lesson and/or put Shane to test.  My guess is the staff questioned Shane's toughness or commitment and Shane knew it, which is why he refused to come out.

AND, they wanted to stick it to Gardner after the horrible start, which included ND and Utah. Hoke was probably sick of Gardner's performance since Akron the previous year.  Coaches can be stuborn and Hoke had few options with the QBs and he had nobody to blame, but himself.  That more than anything else got him fired.

MgoRayO3313

August 15th, 2015 at 7:08 PM ^

This is very true. Gardner had beat Minnesota badly previously. I thought for
Sure he'd start. But then again when you watch the previous year's game against Minnesota and you watch last year's Gardner, those two QBs looked entirely different. One of few guys I truly feel like regressed as he went on. Became gun shy after 2013.



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LostOnNorth

August 15th, 2015 at 8:06 PM ^

true colors finally showing. This tends to happen with people who do such a comprehensive job of making everyone think he's a "good guy" when their web of lies is finally set on fire. Making everyone love you is a good way to make sure your ass is covered when you fail or perform like crap

uminks

August 15th, 2015 at 3:44 AM ^

After the 2011 season I thought Hoke was the coach Michigan had been looking for. Even after 2012 I thought Gardner was going to be our next great QB. The 2013 season really changed my opinion of Hoke as even being a half decent coach. After KSU blew us out I knew Hoke was done at Michigan! Hoke even said in his introduction speech that  if he did not win the B1G within his first 4 years he would resign!  The offense would have been a mess this season if some how Hoke remained coach. Rudock would never had transfered and Morris would not be ready!

Reader71

August 15th, 2015 at 4:33 AM ^

Wow, my boy came off really, really bitter. [edit] - Upon listening to the interview, I got no sense of bitterness. And he went on for over a minute about not being a distraction and telling the kids they have to focus on the now, which no one else mentioned in any of the comments or in the linked article. Still, you can tell he thinks he either should still he the coach or thinks the team is about to turn the corner and this year would have saved him. At least he didn't say it. Even I would have had to roll my eyes at that.

uncleFred

August 15th, 2015 at 8:49 AM ^

Not all of it but plenty of questions that were looking for a quote. In such situations you answer the initial question to divert or direct follow up questions. If he doesn't talk much about Harbaugh he doesn't get questions about what Harbaugh should do differently or end up being portrayed as giving advice or having Michigan's reaction to Harbaughs hire compared to his hire. I agree that his firing and Harbaugh's hiring was a tender subject with Hoke, but I would characterize it as moderately bitter. Similarly he doesn't want to get into story telling about him and Jim. So he deemphasizes the closeness of their friendship. 

There is also no reason at all for Hoke to do anything but support Brandon. In Hoke's terms this is "big boy" football, professionals don't tell tales in public, at least while the subjects are still breathing.

I took the RIchRod comment as saying in effect "Rich was a good coach who succeeded after he left Michigan, and I will too." He wasn't giving RichRod love and dumping on Harbaugh, he was telling us that his career is far from over.

Hoke, like any other coach would have liked another year. Given who replaced him, releasing him was clearly in the best interest of Michigan football, so I support Hackett's decision. Despite his and the team's problems last season, I hold the opinion that overall Hoke left the program better off than he found it. We have a new coach and a renewed expectation of future greatness. Dumping on Hoke at this stage is pointless and I wish him every success going forward.

Year of Revenge II

August 15th, 2015 at 10:39 AM ^

I guess the label of "former Michigan coach" got him the job at Sirius.  He is not capable of answering a question; he can only occasionally formulate grammatically correct sentences.  

Whatever the over/under is on how many days he lasts at Sirius, I'm taking the under.  It's going to be a train wreck if he opens his mouth, and it is radio...

Dave Brandon and Brady Hoke were both horrible hires for UM. The quicker they fade into to the obscurity that they so justly deserve, the happier I will become.  Whether either, or both, are good people is not the point; they each played integral parts in in the Unversity's athletic programs going backwards, and no matter how good I could be with words, I cannot tell it as bad as it actually was.  I will simply read Bacon whenever I want to rehash it.

In a way, I have DB and BH to thank---without their bumbling, stumbling, UM might not have Harbaugh.  Sometimes you cannot appreciate the light until you walk through the darkness.

 

Ann Arbor Cardinal

August 15th, 2015 at 11:18 AM ^

"I'm happy for Jim. And Michigan has great support without question. They've got tremendous fan support, great resources, and it looks like that's why they targeted Jim from day one, and they're probably thrilled that he's coming back. I don't know him, but I know he wins. He had great success there as a player. He's had great success as a coach too, and I'm sure they're excited."

 

That comes from Mr. Rodriguez. If anyone has a reason to be bitter, it's Mr. Rodriguez. But that was his response to a question about Mr. Harbaugh. A response he came up with even though he wasn't expecting the question, and even though the question came when Arizona was at its bowl game (and the focus should have been on them). Since he can respond like a "big boy" (to use a phrase of Mr. Hoke's) in those circumstances, I think many of us were looking for something similar from Mr. Hoke - he knew the question was coming, he's been treated with nothing but respect from everyone at UM, and he claims (or claimed) to be a loyal Michigan guy.

I also point to the recent post mortem, If You Pretend You Are A Statue Do Not Be Surprised When You Erode, for another thing I find irritating. That post ends with this: "Brady Hoke stood there in the rain without so much as shaking a fist at the heavens." This interview is Mr. Hoke shaking a fist. What's irritating is that he does it now. Why couldn't he have just once done it as UM's coach? Now that the pressure is off and his ability to do anything for UM - positive or negative - is gone, now he decides to have a meaningful opinion and say something with bite. It's too late; I hope Mr. Hoke is never interviewed about UM again. He forfeited his right to express an opinion when he went four years without shaking a fist.

westwardwolverine

August 16th, 2015 at 2:25 PM ^

Really, this isn't surprising. It just lends more evidence to the fact that Hoke is just a normal human being who is a pretty nice man, not some magical molder of men who can change your life just by being around him as some people on this board would have you believe.