How to keep up the pressure for Brandon's removal?
After another extremely poor showing last night, we're all just as sick of Hoke and the administration as last week. But, I fear that the prediction that Brandon could skate through this mess could be true if we (the fans and especially the students) don't come up with another way to focus anger towards Brandon.
We all know that Hoke is gone sometime after the OSU game (I personally don't believe it's possible that he'll be let go sooner than that). But, I'm afraid of the situation where Brandon is still here and uses the firing of Hoke as his "Get out of jail free" card. It seems that momentum towards Brandon's removal has stalled - my question is therefore, what can we practically do to restart that momentum and help Schlissel see that adding walkie-talkies and firing Hoke is not reason enough for Brandon to be retained?
Alas, the only 2 ideas I have are:
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Another "Fire Brandon" chant during the PSU game
Although this is relatively easy to do, I doubt it'll have any practical effect as Schlissel may never learn about it. -
Another rally outside the President's house
I'm unsure how effective repeating the same stunt will be... but if students were to gather there on their way back from the PSU game maybe a critical mass could be achieved such that it would attract more than the 500-1000 that were at the original rally. -
Edit: enlightenbum had the good idea to show up at the Regents meeting on Wednesday (10/8) at the School of Public Policy.
This seems like an excellent place to show anti-Brandon sentiment to people with decision making power, Schlissel's ear, and who are willing to listen since they're elected officials -
Edit: kakusei pointed out that Brandon obviously has a special place for UTL games. If stduents showed up 20-30 minutes late en masse, that would send a message that the commentators couldn't help but talk about (especially if it's followed by a Fire Brandon chant).
But, the logistics of making that happen would be... difficult at best.
MGoBlog is the effective epicenter of student and fan disapproval towards Brandon. If we want him gone in time for a new AD to make the coaching hire, then I think it's our responsibility to come up with practical ways to ensure Schlissel can't ignore the will of the fans.
So... what's your idea?
Edit: Removed typo and made title clearer.
October 5th, 2014 at 12:51 PM ^
The only thought I have is that we are focusing on the football game and the team. I feel that we need to focus on other issues. This is not a comprehensive list and there are others who know a lot more about this than I do. But, pushing the agenda of draining the students, alumni and season ticket holders and increasing the cheap thrills in an esteemed academic institution should be the best bet.
Some issues I have with Brandon (not comprehensive at all and not in any order):
1. Concession stand prices (including water debacle)
2. Jersey numbers
3. Fireworks, Noodle, Jetpacks
4. Season ticket holders prices and right to buy issue
5. Shrinkage of student tickets
6. Increasing the student ticket prices
7. Throwing the coach under the bus
8. 1am press release
9. Not engaging good coaches during the search
10. Sitting in on coaching sessions
11. Not being an administrator and staying classy (comparable: President going over to various classes and watching the professor's lectures-How would that go.)
12. Wasting dollars building indoor stadium for rowing team
13. Not taking care of the fans who support the football stadium
14. Messing up the tradition of Michigan football and how prestigious it is
I am probably wrong on some, but the point stands. This is not just about wins and losses. We need to focus on other things. Student section chanting during the game some of these matters over and over again should help. "Supporting the team. Not the AD and Hoke". "Reduce student ticket prices. Don't be greedy". "Lay Low Brandon". "Stop the Gimmicks"
You can also do some slogans in front of his office and house. I like the march during PSU game, but I think it has to be before that. You do not want a bad incident after midnight.
Please don't neg me. I am as frustrated as some of you are...
October 5th, 2014 at 1:18 PM ^
#12, really? First of all, i'm pretty sure it's just a practice facility, but you'd rather them just use rowing machines all winter?
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I can see both ways on this one. Do we really need one? Or why should that team suffer and what kind of difference that facility made for the team. I am sure I can argue both ways...
October 5th, 2014 at 2:08 PM ^
I dont' know. Personally, I think what he is doing for the non-rev sports facilities is fantastic. It's the primary (only?) redeeming thing he has done.
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Someone with the requisite sense of history and with good writing skills needs to draft a Declaration of Incompetence. This would be a very Michigan thing to do. Then open it up to all willing signers to add their John Hancock's.
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"IN ANN ARBOR, October 5, 2014.
The unanimous Declaration of the united Wolverines of Michigan,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the corporate bands which have connected them with an incompetent athletic director, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of all academic and athletic supporters requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. ..."
October 5th, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^
It's simple. Boycott the games. I'm not going to any more until DB is gone.
October 5th, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^
Fire Brandon chants don't work. I was at the Minny game in seciton 19 and I didn't hear anything....I suppose if we ensure they are heard on the TV broadcast that is great but a picture tells a 1,000 words.
Let's get a Fire Brandon tifo going in the student section. If that is too hard to smuggle in than just get 10-12 kids to bring in a rolled up sheet of paper and spell out:
F-I-R-E B-R-A-N-D-O-N
This is guaranteed to be on sportscenter and you are also guaranteed at least 5-7 zoom-ins with screen time on ABC. Doing this for the PSU UTL III would be perfect.
Why should we limit this to kids. If some here on the Mgoblog-osphere tailgate and go to games why not have some of you with another
F-I-R-E B-R-A-N-D-O-N
somewhere outside the student section as well.
October 5th, 2014 at 1:07 PM ^
i dont think the logistics of a boycott of kickoff at PSU would actually be that hard. if we publicize, through this blog and elsewhere (remember, the national media is already looking at mgoblog and the forums! and things are definitely bound to heat up this week), I think most students would be aware of the protest. For those that arent, thanks to the bottleneck at the section entrances, it would be very easy to voice our intent to those who didn't get the memo - im thinking having 'volunteers' stand outside each section with large signs imploring students not to enter the stadium until after kickoff. We can also have same volunteers run down the stands right before the game kicks off and round those up who want to partake in the protest. This. could. work.
October 5th, 2014 at 1:10 PM ^
Just my two cents -
I don't think chants at the game will work, and I think the powers that be (as well as the media) will get used to protests at the president's house. We need to use the media to amplify the message, and I think we do that with visuals. Two that come to mind - rows of empty seats at a home game, and related, if you have tickets to the game but are not attending in protest, video the burning of it and put it on social media. I don't know the in and outs of twitter but it sounds like someone can come up with a clever hastag and get all of these clips linked so that we tee it up for the mainstream media to run with it.
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i think the subsequent rallys at the regents meeting or whatever are a great idea, but its likely to have only about 1000 students (at most) and brandon, the regents, etc will likely treat this as just another abberation; not representative of the collective opinion of all michigan students. and another rally, while great, will be seen as a bit stale - we NEED something more creative, somehting more impressionable.
the optics for such a campaign to oust Brandon need to be right. nothing will be more attention grabbing than a boycott of kickoff at PSU. with those overhead shots the image will be burned into the eyeballs of television audiences everywhere and is likely to be replyed on sportscenter and other news programs. the announcers will likely start talking about and will be a running conversation throughout the game. the regents will have no choice after that game but to fire brandon.
October 5th, 2014 at 1:30 PM ^
The student section needs a Tifo at the PSU game. This needs to happen.
A large banner, with a pointed message, would truly get the point across on the national stage.
I know we have some dedicated students perusing the board (and maybe some hardcore soccer fans to boot that know what I'm talking about?) so can we please get this going?
If you're unsure what a Tifo is, please google it.
We can leave the flares at home, though.
October 5th, 2014 at 1:39 PM ^
A list of suggestions:
#Brandgazi - Really more for the media firestorm of last week, but I thought it was funny when I saw it. It is clever so could catch on.
#FireDave - Short, simple
#FireDaveBrandon - avoids causing unncessary anxiety to others named Dave
#FirePizzaBoy - juvenile, deserved
#createthefuture combined with #FireDaveBrandon
October 5th, 2014 at 1:53 PM ^
I'm guessing the best way to keep up the pressure is for the team to keep losing.
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We could try to put together a protest of sorts at Gate 10 at any of the upcoming home games. Whether it is trying to get people to come in late or not go to the game at all, this would be a way to reach a ton of people.
I'm pretty sure we could do this - the Jesus people have been there multiple games, we can just steal their thunder
October 5th, 2014 at 2:02 PM ^
Everybody in the student section should print an 8x11 paper with FIRE DAVE BRANDON on it. If everyone in the student section holds that up that'll be enough of a signal and will loop over and over again on sportscenter
For guys, we should all dress up in suits with name tags that say "I'm Dave Brandon" and a piece of paper printed and taped on our backs that says "FIRE ME"!
I also love the idea of boycotting kickoff and having the students stream into their seats chanting "Fire Dave Brandon"!
Signed Lovingly,
A Gap B Gap Guy
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The games
When the stands are empty then actions will be required. Im all for supporting the players but if I read things correctly and see players saying "wins and losses are just statistis" then they no longer deserve an audience.
October 5th, 2014 at 2:57 PM ^
Arizona is No. 10 this week after being unranked last week. That's the largest jump into the poll since it went to Top 25 in 1989.
October 5th, 2014 at 3:12 PM ^
According to a Texas rancher: "Tryin’ ta burn it off the cow will land ya in the big house for rustlin'."
October 5th, 2014 at 5:40 PM ^
I would be on the lookout for a "sudden change of venue" announced pubicly a few minutes before the meeting. If it happened that way, thoiugh, at least it would indicate that the trustees and admins are fully coginzant of the displeasure the football program is brining to Ann Arbor.
October 5th, 2014 at 5:44 PM ^
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The attitude of the athletic department at game day say mid 1980s?
1. If the ushers could get their hands on a beach ball they stabbed it with whatever sharp object was available or rent the seam(s) effectively destroying it so it could no longer be used.
2. If a football went over the catch-net behind the field goal an usher pretty much gave chase, pell mell into the crowd to get the ball back. The game was to keep passing it up the stadium until it went over the top edge where someone else got it and was supposed to run it out to the exterior chain link (in those days) and chuck it to someone else to take it home. Basically it was an eye poke at the athletic department for not being willing to give up a single football. People were escorted outside the chain link perimeter for juking the person trying to reclaim the football.
3. Your tickets were constantly checked at every entry portal in and out by yellow rain slicker people who werent afraid to tell you to get lost in so many words. If there were long lines that was your problem.
4. The womens' bathroom situation was an embarrassment. As I recall there were only two womens' bathrooms in the entire stadium, one north and one south. The lines were back to forevvvver.
5. Armed LEOs ringed the field to keep people OFF at all costs, usually this was post game. You wanna challenge a guy with a gun?
And I never heard a peep out of anyone wanting to fire anybody. I bet if the Athletic Dept went back to "established past practices" we'd be reading about it in TIME magazine. Piling on the Athletic Director because people are mad about the team's record is kinda cheap. As I've posted before I completely understand how Brandon has alienated various groups at different times and done a few things in poor taste...the skywriting sticks in my mind.
You guys want a Rally, try the No Guns No Cops No Code that swept thru campus when Michigan decided to employ, train, and arm its own police force back in the early 90s. That had the backing of the entire student body...and swept all thru campus...no flash mobs covered by blogs and ESPN in those days friends. Duderstadt was holed up in the Ad Building and had to leave thru the steam tunnel contingency exits....so maybe some perspective and history on why I think this line to fire the AD is gettting a little old and doesn't have much backing other than some unallocated venom from fans pissed about the W-L record this season. My post probably smacks of the "we walked uphill to school both ways in the snow when I was a kid" but its my perspective since I lived it.
October 5th, 2014 at 11:37 PM ^
how on Earth did that lead you to the conclusion that no one should try it in 2014?
How can you have participated in this and settled on the answer, "fuck it, let's just all give up."
I don't get people sometimes.
October 5th, 2014 at 8:06 PM ^
Guys with gravitas have to lean on the regents. Gravitas comes in 2 flavors:
1. Money
2. Political power
Somebody in the relevant political party ringing up a regent would set a bonfire that 10,000 students coulnd't hope to make.
I'm not saying that's the way things should be, just the way they are.
October 5th, 2014 at 9:18 PM ^
October 5th, 2014 at 11:18 PM ^
love the idea of boycotting the kickoff.
Hold another rally, make sure it's bigger than the last one.
I still don't really understand why my thread explaining how important this group of students is to the future of Michigan athletics got hammered, but I haven't changed my opinion. We are all counting on them. Student unrest, when well organized, is damn hard to ignore. I've seen it bring about improbable change with my own two eyes.