Noon Games Open Thread
Incredibly full day of good games today - some in each time slot rather than being all stuffed at 8 PM to boot. Going to be a good one.
OSU v Maryland and A&M v Miss State (no defense to be played) should be the 2 most interesting in the noon time slot
- Ball State at Army, CBS Sports Net, noon
- Florida at Tennessee, SEC, noon
- Iowa State at Oklahoma State, FS1, noon
- Marshall at Old Dominion, FSN, noon
- Ohio State at Maryland, ABC, noon
- Purdue at Illinois, ESPN2, noon
- SMU at East Carolina, ESPNU, noon
- Texas A&M at MIssissippi State, ESPN, noon
October 4th, 2014 at 12:50 PM ^
1999 Michigan Offense: Carr's Manball.Every starter made it to NFL for at least a cup of coffee.Brady,A-Train,Hutchison etc. 37 rush attempts per game 119 yards pg. 3.2 per carry.
2008 Michigan Offense: RR 1st season.One of the worst QB's in Mich history.Molk Soph year.38 rush attempts per game.148 yards per game.3.9 per carry.
Every Saturday I see numerous teams run some version of a 'spread em out,option type offense' with some level of success.Then I watch us try to pound the ball with minimal success.Many say when the O-Line gets better our Manball approach will succeed but just look at the 1999 O-Line and the stats.Our offensive woes are more a function of an arcane philosphy than bad O-Line,poor QB play etc.
October 4th, 2014 at 12:53 PM ^
lol, even Bama goes no huddle now and Stanford's offense hasn't truly been good since they had one of the best 10 QBs in the world on it.
October 4th, 2014 at 12:55 PM ^
You know it's archaic when even NFL teams are winning with spread zone read type offenses nowadays.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:00 PM ^
but at their core NFL teams still use pro style. The use of the pistol formation or read option is a package, not the foundation of most NFL offenses.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^
Why 1999 and not the 2000 offense?? Why not compare the 1991 offense and the 2010 offense?
Frankly, I'd prefer the 1991 offense with Elvis Grbac, Dez, Derrick Alexander, Tony McGee, Ricky Powers, Jesse Johnson, and Tyrone Wheatley. Two explosive receivers(and returners), an excellent receiving TE, and three quality backs. This was the best Michigan since I don't know when. You had productive players at all levels.
It's not so much about scheme as coaching. A pro style offense can be every bit as effective as a spread if a coach is willing to be aggressive. The problem with Manball as Hoke and Carr interpreted it was that it was designed to minimize mistakes. It was a philosophy based on fear. You can't coach like that in modern football.
The best attribute of guys like Meyer and Rodriguez is that they don't coach with fear. They coach with hyper aggressiveness. The same is true for a Dantonio and Narduzzi from a defensive standpoint. They want to crush you. You are the nail and they the hammer. That is what Michigan needs.
Michigan needs to change it's core philosophy from one based on fear of mistakes to one based on intelligent aggressivess.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:37 PM ^
Agree with you about fear vs intelligent aggressiveness philosophy. I chose 1999 because of the current meme that our offensive problem is O-Line and 1999 O-Line was one our best ever.I chose 2008 because it was RR 1st year & probably his worst team talent wise.
FWIW I looked up 1991 & 2010. I agree 1991 was a good offense.
1991 Rushing Yards Per Game 232 on 45 attempts pg. Passing Yards 188 pg. 24 attempts per game.
2010 Rushing Yards per game 250 on 30 attempts pg. Passing Yards 238 pg. 42 attempts pg.
October 4th, 2014 at 5:35 PM ^
No one on the 10' team is comparable to that UW which was just ridiculously good.
October 4th, 2014 at 12:50 PM ^
This might be it for him if they lose and he doesn't play well.
October 4th, 2014 at 12:52 PM ^
Brown is bad.
October 4th, 2014 at 12:52 PM ^
Wow Armani Reeves and Stefon Diggs both fighting for the ball... Man does that bring back recruiting memories...
Double whammy on that one
October 4th, 2014 at 12:56 PM ^
It so crazy watching these "recruiting battles" years later.
October 4th, 2014 at 12:52 PM ^
Wow Armani Reeves and Stefon Diggs both fighting for the ball... Man does that bring back recruiting memories...
Double whammy on that one
October 4th, 2014 at 12:54 PM ^
October 4th, 2014 at 12:56 PM ^
What has happened to the SEC defenses? Miss St.'s tackling leaves a lot to be desired to say the least.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^
They all got drafted.
October 4th, 2014 at 12:59 PM ^
21-3 OSU. They look so much better in EVERY facet of the game from the VA Tech game a month ago. Must be nice.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^
nice catch.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:04 PM ^
October 4th, 2014 at 1:07 PM ^
Maryland is no different than Utah or Minnesota. And this is a road game for OSU. We had Utah and Minn at home.
October 4th, 2014 at 12:59 PM ^
Is what we ran in the 2008 Cap One Bowl.
NFL style spread where you can get under center, you can go from the shotgun, you can go 5 wide or 2 TE.
I loved the flexibility with that offense and 2 fumbles by a kid who never fumbled kept UF in the game.
Give me that offense and give me an attacking defense.
I'm not a huge fan of the Oregon spread or even Rich Rod's spread. I don't want to be in "and 1" or in goalline situations trying to go from the shotgun.
I really like the flexibility to have a QB like a Shane Morris who can spread it out, but also get under center and run something a little more traditional.
The key for me is having an elite OL and being able to play with pace. I'm a bgi fan of the "check with me" style no huddle. We don't have to go fast, but we can if we want. I want to dictate the pace of the game...not the other way around.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:02 PM ^
October 4th, 2014 at 1:04 PM ^
That was such a frustrating win. Had all that talent and it took years to finally use it all at once.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^
Totally agree with you.When Carr came out with 4 wide outs on 1st play inside our own 10 I thought I was hallucinating.I have a friend who had a heart attack that day I swear that's what caused it lol
October 4th, 2014 at 1:12 PM ^
...but I still watch that game screaming at my TV or computer as to why we didn't use that offense at any other opinion in the Henne/Hart era. Not with Edwards or with Manningham/Arrington.
And it's literally what ALL Michigan fans were clamoring for all year.
Borges finally throwing the screens vs. OSU last year was somewhat the same, even if they weren't bubble screens.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:10 PM ^
To have the offense from that game and the '97 defense...that's my dream team right there.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:02 PM ^
PSU fans everywhere are going apeshit
October 4th, 2014 at 1:00 PM ^
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October 4th, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^
Are they the ones who received the revelation of playcalling many years ago and only they understand the game of Football?
October 4th, 2014 at 1:00 PM ^
Sumlin's defense is LOL worthy
October 4th, 2014 at 1:03 PM ^
Larry Brown and Mack Brown?
That would be an interesting "over the hill" combo. They have the clout, the school has the resources.
Stranger things have happened.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^
21-7 Miss State. More cowbell.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^
21-7 MSU.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^
Joey Bosa is a friggin animal.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:10 PM ^
Fall out of the endzone! Don't straighten up!
October 4th, 2014 at 1:13 PM ^
Hah, A&M Wr has ball in his hand and as he is falling ball bounces skyward and right into hands of MSU DB.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:13 PM ^
October 4th, 2014 at 1:13 PM ^
This Maryland OLine looks very familiar...
October 4th, 2014 at 1:14 PM ^
Purdue 14 - Illini 14. I can't believe ESPN2 is showing this game. Sad fact is that both these team may be able to beat Michigan. Look at how well OSU young OL is playing. No excuses blamed on youth!
October 4th, 2014 at 1:16 PM ^
I'm sure they had the chance to take it off ESPN2's hands and they were like "nah brah, I'm good."
October 4th, 2014 at 1:17 PM ^
I'm so glad we pressured NY/NJ to carry BTN so we can make them watch volleyball.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:14 PM ^
There fans are screaming for him right now...
I wonder if Kirby Smart or Jim McElwain would go to Miss St.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:16 PM ^
This is my first Saturday of the season when I'm watching a bunch of games. I'm in my glory, but it's such a stark reminder of how stagnant and boring our offense is. Some of these games are just fun to watch. I'd like to feel like way about our O.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:17 PM ^
It was AWFUL!
This week, and the following 3 are going to be heavenly.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:20 PM ^
offenses were more fun to watch then Nuss'. Nuss is just so conservative. Yeah, we are getting slightly more rushing yardage but who the hell cares when it is still 1,2,3, punt. I hate manball!
October 4th, 2014 at 1:19 PM ^
1-3 Iowa State up 6-0 late in the 2nd vs the flying Mike Gundy's.... in Stillwater.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:22 PM ^
Jim delaney continues to be smartest guy in college football.
October 4th, 2014 at 1:24 PM ^
Is a great dual threat QB! Nice WR too!
October 4th, 2014 at 1:26 PM ^
WOW!
October 4th, 2014 at 1:26 PM ^
28-7. Maybe Sumlin will hire a DC at halftime. How he can roll out the same crap after finising 109th in the country last year is beyond me.