October 3rd, 2014 at 2:08 AM ^
Good for RR. He could never succeed at Michigan. Michigan needs to clean house. All the politics need to be removed before the program will sniff success again.
October 3rd, 2014 at 2:08 AM ^
He RAISED me up tonight. Good on him - was nice to see that man smile after all the hell he went thru. It will be like watching Hoke smile after his team wins a Division 2 conference championship at his next HC gig.
October 3rd, 2014 at 9:56 AM ^
One real measure of his perceived value would be to imagine some other strong football school hiring him as HC--not going to happen.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:36 AM ^
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October 3rd, 2014 at 2:32 AM ^
for sure....something close to 11-2 the next year would certainly have done it
October 3rd, 2014 at 9:52 AM ^
Hoke's record looks amazing sitting at 1-2 vs OSU with that win against a very sub-par 6-7 OSU team, and 0-3 against MSU.
Rich Rod's teams got better each year while Hoke's teams have regressed each season.
October 3rd, 2014 at 1:59 PM ^
Not could have turned U of M around. He absolutely would have turned Michigan around given time. Even with the undermining of everything he did. Yes he is that good of a coach and that will be proven in time. Nothing Michigan fans can do now but sit back and watch Rich Rod turn Arizona, a really bad football school, into a top 25 team consistently. It will happen and it could have been even better at Michigan but he was not given time. And that is why it was Michigan that was a failure, it is completely on them. RR will admit mistakes and all coaches make them but he was given no chance, the problem was Michigan.
He was rebuilding the roster and it takes time! I can understand fans who have little knowledge of football and just want to see "winz" over MSU and OSU without evaluating the roster RR inherited but there is no excuse as an institution to hire a man for as big of a rebuild job as he needed to complete and get rid of him in three years. It's laughable and it will be even more laughable as RR continues to show his coaching ability when he is given time to revamp a roster. Arizona is at the tip of what they will be when he actually has depth on that team. They have defensive issues due to depth and youth just as Michigan did but Arizona AD is completely aware of these issues and was all about giving RR the full amount of time to rebuild it.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:05 AM ^
is that he is such a likable, frank guy. The hostility toward the spread was SO FUCKING REACTIONARY. Just moronically so, when 90% of college ball had already embraced it. The Michigan Man talk was dumber than a pail of dead eels, when none of Michigan's great past coaches were Michigan men, either by the stupid defintion of those in charge. Now we're up to 95% of the sport employing it, and the fact we'll STILL have to somehow F*CK AROUND with a conversation about whether we stick to fake manball before we even make another hire just makes me so sleepy. . .
October 3rd, 2014 at 2:49 AM ^
I upvoted you for all the Groban love, man. Every. Single. One.
October 3rd, 2014 at 3:00 AM ^
It's like he's staring into my soul
October 3rd, 2014 at 2:15 AM ^
I'm happy for him, he got shit on hard and got a chance at redemption.... and ran with it.
October 3rd, 2014 at 2:17 AM ^
Rich Rodriguez, in his three years at Arizona, has had a new QB every year yet managed to beat a top 10 team each year.
The last time Michigan beat a Top 10 team?
Rich Rodriguez, 2008.
Fuck. Just fuck.
October 3rd, 2014 at 8:16 AM ^
Mannnnnn, Mich just can't get it right... :'(
October 3rd, 2014 at 2:20 AM ^
RR had so much extra time at Arizona not having to explain every fucking play to his AD on Sundays.
October 3rd, 2014 at 7:39 AM ^
me too man, me too :(
October 3rd, 2014 at 8:55 AM ^
Rich Rod's defense gave up 137 points in his final three games at Michigan.
137.
October 3rd, 2014 at 9:41 AM ^
...but that offense only put up 16.3 points in the last 3 games when Rich Rod was at Michigan.
So not only were we get ass raped on every offensive drive by the opposing team. We also couldn't score, the man who's an offensive guru and has a specialty, couldn't get it done.
Doesn't make him a bad coach, just is more reason why he was fired. Maybe if we scored 120 to the 137 and we showed a promising offense, he would've returned. But scoring 16.3 ppg didn't even give himself a fighting chance. It wasn't just Brandon who wanted him gone.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:10 AM ^
Listen to yourself dude. Its beyond moronic sitting where we are right now. We have averaged 14.5 in our last 4 games.. thats ALL the games we have played against BCS teams. The whole program is a dumpster fire. RR couldn't get his kids to focus in the middle of the "fire RR, who is our next coach going to be" circus that started just before he arrived in A2 3 years prior and was at a boiling point from midseason on that year? Shame on him!
October 4th, 2014 at 1:46 PM ^
Not just the Mississippi State game.
We didn't even COMPETE versus Wisconsin or OSU. Everyone just talks about bowl game. Take that out and we still were AWFUL.
October 6th, 2014 at 2:01 PM ^
...imagine if he had not been saddled with a tiny budget to hire a DC?
What if Carr had not all but told the entire team at thye time to transfer?
What if he had not been undermined from day one from inside the program and externally?
What if he had publicly been given another year rather than left in limbo that entire time?
Just the DC aspect alone would have been enough to get him through.
Damn.....what if M had just welcomed him with open arms and suported him 100%......after all, he ran an offense that was more like Bo's original option attack than any other coach in the country.....wouldn't that have been nice?
October 3rd, 2014 at 11:59 AM ^
I want it back too. Can we keep Greg Mattison though? :)
Rob
October 3rd, 2014 at 2:58 AM ^
fired the good coach and hired the bad coach! Karma's a bitch!
That RR D looke pretty damn good to me and of course the offense was moving the ball all night on Oregon!
October 3rd, 2014 at 3:09 AM ^
how many clowns wanted him gone on this blog. Many things kept getting better while he was Michigan's coach. Had to show him the door. Good call dippies.
October 3rd, 2014 at 12:06 PM ^
I believe (and believed) that RR is a superb coach. By the end of 2010, I also believed that it was highly unlikely he could succeed at Michigan, for many, many reasons.
The question is for me - Could he have fixed the D the next year the way Mattison did?
I don't know. I really just don't. GERG was so incredibly bad, and it's not obvious that he was going away. Why does this matter? Cause here we are again..Except I'm not convinced Brady Hoke is a superb football coach. Weirdly though, I do believe that both Mattison and Nussmeier are excellent - But it's also obvious that Nussmeier can't fix what's broken very quickly. :(
So the question is, are we about to do something similar to what happened with RR, where we have the right people (OC/DC) in place, and we're going to get rid of them because we're fed up and don't want to give Nussmeier enough time to right the offensive ship, much like many were fed up and didn't want to give RR the time to right the defensive ship?
Who the heck knows...
Rob
October 3rd, 2014 at 3:13 AM ^
Yeah, let's rehire the worst coach our program has ever had. I really miss getting blown out by rivals, commiting NCAA violations, having Wisconsin run the ball on 28 straight plays against us, missing bowl games, giving up 65 points to Illinois, not scoring against any defense with a pulse, and having half the team transfer. That was a real blast.
October 3rd, 2014 at 3:17 AM ^
Minnesota coming into the big house and blowing us out! WI would paste our team now! MN is slightly better than a MAC team! Pathetic!
October 3rd, 2014 at 3:21 AM ^
I agree, and that's why we need a new coach.
October 3rd, 2014 at 10:45 AM ^
October 3rd, 2014 at 3:18 AM ^
It's Michigan Men like you that are the problem and why RR never was given a chance to succeed. So I hope you're happy now with Brandon and Hoke. Let me know the next time Michigan hits Hoke's career peak of .500. It won't be soon.
October 3rd, 2014 at 3:49 AM ^
October 6th, 2014 at 2:02 PM ^
dumb...huh?