MBB: #2 Michigan vs Wisconsin Open Thread
Per MGoBlue.com:
The second-ranked University of Michigan men's basketball team (17-0) will head back onto the road traveling to Madison,Wisconsin, and the Kohl Center for a Big Ten battle Saturday (Jan. 19) afternoon at Wisconsin (11-6). With an 11 a.m. CST (noon EST) tipoff, the game will be broadcast on ESPN with Jason Benetti and Dan Dakich on the call.
Wisconsin stands at 11-6 overall and 3-3 in Big Ten play following a 64-60 setback at Maryland on Monday night (Jan. 14).
Saturday's game will be the 166th all-time meeting in the series. The Wolverines lead the all-time series, 94-71. U-M holds a 35-45 record in games played in Madison, Wisconsin. However, the Wolverines did win last season's game at the Kohl Center, 83-72 (Feb. 11).
Tip: 11:01 a.m. CT / 12:01 p.m. ET •
Location: Madison, Wisconsin •
Arena: Kohl Center (17,230) •
TV Broadcast: ESPN •
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January 19th, 2019 at 2:10 PM ^
Fuck John Oneil!!!!
January 19th, 2019 at 2:11 PM ^
The worst part about losing at Wisconsin is losing to a bad Wisconsin team in Wisconsin. Wisconsin is not a good team, except happ of course, and that makes this so much worse.
UM will lose up to 6 more games, maybe the last 6 to finish the regular season. This team has taken a step back and is very overrated right now.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:13 PM ^
LOL. GTFO of here with that nonsense. Lose two games in what 34? and now we're terrible? You're pathetic.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:18 PM ^
Agreed. Tough game. Tough schedule. Losing is always a possibility.. more winning coming soon
January 19th, 2019 at 2:18 PM ^
Wow the last 6 huh? Congrats to Nebraska on beating Michigan for the second time ever and the first time ever in Crisler
January 19th, 2019 at 2:20 PM ^
Nice take. You're completely wrong so congrats.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:11 PM ^
For all of you taking points away because I questioned the coaching during the game, as you can see I'm not here for points. However, the point is there is a reason why teams have timeouts and sometimes you take one to settle your team down when they are playing sloppy and undisciplined. Even Simpson missed some easy lay ups for Teske which hurt us which is out of the norm
The fact of the matter is that the team needed a heavier hand from the coach this game to keep them focused. It was obvious they weren't themselves due to the pressure they were putting on themselves and potentially being number one if they came away with the win.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:15 PM ^
Yeah, John Beilein's in game coaching was the problem! Unbelievable. Do you seriously believe the shit you type? We had 16 turnovers.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:13 PM ^
Anytime Michigan loses there are a bunch of over-reactionary pouters. It is easy to criticize from a phone, anonymous and with nothing but fandom. But the constant and instant vitriol towards players, as if they aren’t the ones who actually played and have a say going forward in how they respon. The flippant arrogance of “I knew they were gonna lose because Iggy and Matthews suck” posts are hysterical (double entendre intended).
January 19th, 2019 at 2:15 PM ^
Had 6 days off and come out with that performance is what is so sad. A chance to be the #1 team in the nation, and that effort was what we put out there. Iggy couldn’t beat his grandma off the dribble, can’t shoot a lick either. Matthews is already a black hole enough, can’t have two of them on the floor. Livers deserves more of a look.
January 19th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^
Basketball is about momentum, six days off between games is not a good thing. Remember how lethargic the team looked after those long breaks on Holiday Break? Well, that showed up again today and the team payed for it today.
January 19th, 2019 at 3:44 PM ^
Exactly. This team does not seem to do well after long layoffs. When it was dominating in the early season, we had 3 or 4 days between games. The long layoffs result in poor shooting games and turnover filled performances. We just looked tentative out there.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:15 PM ^
A flop should be a foul.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:19 PM ^
Agreed...should be a tech and the ball
January 19th, 2019 at 2:25 PM ^
Bill Laimbeer disagrees!
January 19th, 2019 at 2:26 PM ^
TOTALLY agree. Wisconsin schools at the foot of Coach K, the zen master of flopping.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:17 PM ^
You watch, Happ will score 7 points and suck balls when MSU visits them.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:21 PM ^
Happ wasn't even that good today? He had 20 on 20 shots. Teske stuffed him a few times. He's the Wisconsin equivalent of a modern NBA star. Putting up big numbers is a lot less impressive when it takes you 50% usage to do so. We lost because the offense was terrible and turned it over and we gave up several untimely threes
January 19th, 2019 at 2:27 PM ^
Because MSU will beat his ass and not get called for a foul.
January 19th, 2019 at 3:03 PM ^
This is 100% correct
January 19th, 2019 at 2:18 PM ^
Iggy by far was the problem. Kid was talking mad shit and got fucking wrecked. 0 points. That’s an embarrassment
January 19th, 2019 at 3:38 PM ^
Iggy was not good today, but far from "the problem". Matthews, Iggy on drives looked tentative and all of our outside shooters were pump faking instead of going up confidently. It was a weird day, but there was plenty of poor performances to go around. Not sure that Iggy needed to talk trash about Duke, but that's a freshman.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:19 PM ^
The worst part about the game was our shooters looked scared. We hit less than a third of our 3s. Matthews didn’t wanna shoot, iggy literally got shut out, livers and brooks pump faking wide open; we were afraid to lose, not hungry to win. The season can now go one of two ways: we will fold under a lack of confidence, or the pressure of being undefeated will be lifted and we’ll win the big ten. We’ll see.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:23 PM ^
Wisconsin will get run out of the gym when they come to Crisler. They’re not good this year. It’s sad we lost in this manner
January 19th, 2019 at 2:25 PM ^
I thought the same thing. We are going to destroy them at home. Our shooters will be comfortable, happ will be more uncomfortable, and we will splash 9-10 threes in their face.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:59 PM ^
Unless the officiating is same as today
January 19th, 2019 at 4:40 PM ^
I’m not going to read 620 comments for this, but there is no foul called “intentional” right? Just flagrant 1 or 2?
January 19th, 2019 at 2:31 PM ^
I thought Wiscy was trash too. Turns out they’re a top 15 KenPom team and is in the top 5 in NCAA in Quadrant 1 wins.
So, maybe we should slow our roll
January 19th, 2019 at 2:39 PM ^
I think Wisconsin is good. They do have an all-American in Happ. He’s an absolute tank. However, I think we’re just so much better than we showed today, and I think home court advantage will be big. I think we’re gonna beat them by double digits at home.
January 19th, 2019 at 3:14 PM ^
Wisconsin has just lost 4 of 5 including 1 to Western Kentucky. They played well today, but they are slumping.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:21 PM ^
January 19th, 2019 at 2:35 PM ^
Nah, Happ was just ok. Teske played him pretty well. 20 points on 20 shots is not impressive
January 19th, 2019 at 3:29 PM ^
Nearly a triple double and had 26 points, but yeah terrible game by happ - what a bum!
January 19th, 2019 at 3:42 PM ^
Points alone isn't a measure of good offense. It took 22 shots and 4 fta to get to 26. That's not super efficient. He had 31 points on 17 attempts against Purdue and 34 on 21 attempts against Marquette (both losses, fwiw, but much more efficient). Last year he dropped 29 on us but still lost by double digits at home. Happ is a good player, but the truth of the matter is that with his old-school style of basketball, his scoring has very little to do with whether Wisconsin wins or not. Teams only get in trouble when they double on him and he can kick out to three point shooters. 7 assists seems to indicate he did that more than I realized today, which probably made the difference today
January 19th, 2019 at 5:03 PM ^
I'd say anyone that actually watched would say he played a hell of a game, especially down the stretch.
January 19th, 2019 at 3:57 PM ^
Also if Happ "almost" had a triple double today (three assists short) then so did X. Double digit points, rebounds, and one assist less than Happ
January 19th, 2019 at 2:24 PM ^
Seriously you guys are exposing yourselves as bandwagon college basketball fans.
The 2013 team and 2018 team all lost against shitty teams and looked awful on some days. The fab five didnt even win the conference.
Duke a virtually pro team was very close to dropping 2 in a row.
Its college bball, is this team flawed? Yes? Is there a perfect team in the nation? No.
Beilein will be Beilein and he will coach these guys up.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:27 PM ^
Duke had two starters out against Syracuse. They aren’t playing with the best PG in America today. Duke isn’t even comparable.
January 19th, 2019 at 2:33 PM ^
Lmao Syracuse just lost by 20 vs Georgia Tech and Duke still had 2 top 5 draft picks on the floor and the number 3 PG in country.
How much college basketball have you watched recently?
Newsflash Big Ten road games are hard. Or did you think Michigan was going undefeated?
January 19th, 2019 at 2:34 PM ^
So instead of having the number 1, 2, 5, 15, and 33 ranked freshmen, they only had the number 1, 5, and 33rd available? Cry me a fucking river. Every player on their team is ranked higher than every player on the opposition. It was a home game against a team that lost at home by 15 to Georgia Tech in the game prior.
January 19th, 2019 at 3:25 PM ^
Technically, Virgina is still perfect so yes there is a perfect team in nation right now... at least for the next few hours.
January 19th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^
And won in Wisconsin....
January 19th, 2019 at 3:46 PM ^
Nope! Bahamas!
January 19th, 2019 at 4:57 PM ^
You are correct
January 19th, 2019 at 2:30 PM ^
As bummed as I am they played awful and lost, I try to remember these are still just kids - a couple of years out of high school. I’m sure nobody feels worse than those who played particularly poor today. Teske was amazing. Everyone else just looked lost, lacking confidence & scared. Games like this are bound to happen. Forget about it and prepare for the next game.
One game at a time. We’re just getting into the toughest part of the season. Go Blue!
January 19th, 2019 at 2:31 PM ^
Better? Doubtful. MSU looked mediocre against NEB and I’m not sure any Sparties would start for us other than Winston. Maybe deeper - no clue who MSU’s 8-10 guys are and seems unlikely you do either.
Edit: totally botched this post, meant as a response to the nervous Nellie about two pages back.
January 19th, 2019 at 3:20 PM ^
Ward wouldn't start? I mean fuck sparty and all but pretty sure he is top ten in B10 scoring
January 19th, 2019 at 3:29 PM ^
I mean Ward is a great player but he is a very weird fit for a Michigan team. Like Happ would obviously start for Michigan too, but I wouldn't love the idea of a 5 who can't shoot at all
January 19th, 2019 at 3:32 PM ^
Teske has surprised me with his long range game this year - really like his game. I did see that ward leads the country in 3 pt % though...
January 20th, 2019 at 4:31 AM ^
MSU was down 2 starters. Big difference